Lee Ayrton

Didn't we do this subject, oh, a week or two ago?


On or about Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Mike Romain of romainm@sympatico.ca wrote:

> Are you saying they share a fluid system?
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Travis' Dana 20 bolts directly to the transmission, and the ones
> > I've unbolted it from do not use a seal on the trans' output, like this
> > Borg Warner T 90:
> > http://www.science.smith.edu/~ejense...213/trans8.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > What have you been into today Bill?
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>

--
"doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
coverage and maximum profit potential."

Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.

Mike Romain

Yes and as far as I have ever seen or as far as my Jeep book says, the
tranny and t-case are separate entities, they don't share anything.

Mike

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Didn't we do this subject, oh, a week or two ago?
>
> On or about Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Mike Romain of romainm@sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> > Are you saying they share a fluid system?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > > Travis' Dana 20 bolts directly to the transmission, and the ones
> > > I've unbolted it from do not use a seal on the trans' output, like this
> > > Borg Warner T 90:
> > > http://www.science.smith.edu/~ejense...213/trans8.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What have you been into today Bill?
> > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
>
> --
> "doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
> as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
> coverage and maximum profit potential."
>
> Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.

Mike Romain

Yes and as far as I have ever seen or as far as my Jeep book says, the
tranny and t-case are separate entities, they don't share anything.

Mike

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Didn't we do this subject, oh, a week or two ago?
>
> On or about Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Mike Romain of romainm@sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> > Are you saying they share a fluid system?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > > Travis' Dana 20 bolts directly to the transmission, and the ones
> > > I've unbolted it from do not use a seal on the trans' output, like this
> > > Borg Warner T 90:
> > > http://www.science.smith.edu/~ejense...213/trans8.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What have you been into today Bill?
> > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
>
> --
> "doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
> as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
> coverage and maximum profit potential."
>
> Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.

Mike Romain

Yes and as far as I have ever seen or as far as my Jeep book says, the
tranny and t-case are separate entities, they don't share anything.

Mike

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Didn't we do this subject, oh, a week or two ago?
>
> On or about Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Mike Romain of romainm@sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> > Are you saying they share a fluid system?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > > Travis' Dana 20 bolts directly to the transmission, and the ones
> > > I've unbolted it from do not use a seal on the trans' output, like this
> > > Borg Warner T 90:
> > > http://www.science.smith.edu/~ejense...213/trans8.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What have you been into today Bill?
> > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
>
> --
> "doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
> as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
> coverage and maximum profit potential."
>
> Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Mike,
That would be true on your Dana 300, because your transmission uses
an adapter between the two. But the Dana 20 bolts directly to the
transmission and will look like this Dana 18:
http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg and the T 90 I previously referred
you to, where we can see the open ball bearings and even the overflow
hole open to the transfer, and in a line with the fill plug:
http://www.science.smith.edu/~ejense...213/trans8.jpg
Remember I've serviced hundreds of the older Jeeps, and learned to just
break the seal of the fill plug to check that it has plenty of fluid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Yes and as far as I have ever seen or as far as my Jeep book says, the
> tranny and t-case are separate entities, they don't share anything.
>
> Mike

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Mike,
That would be true on your Dana 300, because your transmission uses
an adapter between the two. But the Dana 20 bolts directly to the
transmission and will look like this Dana 18:
http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg and the T 90 I previously referred
you to, where we can see the open ball bearings and even the overflow
hole open to the transfer, and in a line with the fill plug:
http://www.science.smith.edu/~ejense...213/trans8.jpg
Remember I've serviced hundreds of the older Jeeps, and learned to just
break the seal of the fill plug to check that it has plenty of fluid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Yes and as far as I have ever seen or as far as my Jeep book says, the
> tranny and t-case are separate entities, they don't share anything.
>
> Mike

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Mike,
That would be true on your Dana 300, because your transmission uses
an adapter between the two. But the Dana 20 bolts directly to the
transmission and will look like this Dana 18:
http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg and the T 90 I previously referred
you to, where we can see the open ball bearings and even the overflow
hole open to the transfer, and in a line with the fill plug:
http://www.science.smith.edu/~ejense...213/trans8.jpg
Remember I've serviced hundreds of the older Jeeps, and learned to just
break the seal of the fill plug to check that it has plenty of fluid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Yes and as far as I have ever seen or as far as my Jeep book says, the
> tranny and t-case are separate entities, they don't share anything.
>
> Mike

Casey Teague

Yep, I did the exact same thing. Didn't realize until after taking the
transfer case out twice that the shifter was hitting the tub. Oh well, I
reseal the tc while I had it out so it wasn't a total waste of time. I used
a friends plasma cutter and cut the shifter, bent it forward, then welded
the seam that I cut. It works perfectly now. At least you caught it before
you removed the tc. I felt pretty stupid for doing that.

