Did you poke around under where orifices out, I don't have any
experience with your XJ, but Fords clog deep in the adapter plate. Test
to see if it still runs without the orifices indicating it is. Because
that's the only place designed to get rid of the blow-by that's plowing
into your air cleaner box. If that doesn't work it's rebuilding time.
Valve seals are more like an umbrella to keep the splashing oil from
dribbling down the stem and causing a little smoke at start up time.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

sc00ter wrote:
>
> I like the convert it idea, problem the pic is not what I have. I am
> also seeming to have some difficulty with this because my Cherokee is a
> 93 and has the newer style ccv system. All of the orifices into the
> intake manifold are clean ( I took them out and cleaned them though
> there was no build up) as far a a leaking valve seal, what do I do
> about that. I am about to pull out what hair I have left. I don't want
> my Jeep to die!!!!! I replaced all the lines to and from the valve
> cover, I sealed it all up nice and good, I cleaned the TB real REAL
> good and I changed the plugs and even the oil I even used all MOPAR
> parts just as a precaution. I diid notice that my plug from the
> cylinder way in the back #6 I believe was really black and cruddy but I
> figured that was from the oil leaking down onto it from the valve cover
> but the others were relatively clean. Let me know and I will email a
> pic of the spark plug.
>
> Jeremy

 

Second that deep crud idea, Bill. Fiend had an 87 that would fill a
quart jar - he got PO'd and pulled the breather hose off the air box
and wired it into the jar when he couldn't find any other solution.
We took the valve cover off and removed the baffle plates under the
two hole in the cover. Had enough crud under there that it took a
chisel to get it all out. Cleaned that whole area with some old bore
brushes, replaced the baffles, sealed up the valve cover (any bets
that the OP didn't get the surfaces clean before he tried?) and his
problem pretty much disappeared. No way to get to the problem from
the outside, BTW.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 04:01:52 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

> Did you poke around under where orifices out, I don't have any
> experience with your XJ, but Fords clog deep in the adapter plate. Test
> to see if it still runs without the orifices indicating it is. Because
> that's the only place designed to get rid of the blow-by that's plowing
> into your air cleaner box. If that doesn't work it's rebuilding time.
> Valve seals are more like an umbrella to keep the splashing oil from
> dribbling down the stem and causing a little smoke at start up time.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> sc00ter wrote:
> >
> > I like the convert it idea, problem the pic is not what I have. I am
> > also seeming to have some difficulty with this because my Cherokee is a
> > 93 and has the newer style ccv system. All of the orifices into the
> > intake manifold are clean ( I took them out and cleaned them though
> > there was no build up) as far a a leaking valve seal, what do I do
> > about that. I am about to pull out what hair I have left. I don't want
> > my Jeep to die!!!!! I replaced all the lines to and from the valve
> > cover, I sealed it all up nice and good, I cleaned the TB real REAL
> > good and I changed the plugs and even the oil I even used all MOPAR
> > parts just as a precaution. I diid notice that my plug from the
> > cylinder way in the back #6 I believe was really black and cruddy but I
> > figured that was from the oil leaking down onto it from the valve cover
> > but the others were relatively clean. Let me know and I will email a
> > pic of the spark plug.
> >
> > Jeremy


--
Will Honea

 

Second that deep crud idea, Bill. Fiend had an 87 that would fill a
quart jar - he got PO'd and pulled the breather hose off the air box
and wired it into the jar when he couldn't find any other solution.
We took the valve cover off and removed the baffle plates under the
two hole in the cover. Had enough crud under there that it took a
chisel to get it all out. Cleaned that whole area with some old bore
brushes, replaced the baffles, sealed up the valve cover (any bets
that the OP didn't get the surfaces clean before he tried?) and his
problem pretty much disappeared. No way to get to the problem from
the outside, BTW.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 04:01:52 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

