Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
06-20-2006, 09:29 PM
#81
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Re: Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
Yep, your receiver plug prop resulted in the death of a lot of good boys.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Bill,
> You're not going to blame us that like put our hobby on our trailer
> hitch receiver: http://www.hitchcorner.com/hitch_covers/4prop.jpg for
> the butterfly effect, right?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> You had to open that can of worms.
>>
>> No one needs to rehash the Hamilton Standard problems.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4498967E.958F6341@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> You're not going to blame us that like put our hobby on our trailer
> hitch receiver: http://www.hitchcorner.com/hitch_covers/4prop.jpg for
> the butterfly effect, right?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> You had to open that can of worms.
>>
>> No one needs to rehash the Hamilton Standard problems.
06-20-2006, 09:29 PM
#82
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Re: Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
Yep, your receiver plug prop resulted in the death of a lot of good boys.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4498967E.958F6341@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> You're not going to blame us that like put our hobby on our trailer
> hitch receiver: http://www.hitchcorner.com/hitch_covers/4prop.jpg for
> the butterfly effect, right?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> You had to open that can of worms.
>>
>> No one needs to rehash the Hamilton Standard problems.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4498967E.958F6341@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> You're not going to blame us that like put our hobby on our trailer
> hitch receiver: http://www.hitchcorner.com/hitch_covers/4prop.jpg for
> the butterfly effect, right?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> You had to open that can of worms.
>>
>> No one needs to rehash the Hamilton Standard problems.
06-20-2006, 10:46 PM
#83
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Re: Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
06-20-2006, 10:46 PM
#84
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Re: Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
06-20-2006, 10:46 PM
#85
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Re: Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
06-20-2006, 10:53 PM
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Re: Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
06-20-2006, 10:53 PM
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Re: Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
06-20-2006, 10:53 PM
#88
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Re: Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
06-20-2006, 11:28 PM
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Re: Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
14.7 more or less, or 29.92 Hg or 1013 millibar at standard temperature
and mean sea level.
Could probably be gotten from one of those old center reading boost
gauges with a custom faceplate and calibration.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Normal atmospheric pressure at sea level is about fifteen pounds per
> square inch, which of course not a vacuum, that would be then read in
> inches of mercury. So, sane people would measure that fifteen pounds as
> just ZERO, and use the typical manifold gauge:
> http://www.----------.com/vacuumgauge.jpg KISS
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> Exactly what I DO NOT want. I want the gauge to read MANIFOLD
>>PRESSURE. We are at 29.92 inches of mercury at sea level on Planet
>>Earth. I want it calibrated in inches of mercury, NOT pounds per square
>>inch, atmospheres, or kg/cm2. And I want it to read ambient pressure
>>when the engine is off and lower running-on a naturally aspirated
>>engine it will never read higher.
06-20-2006, 11:28 PM
#90
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Re: Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
14.7 more or less, or 29.92 Hg or 1013 millibar at standard temperature
and mean sea level.
Could probably be gotten from one of those old center reading boost
gauges with a custom faceplate and calibration.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Normal atmospheric pressure at sea level is about fifteen pounds per
> square inch, which of course not a vacuum, that would be then read in
> inches of mercury. So, sane people would measure that fifteen pounds as
> just ZERO, and use the typical manifold gauge:
> http://www.----------.com/vacuumgauge.jpg KISS
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> Exactly what I DO NOT want. I want the gauge to read MANIFOLD
>>PRESSURE. We are at 29.92 inches of mercury at sea level on Planet
>>Earth. I want it calibrated in inches of mercury, NOT pounds per square
>>inch, atmospheres, or kg/cm2. And I want it to read ambient pressure
>>when the engine is off and lower running-on a naturally aspirated
>>engine it will never read higher.
