Mercedes Diesel in CJ
#41
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Re: Mercedes Diesel in CJ
I get the impression Bill doesn't like diesels. <;^). But the
personal attacks on someone giving actual information aren't needed.
Lots of times you post things I do appreciate, Bill, but this isn't
one of them.
Thanks for posting data on what it would take to make such a
conversion Ted. Even if I never actually decide to do something like
that I appreciate being able to understand what it would take.
Someday I'll have to convert my 2004 TJ to something to keep driving
it and I suspect it won't be a gasoline engine when I do. Something
to look forward to in 20 years at 300,000 miles.
Doug
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40DCF3D4.396FDAA7@***.net>...
> Why did you even bring up a Corvair? It doesn't have an oil pan,
> and of course all pumps drive off the distributor shaft. Geez, to be
> this ignorant of engines you couldn't even live within the continent of
> the United States of America, do you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ted Azito wrote:
> >
> > The SB/BB Chev-and the Corvair-have a fully internal oil pump driven
> > by the distributor gear. This has good (reverse rotation on Chevs is
> > easier than most: Mercruiser and EAA types do it as do some circle
> > trackers) and bad (drop pan, ergo pull engine in many installations,to
> > fix oil pump) parts. The oil pump on the OM Benzes-off the top of my
> > head I don't recall where it's at, but I don't think it's below the
> > pan line. I'll get a manual and look.
> >
> > AFAIK the Mitses have a gerotor pump on the front accessory section.
> > It's not an issue, they make a cornucopia of pans. The Benz 5 was a
> > car only engine-no industrial use-so there's one factory pan, although
> > it is a beautiful casting.
personal attacks on someone giving actual information aren't needed.
Lots of times you post things I do appreciate, Bill, but this isn't
one of them.
Thanks for posting data on what it would take to make such a
conversion Ted. Even if I never actually decide to do something like
that I appreciate being able to understand what it would take.
Someday I'll have to convert my 2004 TJ to something to keep driving
it and I suspect it won't be a gasoline engine when I do. Something
to look forward to in 20 years at 300,000 miles.
Doug
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40DCF3D4.396FDAA7@***.net>...
> Why did you even bring up a Corvair? It doesn't have an oil pan,
> and of course all pumps drive off the distributor shaft. Geez, to be
> this ignorant of engines you couldn't even live within the continent of
> the United States of America, do you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ted Azito wrote:
> >
> > The SB/BB Chev-and the Corvair-have a fully internal oil pump driven
> > by the distributor gear. This has good (reverse rotation on Chevs is
> > easier than most: Mercruiser and EAA types do it as do some circle
> > trackers) and bad (drop pan, ergo pull engine in many installations,to
> > fix oil pump) parts. The oil pump on the OM Benzes-off the top of my
> > head I don't recall where it's at, but I don't think it's below the
> > pan line. I'll get a manual and look.
> >
> > AFAIK the Mitses have a gerotor pump on the front accessory section.
> > It's not an issue, they make a cornucopia of pans. The Benz 5 was a
> > car only engine-no industrial use-so there's one factory pan, although
> > it is a beautiful casting.
#42
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Re: Mercedes Diesel in CJ
> and of course all (oil?)pumps drive off the distributor shaft.
Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
are more.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
are more.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
#43
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Re: Mercedes Diesel in CJ
> and of course all (oil?)pumps drive off the distributor shaft.
Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
are more.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
are more.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
#44
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Re: Mercedes Diesel in CJ
> and of course all (oil?)pumps drive off the distributor shaft.
Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
are more.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
are more.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
#45
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Re: Mercedes Diesel in CJ
> and of course all (oil?)pumps drive off the distributor shaft.
Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
are more.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
are more.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
#46
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Re: Mercedes Diesel in CJ
Would you like to picture a couple of them? And of course injector
pumps have to be creative, usually driving off the front of the cam, or
just a belt. And we not talking about after market dry sumps as a
dragster would use.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
> American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
> Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
> are more.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
pumps have to be creative, usually driving off the front of the cam, or
just a belt. And we not talking about after market dry sumps as a
dragster would use.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
> American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
> Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
> are more.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
#47
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Re: Mercedes Diesel in CJ
Would you like to picture a couple of them? And of course injector
pumps have to be creative, usually driving off the front of the cam, or
just a belt. And we not talking about after market dry sumps as a
dragster would use.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
> American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
> Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
> are more.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
pumps have to be creative, usually driving off the front of the cam, or
just a belt. And we not talking about after market dry sumps as a
dragster would use.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
> American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
> Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
> are more.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
#48
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Re: Mercedes Diesel in CJ
Would you like to picture a couple of them? And of course injector
pumps have to be creative, usually driving off the front of the cam, or
just a belt. And we not talking about after market dry sumps as a
dragster would use.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
> American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
> Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
> are more.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
pumps have to be creative, usually driving off the front of the cam, or
just a belt. And we not talking about after market dry sumps as a
dragster would use.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
> American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
> Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
> are more.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
#49
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Posts: n/a
Re: Mercedes Diesel in CJ
Would you like to picture a couple of them? And of course injector
pumps have to be creative, usually driving off the front of the cam, or
just a belt. And we not talking about after market dry sumps as a
dragster would use.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
> American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
> Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
> are more.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
pumps have to be creative, usually driving off the front of the cam, or
just a belt. And we not talking about after market dry sumps as a
dragster would use.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Paul Calman wrote:
>
> Toyota 22R, All Subarus, All air-cooled porsche and VWs,many others.
> American? Stearns-Knight, Graham-Paige, early V-8 Cadillacs, Maxwell,
> Franklin, Stanley, Doble ( last 2 were steam with oil injector pumps), there
> are more.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
#50
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Re: Mercedes Diesel in CJ
Are you completely oblivious to what made Ted's statement ignorant?
I sincerely hope you put a diesel engine in your TJ, they deserve
each other.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
dsm wrote:
>
> I get the impression Bill doesn't like diesels. <;^). But the
> personal attacks on someone giving actual information aren't needed.
> Lots of times you post things I do appreciate, Bill, but this isn't
> one of them.
>
> Thanks for posting data on what it would take to make such a
> conversion Ted. Even if I never actually decide to do something like
> that I appreciate being able to understand what it would take.
>
> Someday I'll have to convert my 2004 TJ to something to keep driving
> it and I suspect it won't be a gasoline engine when I do. Something
> to look forward to in 20 years at 300,000 miles.
>
> Doug
I sincerely hope you put a diesel engine in your TJ, they deserve
each other.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
dsm wrote:
>
> I get the impression Bill doesn't like diesels. <;^). But the
> personal attacks on someone giving actual information aren't needed.
> Lots of times you post things I do appreciate, Bill, but this isn't
> one of them.
>
> Thanks for posting data on what it would take to make such a
> conversion Ted. Even if I never actually decide to do something like
> that I appreciate being able to understand what it would take.
>
> Someday I'll have to convert my 2004 TJ to something to keep driving
> it and I suspect it won't be a gasoline engine when I do. Something
> to look forward to in 20 years at 300,000 miles.
>
> Doug