> Did you poke around under where orifices out, I don't have any
> experience with your XJ, but Fords clog deep in the adapter plate. Test
> to see if it still runs without the orifices indicating it is. Because
> that's the only place designed to get rid of the blow-by that's plowing
> into your air cleaner box. If that doesn't work it's rebuilding time.
> Valve seals are more like an umbrella to keep the splashing oil from
> dribbling down the stem and causing a little smoke at start up time.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> sc00ter wrote:
> >
> > I like the convert it idea, problem the pic is not what I have. I am
> > also seeming to have some difficulty with this because my Cherokee is a
> > 93 and has the newer style ccv system. All of the orifices into the
> > intake manifold are clean ( I took them out and cleaned them though
> > there was no build up) as far a a leaking valve seal, what do I do
> > about that. I am about to pull out what hair I have left. I don't want
> > my Jeep to die!!!!! I replaced all the lines to and from the valve
> > cover, I sealed it all up nice and good, I cleaned the TB real REAL
> > good and I changed the plugs and even the oil I even used all MOPAR
> > parts just as a precaution. I diid notice that my plug from the
> > cylinder way in the back #6 I believe was really black and cruddy but I
> > figured that was from the oil leaking down onto it from the valve cover
> > but the others were relatively clean. Let me know and I will email a
> > pic of the spark plug.
> >
> > Jeremy


--
Will Honea

 

Second that deep crud idea, Bill. Fiend had an 87 that would fill a
quart jar - he got PO'd and pulled the breather hose off the air box
and wired it into the jar when he couldn't find any other solution.
We took the valve cover off and removed the baffle plates under the
two hole in the cover. Had enough crud under there that it took a
chisel to get it all out. Cleaned that whole area with some old bore
brushes, replaced the baffles, sealed up the valve cover (any bets
that the OP didn't get the surfaces clean before he tried?) and his
problem pretty much disappeared. No way to get to the problem from
the outside, BTW.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 04:01:52 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

> Did you poke around under where orifices out, I don't have any
> experience with your XJ, but Fords clog deep in the adapter plate. Test
> to see if it still runs without the orifices indicating it is. Because
> that's the only place designed to get rid of the blow-by that's plowing
> into your air cleaner box. If that doesn't work it's rebuilding time.
> Valve seals are more like an umbrella to keep the splashing oil from
> dribbling down the stem and causing a little smoke at start up time.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> sc00ter wrote:
> >
> > I like the convert it idea, problem the pic is not what I have. I am
> > also seeming to have some difficulty with this because my Cherokee is a
> > 93 and has the newer style ccv system. All of the orifices into the
> > intake manifold are clean ( I took them out and cleaned them though
> > there was no build up) as far a a leaking valve seal, what do I do
> > about that. I am about to pull out what hair I have left. I don't want
> > my Jeep to die!!!!! I replaced all the lines to and from the valve
> > cover, I sealed it all up nice and good, I cleaned the TB real REAL
> > good and I changed the plugs and even the oil I even used all MOPAR
> > parts just as a precaution. I diid notice that my plug from the
> > cylinder way in the back #6 I believe was really black and cruddy but I
> > figured that was from the oil leaking down onto it from the valve cover
> > but the others were relatively clean. Let me know and I will email a
> > pic of the spark plug.
> >
> > Jeremy


--
Will Honea

 

I did do that, I took off the cover (valve) and took the baffles off,
cleaned them and resealed them and the valve cover is sealed now. I
guess I am not clear on the orifices, the tubes from my valve cover go
as follows, the front one goes to the air box and the rear one goes to
the intake manifold to a nipple that I cleaned out by removing it and I
could see straight into the manifold so that isnt clogged. I am not
getting any smoke at all in the exhaust. I am baffled.

