Manifold pressure off MAP sensor?
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Yep, your receiver plug prop resulted in the death of a lot of good boys.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Bill,
> You're not going to blame us that like put our hobby on our trailer
> hitch receiver: http://www.hitchcorner.com/hitch_covers/4prop.jpg for
> the butterfly effect, right?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> You had to open that can of worms.
>>
>> No one needs to rehash the Hamilton Standard problems.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Bill,
> You're not going to blame us that like put our hobby on our trailer
> hitch receiver: http://www.hitchcorner.com/hitch_covers/4prop.jpg for
> the butterfly effect, right?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> You had to open that can of worms.
>>
>> No one needs to rehash the Hamilton Standard problems.
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Yep, your receiver plug prop resulted in the death of a lot of good boys.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4498967E.958F6341@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> You're not going to blame us that like put our hobby on our trailer
> hitch receiver: http://www.hitchcorner.com/hitch_covers/4prop.jpg for
> the butterfly effect, right?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> You had to open that can of worms.
>>
>> No one needs to rehash the Hamilton Standard problems.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4498967E.958F6341@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> You're not going to blame us that like put our hobby on our trailer
> hitch receiver: http://www.hitchcorner.com/hitch_covers/4prop.jpg for
> the butterfly effect, right?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> You had to open that can of worms.
>>
>> No one needs to rehash the Hamilton Standard problems.
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Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
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Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
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Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>
>>
>>Ok... Man now 'that' would be some fun interpreting any useful info
>>from it. LOL!
>>
>>Thunderstorm on the way, time to put the roof up or... did I just blow
>>an intake gasket?
>
>
>
> The aircraft industry has used EXACTLY what I am talking about for 70
> years with perfect success. But I don't think $400 is a reasonable
> price.
>
Hang around the local hangars at midnight and take your chances no HS
folks are around.
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Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
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Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
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Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1150725650.132230.114400@i40g2000cwc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>><<snip>>
>>>
>>>>You would be better off posting in a weather newsgroup or a marine
>>>>group. You are looking for a weather instrument, not an automotive
>>>>instrument. Don't they call it a barometer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Barometers, altimiters, and pressure gauges of all sorts are related,
>>>but they aren't necessarily interchangeable. And NO, I do not want a
>>>narometer or an altimeter. I want an absolute pressure gauge calibrated
>>>in inches mercury for hooking to a spark ignition engine's intake
>>>manifold.
>>>
>>
>>If you know as much as you say you do, it should be easy to build it with
>>parts from Radio Shack.
>
>
> A. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and B, I want something that
> looks like it fits in an automotive panel, not a homemade looking
> thing.
>
Looks like the hot rodders that install absolute pressure gauges tend to
use aircraft surplus. You could always buy your own sensor and add a
suitable meter of your choosing for the output.
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14.7 more or less, or 29.92 Hg or 1013 millibar at standard temperature
and mean sea level.
Could probably be gotten from one of those old center reading boost
gauges with a custom faceplate and calibration.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Normal atmospheric pressure at sea level is about fifteen pounds per
> square inch, which of course not a vacuum, that would be then read in
> inches of mercury. So, sane people would measure that fifteen pounds as
> just ZERO, and use the typical manifold gauge:
> http://www.----------.com/vacuumgauge.jpg KISS
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> Exactly what I DO NOT want. I want the gauge to read MANIFOLD
>>PRESSURE. We are at 29.92 inches of mercury at sea level on Planet
>>Earth. I want it calibrated in inches of mercury, NOT pounds per square
>>inch, atmospheres, or kg/cm2. And I want it to read ambient pressure
>>when the engine is off and lower running-on a naturally aspirated
>>engine it will never read higher.
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14.7 more or less, or 29.92 Hg or 1013 millibar at standard temperature
and mean sea level.
Could probably be gotten from one of those old center reading boost
gauges with a custom faceplate and calibration.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Normal atmospheric pressure at sea level is about fifteen pounds per
> square inch, which of course not a vacuum, that would be then read in
> inches of mercury. So, sane people would measure that fifteen pounds as
> just ZERO, and use the typical manifold gauge:
> http://www.----------.com/vacuumgauge.jpg KISS
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> Exactly what I DO NOT want. I want the gauge to read MANIFOLD
>>PRESSURE. We are at 29.92 inches of mercury at sea level on Planet
>>Earth. I want it calibrated in inches of mercury, NOT pounds per square
>>inch, atmospheres, or kg/cm2. And I want it to read ambient pressure
>>when the engine is off and lower running-on a naturally aspirated
>>engine it will never read higher.


