Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
02-01-2006, 05:59 PM
#11
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Re: Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
sc00ter did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> and cross my fingers.
Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
yet to break one.
You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
cheap.
Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
tighten the bolts a bit more.
Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
--
DougW
> Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> and cross my fingers.
Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
yet to break one.
You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
cheap.
Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
tighten the bolts a bit more.
Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
--
DougW
02-01-2006, 05:59 PM
#12
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Re: Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
sc00ter did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> and cross my fingers.
Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
yet to break one.
You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
cheap.
Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
tighten the bolts a bit more.
Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
--
DougW
> Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> and cross my fingers.
Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
yet to break one.
You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
cheap.
Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
tighten the bolts a bit more.
Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
--
DougW
02-01-2006, 05:59 PM
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Re: Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
sc00ter did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> and cross my fingers.
Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
yet to break one.
You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
cheap.
Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
tighten the bolts a bit more.
Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
--
DougW
> Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> and cross my fingers.
Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
yet to break one.
You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
cheap.
Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
tighten the bolts a bit more.
Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
--
DougW
02-02-2006, 04:08 AM
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Re: Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:59:02 UTC "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address>
wrote:
> sc00ter did pass the time by typing:
> > Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> > the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> > cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> > probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> > and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> > cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> > and cross my fingers.
>
> Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
> take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
>
> This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
> to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
> yet to break one.
>
> You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
> passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
>
> I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
> either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
> cheap.
>
> Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
> Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
> that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
> around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
> tighten the bolts a bit more.
>
> Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
> paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
> bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
> been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
When I first got my MJ, I didn't think I would EVER get it to idle
right. After several attempts with the spray can, I pulled the TB off
and let it percolate for a couple of hours in a big untrasonic tank I
have here - filled the tank as appropriate with carb cleaner and STILL
had to manually ream out the idle bypass port! Even the old carbs
with the exhaust bypass loop (usually plugged solid) for heating
weren't that bad!
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> sc00ter did pass the time by typing:
> > Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> > the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> > cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> > probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> > and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> > cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> > and cross my fingers.
>
> Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
> take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
>
> This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
> to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
> yet to break one.
>
> You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
> passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
>
> I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
> either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
> cheap.
>
> Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
> Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
> that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
> around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
> tighten the bolts a bit more.
>
> Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
> paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
> bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
> been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
When I first got my MJ, I didn't think I would EVER get it to idle
right. After several attempts with the spray can, I pulled the TB off
and let it percolate for a couple of hours in a big untrasonic tank I
have here - filled the tank as appropriate with carb cleaner and STILL
had to manually ream out the idle bypass port! Even the old carbs
with the exhaust bypass loop (usually plugged solid) for heating
weren't that bad!
--
Will Honea
02-02-2006, 04:08 AM
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Re: Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:59:02 UTC "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address>
wrote:
> sc00ter did pass the time by typing:
> > Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> > the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> > cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> > probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> > and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> > cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> > and cross my fingers.
>
> Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
> take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
>
> This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
> to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
> yet to break one.
>
> You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
> passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
>
> I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
> either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
> cheap.
>
> Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
> Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
> that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
> around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
> tighten the bolts a bit more.
>
> Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
> paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
> bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
> been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
When I first got my MJ, I didn't think I would EVER get it to idle
right. After several attempts with the spray can, I pulled the TB off
and let it percolate for a couple of hours in a big untrasonic tank I
have here - filled the tank as appropriate with carb cleaner and STILL
had to manually ream out the idle bypass port! Even the old carbs
with the exhaust bypass loop (usually plugged solid) for heating
weren't that bad!
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> sc00ter did pass the time by typing:
> > Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> > the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> > cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> > probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> > and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> > cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> > and cross my fingers.
>
> Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
> take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
>
> This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
> to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
> yet to break one.
>
> You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
> passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
>
> I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
> either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
> cheap.
>
> Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
> Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
> that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
> around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
> tighten the bolts a bit more.
>
> Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
> paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
> bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
> been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
When I first got my MJ, I didn't think I would EVER get it to idle
right. After several attempts with the spray can, I pulled the TB off
and let it percolate for a couple of hours in a big untrasonic tank I
have here - filled the tank as appropriate with carb cleaner and STILL
had to manually ream out the idle bypass port! Even the old carbs
with the exhaust bypass loop (usually plugged solid) for heating
weren't that bad!
--
Will Honea
02-02-2006, 04:08 AM
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Re: Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:59:02 UTC "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address>
wrote:
> sc00ter did pass the time by typing:
> > Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> > the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> > cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> > probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> > and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> > cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> > and cross my fingers.
>
> Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
> take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
>
> This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
> to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
> yet to break one.
>
> You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
> passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
>
> I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
> either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
> cheap.
>
> Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
> Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
> that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
> around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
> tighten the bolts a bit more.
>
> Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
> paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
> bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
> been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
When I first got my MJ, I didn't think I would EVER get it to idle
right. After several attempts with the spray can, I pulled the TB off
and let it percolate for a couple of hours in a big untrasonic tank I
have here - filled the tank as appropriate with carb cleaner and STILL
had to manually ream out the idle bypass port! Even the old carbs
with the exhaust bypass loop (usually plugged solid) for heating
weren't that bad!