Jeremy
skylog@msn.com

Will Honea wrote:
> Second that deep crud idea, Bill. Fiend had an 87 that would fill a
> quart jar - he got PO'd and pulled the breather hose off the air box
> and wired it into the jar when he couldn't find any other solution.
> We took the valve cover off and removed the baffle plates under the
> two hole in the cover. Had enough crud under there that it took a
> chisel to get it all out. Cleaned that whole area with some old bore
> brushes, replaced the baffles, sealed up the valve cover (any bets
> that the OP didn't get the surfaces clean before he tried?) and his
> problem pretty much disappeared. No way to get to the problem from
> the outside, BTW.
>
> On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 04:01:52 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Did you poke around under where orifices out, I don't have any
> > experience with your XJ, but Fords clog deep in the adapter plate. Test
> > to see if it still runs without the orifices indicating it is. Because
> > that's the only place designed to get rid of the blow-by that's plowing
> > into your air cleaner box. If that doesn't work it's rebuilding time.
> > Valve seals are more like an umbrella to keep the splashing oil from
> > dribbling down the stem and causing a little smoke at start up time.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > sc00ter wrote:
> > >
> > > I like the convert it idea, problem the pic is not what I have. I am
> > > also seeming to have some difficulty with this because my Cherokee isa
> > > 93 and has the newer style ccv system. All of the orifices into the
> > > intake manifold are clean ( I took them out and cleaned them though
> > > there was no build up) as far a a leaking valve seal, what do I do
> > > about that. I am about to pull out what hair I have left. I don't want
> > > my Jeep to die!!!!! I replaced all the lines to and from the valve
> > > cover, I sealed it all up nice and good, I cleaned the TB real REAL
> > > good and I changed the plugs and even the oil I even used all MOPAR
> > > parts just as a precaution. I diid notice that my plug from the
> > > cylinder way in the back #6 I believe was really black and cruddy butI
> > > figured that was from the oil leaking down onto it from the valve cover
> > > but the others were relatively clean. Let me know and I will email a
> > > pic of the spark plug.
> > >
> > > Jeremy
>
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

I did do that, I took off the cover (valve) and took the baffles off,
cleaned them and resealed them and the valve cover is sealed now. I
guess I am not clear on the orifices, the tubes from my valve cover go
as follows, the front one goes to the air box and the rear one goes to
the intake manifold to a nipple that I cleaned out by removing it and I
could see straight into the manifold so that isnt clogged. I am not
getting any smoke at all in the exhaust. I am baffled.

Jeremy
skylog@msn.com

Will Honea wrote:
> Second that deep crud idea, Bill. Fiend had an 87 that would fill a
> quart jar - he got PO'd and pulled the breather hose off the air box
> and wired it into the jar when he couldn't find any other solution.
> We took the valve cover off and removed the baffle plates under the
> two hole in the cover. Had enough crud under there that it took a
> chisel to get it all out. Cleaned that whole area with some old bore
> brushes, replaced the baffles, sealed up the valve cover (any bets
> that the OP didn't get the surfaces clean before he tried?) and his
> problem pretty much disappeared. No way to get to the problem from
> the outside, BTW.
>
> On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 04:01:52 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Did you poke around under where orifices out, I don't have any
> > experience with your XJ, but Fords clog deep in the adapter plate. Test
> > to see if it still runs without the orifices indicating it is. Because
> > that's the only place designed to get rid of the blow-by that's plowing
> > into your air cleaner box. If that doesn't work it's rebuilding time.
> > Valve seals are more like an umbrella to keep the splashing oil from
> > dribbling down the stem and causing a little smoke at start up time.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > sc00ter wrote:
> > >
> > > I like the convert it idea, problem the pic is not what I have. I am
> > > also seeming to have some difficulty with this because my Cherokee isa
> > > 93 and has the newer style ccv system. All of the orifices into the
> > > intake manifold are clean ( I took them out and cleaned them though
> > > there was no build up) as far a a leaking valve seal, what do I do
> > > about that. I am about to pull out what hair I have left. I don't want
> > > my Jeep to die!!!!! I replaced all the lines to and from the valve
> > > cover, I sealed it all up nice and good, I cleaned the TB real REAL
> > > good and I changed the plugs and even the oil I even used all MOPAR
> > > parts just as a precaution. I diid notice that my plug from the
> > > cylinder way in the back #6 I believe was really black and cruddy butI
> > > figured that was from the oil leaking down onto it from the valve cover
> > > but the others were relatively clean. Let me know and I will email a
> > > pic of the spark plug.
> > >
> > > Jeremy
>
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

I did do that, I took off the cover (valve) and took the baffles off,
cleaned them and resealed them and the valve cover is sealed now. I
guess I am not clear on the orifices, the tubes from my valve cover go
as follows, the front one goes to the air box and the rear one goes to
the intake manifold to a nipple that I cleaned out by removing it and I
could see straight into the manifold so that isnt clogged. I am not
getting any smoke at all in the exhaust. I am baffled.