Casey Teague
http://justjeeps.jeepz.com

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hi2fsvgq4108rc0dsons3rhn9ud9q18v50@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:25:29 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >Ug. I changed the front and rear diff fluid today and also the tranny
> >fluid and transfer case fluid. Figured it was a good time to go get
> >muddy. I locked my front hubs while still at home and then drove to
> >the trails a few miles away. As I entered them I figured I'd leave it
> >in 2WD until I needed 4WD. Well, I immediately got into the middle of
> >a pretty big puddle and got stuck. Like an *idiot* I hit 4-LOW while
> >the engine was still revving kinda high... It crunched but went into
> >4-LOW. I started trying to get out of the puddle but noticed neither
> >of my front tires were spinning. I double checked and both of my hubs
> >were locked and I was in 4-LOW, but no power to the front wheels. I
> >used my winch to get out and went straight home. Gonna let the mud
> >dry and let myself cool off before taking a look, but I'm afraid of
> >what I'll find. :-(
>
> Yay! Yes, I'm an idiot, but not for breaking the transfer case. I
> just put the Jeep up on jackstands and then put it into 4-LOW and very
> slowly, carefully let the clutch out. Got out and looked and only one
> back tire was turning. Looked at the front output shaft on the
> transfer case and it wasn't turning. Not good. So I thought about it
> and realized that I hadn't actually tested the 4WD stuff out since
> putting the lift on... So I removed the transfer case shifter boot
> and could see that there was still about an inch more of travel that
> the shifter could make as long as the boot wasn't in place. I shoved
> it back that extra inch and *clunk* it dropped all the way into 4-LOW
> and immediately the front driver's side tire started spinning (as soon
> as I let the clutch out, that is). So basically I need to do some
> work on the shifter for the transfer case to get it to where it can
> engage all of the gears. I can handle that. :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Casey Teague

Yep, I did the exact same thing. Didn't realize until after taking the
transfer case out twice that the shifter was hitting the tub. Oh well, I
reseal the tc while I had it out so it wasn't a total waste of time. I used
a friends plasma cutter and cut the shifter, bent it forward, then welded
the seam that I cut. It works perfectly now. At least you caught it before
you removed the tc. I felt pretty stupid for doing that.

Casey Teague
http://justjeeps.jeepz.com

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hi2fsvgq4108rc0dsons3rhn9ud9q18v50@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:25:29 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >Ug. I changed the front and rear diff fluid today and also the tranny
> >fluid and transfer case fluid. Figured it was a good time to go get
> >muddy. I locked my front hubs while still at home and then drove to
> >the trails a few miles away. As I entered them I figured I'd leave it
> >in 2WD until I needed 4WD. Well, I immediately got into the middle of
> >a pretty big puddle and got stuck. Like an *idiot* I hit 4-LOW while
> >the engine was still revving kinda high... It crunched but went into
> >4-LOW. I started trying to get out of the puddle but noticed neither
> >of my front tires were spinning. I double checked and both of my hubs
> >were locked and I was in 4-LOW, but no power to the front wheels. I
> >used my winch to get out and went straight home. Gonna let the mud
> >dry and let myself cool off before taking a look, but I'm afraid of
> >what I'll find. :-(
>
> Yay! Yes, I'm an idiot, but not for breaking the transfer case. I
> just put the Jeep up on jackstands and then put it into 4-LOW and very
> slowly, carefully let the clutch out. Got out and looked and only one
> back tire was turning. Looked at the front output shaft on the
> transfer case and it wasn't turning. Not good. So I thought about it
> and realized that I hadn't actually tested the 4WD stuff out since
> putting the lift on... So I removed the transfer case shifter boot
> and could see that there was still about an inch more of travel that
> the shifter could make as long as the boot wasn't in place. I shoved
> it back that extra inch and *clunk* it dropped all the way into 4-LOW
> and immediately the front driver's side tire started spinning (as soon
> as I let the clutch out, that is). So basically I need to do some
> work on the shifter for the transfer case to get it to where it can
> engage all of the gears. I can handle that. :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Casey Teague

Yep, I did the exact same thing. Didn't realize until after taking the
transfer case out twice that the shifter was hitting the tub. Oh well, I
reseal the tc while I had it out so it wasn't a total waste of time. I used
a friends plasma cutter and cut the shifter, bent it forward, then welded
the seam that I cut. It works perfectly now. At least you caught it before
you removed the tc. I felt pretty stupid for doing that.

Casey Teague
http://justjeeps.jeepz.com

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hi2fsvgq4108rc0dsons3rhn9ud9q18v50@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:25:29 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >Ug. I changed the front and rear diff fluid today and also the tranny
> >fluid and transfer case fluid. Figured it was a good time to go get
> >muddy. I locked my front hubs while still at home and then drove to
> >the trails a few miles away. As I entered them I figured I'd leave it
> >in 2WD until I needed 4WD. Well, I immediately got into the middle of
> >a pretty big puddle and got stuck. Like an *idiot* I hit 4-LOW while
> >the engine was still revving kinda high... It crunched but went into
> >4-LOW. I started trying to get out of the puddle but noticed neither
> >of my front tires were spinning. I double checked and both of my hubs
> >were locked and I was in 4-LOW, but no power to the front wheels. I
> >used my winch to get out and went straight home. Gonna let the mud
> >dry and let myself cool off before taking a look, but I'm afraid of
> >what I'll find. :-(
>
> Yay! Yes, I'm an idiot, but not for breaking the transfer case. I
> just put the Jeep up on jackstands and then put it into 4-LOW and very
> slowly, carefully let the clutch out. Got out and looked and only one
> back tire was turning. Looked at the front output shaft on the
> transfer case and it wasn't turning. Not good. So I thought about it
> and realized that I hadn't actually tested the 4WD stuff out since
> putting the lift on... So I removed the transfer case shifter boot
> and could see that there was still about an inch more of travel that
> the shifter could make as long as the boot wasn't in place. I shoved
> it back that extra inch and *clunk* it dropped all the way into 4-LOW
> and immediately the front driver's side tire started spinning (as soon
> as I let the clutch out, that is). So basically I need to do some
> work on the shifter for the transfer case to get it to where it can
> engage all of the gears. I can handle that. :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!