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> sc00ter did pass the time by typing:
> > Thanks foor the info, I have removed the valve cover and cleaned out
> > the snorkles and the such and according to the dealership and JEEP my
> > cherokee doesnt have a valve cover gasket so I used MOPAR RTV ,
> > probably the same as any other RTV, but I am going to replace the plugs
> > and change the oil today while I am waiting the 24 hours forthe rtv to
> > cure. I am then going to attempt to clean the throttle body really good
> > and cross my fingers.
>
> Easiest way to clean the TB is to first go get a new gasket then
> take the TB off, take the IAC mount off, leave the TPS sensor in place.
>
> This is not without some risk. Be careful with the snap connections
> to the throttle body. I've taken mine off serveral times and have
> yet to break one.
>
> You can then work at both sides of the butterfly and in the idle air
> passage with a toothbrush and solvent.
>
> I say to get a new gasket because 80% of the time the old one will
> either split or not seal properly when you put it back. And they are
> cheap.
>
> Remember the bolts/screws only go hand tight. 9 ft.lbs
> Your average person with a nutdriver can put out way more than
> that. It's easier to come back later and spray a bit of TB cleaner
> around the base. IF the engine stammers you have a leak and just
> tighten the bolts a bit more.
>
> Some folks will sit the throttle body down on top of some fine sand
> paper on the workbench and move it in a figure eight just to clean the
> bottom and see if there are any high spots. Usually if a gorrilla has
> been at work the ears are high. (area around the bolt holes)
When I first got my MJ, I didn't think I would EVER get it to idle
right. After several attempts with the spray can, I pulled the TB off
and let it percolate for a couple of hours in a big untrasonic tank I
have here - filled the tank as appropriate with carb cleaner and STILL
had to manually ream out the idle bypass port! Even the old carbs
with the exhaust bypass loop (usually plugged solid) for heating
weren't that bad!
--
Will Honea
02-04-2006, 05:06 PM
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Re: Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
ok, I resealed the valve cover after cleaning it out and resealing the
splash guards and it leaked like a sive, so I took it to the dealer and
they reseald the valve cover and its fine. I am still getting a TON of
oil into the aircleaner. what could the problem be I have cleaned the
TB and replaced vacuum lines and elbows and everything that was told to
me and i still have the prob.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JEremy
splash guards and it leaked like a sive, so I took it to the dealer and
they reseald the valve cover and its fine. I am still getting a TON of
oil into the aircleaner. what could the problem be I have cleaned the
TB and replaced vacuum lines and elbows and everything that was told to
me and i still have the prob.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JEremy
02-04-2006, 05:06 PM
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Re: Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
ok, I resealed the valve cover after cleaning it out and resealing the
splash guards and it leaked like a sive, so I took it to the dealer and
they reseald the valve cover and its fine. I am still getting a TON of
oil into the aircleaner. what could the problem be I have cleaned the
TB and replaced vacuum lines and elbows and everything that was told to
me and i still have the prob.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JEremy
splash guards and it leaked like a sive, so I took it to the dealer and
they reseald the valve cover and its fine. I am still getting a TON of
oil into the aircleaner. what could the problem be I have cleaned the
TB and replaced vacuum lines and elbows and everything that was told to
me and i still have the prob.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JEremy
02-04-2006, 05:06 PM
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Re: Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
ok, I resealed the valve cover after cleaning it out and resealing the
splash guards and it leaked like a sive, so I took it to the dealer and
they reseald the valve cover and its fine. I am still getting a TON of
oil into the aircleaner. what could the problem be I have cleaned the
TB and replaced vacuum lines and elbows and everything that was told to
me and i still have the prob.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JEremy
splash guards and it leaked like a sive, so I took it to the dealer and
they reseald the valve cover and its fine. I am still getting a TON of
oil into the aircleaner. what could the problem be I have cleaned the
TB and replaced vacuum lines and elbows and everything that was told to
me and i still have the prob.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JEremy
02-04-2006, 05:36 PM
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Re: Massive oil in air filter 93 cherokee
Take that Mickey Mouse orifice and solenoid valve out of the intake
manifold and covert it by putting an Positive Crankcase Ventilation
valve in the valve cover, like every other manufacturer uses:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/aircl.htm#pcv
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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sc00ter wrote:
>
> ok, I resealed the valve cover after cleaning it out and resealing the
> splash guards and it leaked like a sive, so I took it to the dealer and
> they reseald the valve cover and its fine. I am still getting a TON of
> oil into the aircleaner. what could the problem be I have cleaned the
> TB and replaced vacuum lines and elbows and everything that was told to
> me and i still have the prob.
>
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> JEremy
manifold and covert it by putting an Positive Crankcase Ventilation
valve in the valve cover, like every other manufacturer uses:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/aircl.htm#pcv
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
sc00ter wrote:
>
> ok, I resealed the valve cover after cleaning it out and resealing the
> splash guards and it leaked like a sive, so I took it to the dealer and
> they reseald the valve cover and its fine. I am still getting a TON of
> oil into the aircleaner. what could the problem be I have cleaned the
> TB and replaced vacuum lines and elbows and everything that was told to
> me and i still have the prob.
>
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> JEremy