Jeremy
skylog@msn.com

Will Honea wrote:
> Second that deep crud idea, Bill. Fiend had an 87 that would fill a
> quart jar - he got PO'd and pulled the breather hose off the air box
> and wired it into the jar when he couldn't find any other solution.
> We took the valve cover off and removed the baffle plates under the
> two hole in the cover. Had enough crud under there that it took a
> chisel to get it all out. Cleaned that whole area with some old bore
> brushes, replaced the baffles, sealed up the valve cover (any bets
> that the OP didn't get the surfaces clean before he tried?) and his
> problem pretty much disappeared. No way to get to the problem from
> the outside, BTW.
>
> On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 04:01:52 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Did you poke around under where orifices out, I don't have any
> > experience with your XJ, but Fords clog deep in the adapter plate. Test
> > to see if it still runs without the orifices indicating it is. Because
> > that's the only place designed to get rid of the blow-by that's plowing
> > into your air cleaner box. If that doesn't work it's rebuilding time.
> > Valve seals are more like an umbrella to keep the splashing oil from
> > dribbling down the stem and causing a little smoke at start up time.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > sc00ter wrote:
> > >
> > > I like the convert it idea, problem the pic is not what I have. I am
> > > also seeming to have some difficulty with this because my Cherokee isa
> > > 93 and has the newer style ccv system. All of the orifices into the
> > > intake manifold are clean ( I took them out and cleaned them though
> > > there was no build up) as far a a leaking valve seal, what do I do
> > > about that. I am about to pull out what hair I have left. I don't want
> > > my Jeep to die!!!!! I replaced all the lines to and from the valve
> > > cover, I sealed it all up nice and good, I cleaned the TB real REAL
> > > good and I changed the plugs and even the oil I even used all MOPAR
> > > parts just as a precaution. I diid notice that my plug from the
> > > cylinder way in the back #6 I believe was really black and cruddy butI
> > > figured that was from the oil leaking down onto it from the valve cover
> > > but the others were relatively clean. Let me know and I will email a
> > > pic of the spark plug.
> > >
> > > Jeremy
>
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

Then you have excessive blow-by. Take a compression test, if you
are over ten pounds of each other, then plan on rebuilding it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

sc00ter wrote:
>
> I did do that, I took off the cover (valve) and took the baffles off,
> cleaned them and resealed them and the valve cover is sealed now. I
> guess I am not clear on the orifices, the tubes from my valve cover go
> as follows, the front one goes to the air box and the rear one goes to
> the intake manifold to a nipple that I cleaned out by removing it and I
> could see straight into the manifold so that isnt clogged. I am not
> getting any smoke at all in the exhaust. I am baffled.
>
> Jeremy
> skylog@msn.com

 

Then you have excessive blow-by. Take a compression test, if you
are over ten pounds of each other, then plan on rebuilding it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

sc00ter wrote:
>
> I did do that, I took off the cover (valve) and took the baffles off,
> cleaned them and resealed them and the valve cover is sealed now. I
> guess I am not clear on the orifices, the tubes from my valve cover go
> as follows, the front one goes to the air box and the rear one goes to
> the intake manifold to a nipple that I cleaned out by removing it and I
> could see straight into the manifold so that isnt clogged. I am not
> getting any smoke at all in the exhaust. I am baffled.
>
> Jeremy
> skylog@msn.com

 

Then you have excessive blow-by. Take a compression test, if you
are over ten pounds of each other, then plan on rebuilding it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

sc00ter wrote:
>
> I did do that, I took off the cover (valve) and took the baffles off,
> cleaned them and resealed them and the valve cover is sealed now. I
> guess I am not clear on the orifices, the tubes from my valve cover go
> as follows, the front one goes to the air box and the rear one goes to
> the intake manifold to a nipple that I cleaned out by removing it and I
> could see straight into the manifold so that isnt clogged. I am not
> getting any smoke at all in the exhaust. I am baffled.
>
> Jeremy
> skylog@msn.com