Mike I'd guess it's the constant salt bath
we endure every winter. I'm sure salt water
gets into everything. Dang! you should see my
engine right now....disgusting...
Can't wait for spring (reliable above freezing temps)
so I can wash the poor thing inside and out.

Mike Romain wrote:

> I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
> them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
> Cherokee had 250K km on it.
>
> I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
> with no grease zerks.
>
> I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
> was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
> time...
>
> Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
> into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.
>
> Mike
>
> Old Crow wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
>>>and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
>>
>>Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
>>differs a bit.
>>We've had:
>>A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
>>A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
>>A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
>>and soon to aquire:
>>A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
>>All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
>>Not a zerk in the bunch.
>>A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
>>350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
>>u-joints...all 4 of them!
>>I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
>>not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
>>mud holes or puddles<g>.
>>--
>>Old Crow
>>'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
>>'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
>>ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
>>TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

Mike I'd guess it's the constant salt bath
we endure every winter. I'm sure salt water
gets into everything. Dang! you should see my
engine right now....disgusting...
Can't wait for spring (reliable above freezing temps)
so I can wash the poor thing inside and out.

Mike Romain wrote:

> I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
> them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
> Cherokee had 250K km on it.
>
> I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
> with no grease zerks.
>
> I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
> was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
> time...
>
> Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
> into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.
>
> Mike
>
> Old Crow wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
>>>and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
>>
>>Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
>>differs a bit.
>>We've had:
>>A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
>>A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
>>A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
>>and soon to aquire:
>>A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
>>All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
>>Not a zerk in the bunch.
>>A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
>>350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
>>u-joints...all 4 of them!
>>I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
>>not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
>>mud holes or puddles<g>.
>>--
>>Old Crow
>>'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
>>'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
>>ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
>>TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

Hmm, could be the salt dries out the seals...

Mike

FrankW wrote:
>
> Mike I'd guess it's the constant salt bath
> we endure every winter. I'm sure salt water
> gets into everything. Dang! you should see my
> engine right now....disgusting...
> Can't wait for spring (reliable above freezing temps)
> so I can wash the poor thing inside and out.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
> > them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
> > Cherokee had 250K km on it.
> >
> > I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
> > with no grease zerks.
> >
> > I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
> > was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
> > time...
> >
> > Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
> > into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Old Crow wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
> >>>and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
> >>
> >>Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
> >>differs a bit.
> >>We've had:
> >>A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
> >>A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
> >>A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
> >>and soon to aquire:
> >>A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
> >>All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
> >>Not a zerk in the bunch.
> >>A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
> >>350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
> >>u-joints...all 4 of them!
> >>I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
> >>not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
> >>mud holes or puddles<g>.
> >>--
> >>Old Crow
> >>'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> >>'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> >>ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> >>TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

Hmm, could be the salt dries out the seals...

Mike

FrankW wrote:
>
> Mike I'd guess it's the constant salt bath
> we endure every winter. I'm sure salt water
> gets into everything. Dang! you should see my
> engine right now....disgusting...
> Can't wait for spring (reliable above freezing temps)
> so I can wash the poor thing inside and out.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
> > them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
> > Cherokee had 250K km on it.
> >
> > I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
> > with no grease zerks.
> >
> > I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
> > was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
> > time...
> >
> > Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
> > into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Old Crow wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
> >>>and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
> >>
> >>Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
> >>differs a bit.
> >>We've had:
> >>A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
> >>A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
> >>A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
> >>and soon to aquire:
> >>A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
> >>All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
> >>Not a zerk in the bunch.
> >>A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
> >>350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
> >>u-joints...all 4 of them!
> >>I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
> >>not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
> >>mud holes or puddles<g>.
> >>--
> >>Old Crow
> >>'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> >>'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> >>ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> >>TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

Hmm, could be the salt dries out the seals...

Mike

FrankW wrote:
>
> Mike I'd guess it's the constant salt bath
> we endure every winter. I'm sure salt water
> gets into everything. Dang! you should see my
> engine right now....disgusting...
> Can't wait for spring (reliable above freezing temps)
> so I can wash the poor thing inside and out.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
> > them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
> > Cherokee had 250K km on it.
> >
> > I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
> > with no grease zerks.
> >
> > I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
> > was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
> > time...
> >
> > Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
> > into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Old Crow wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
> >>>and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
> >>
> >>Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
> >>differs a bit.
> >>We've had:
> >>A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
> >>A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
> >>A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
> >>and soon to aquire:
> >>A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
> >>All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
> >>Not a zerk in the bunch.
> >>A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
> >>350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
> >>u-joints...all 4 of them!
> >>I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
> >>not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
> >>mud holes or puddles<g>.
> >>--
> >>Old Crow
> >>'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> >>'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> >>ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> >>TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:32:49 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
>them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
>Cherokee had 250K km on it.

Odd. I'm not sure of the life any of my Jeeps led before I got them,
but I know for a fact that the S-10 was a farm truck from the time it
rolled off the showroom until I got it. It had a hydraulic hay fork
mounted in the bed when the guy traded it in at the same dealership he
bought it from. I can just picture that poor little truck with a 6'
round bale of hay hanging off the back end...it's a wonder the front
wheels weren't 3' in the air.


>
>I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
>with no grease zerks.

Believe me, I'm old enough that when I do have to replace a u-joint
I'll go for the one with the zerks.

>
>I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
>was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
>time...
>

Maybe the lift and big tires contribute to the problem? All my
vehicles have been more or less stock(maybe an increase of tire size,
but no lift).


>Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
>into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.
>

You'd just love this red clay ---- we've got down south<g>. I've got
a spice colored soft top, and it's a good thing, because the stuff
actually stains the fabric. Can't wait to get the ol' ladies new(to
her)YJ off in it...the top's gray<g>.



--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:32:49 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
>them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
>Cherokee had 250K km on it.

Odd. I'm not sure of the life any of my Jeeps led before I got them,
but I know for a fact that the S-10 was a farm truck from the time it
rolled off the showroom until I got it. It had a hydraulic hay fork
mounted in the bed when the guy traded it in at the same dealership he
bought it from. I can just picture that poor little truck with a 6'
round bale of hay hanging off the back end...it's a wonder the front
wheels weren't 3' in the air.


>
>I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
>with no grease zerks.

Believe me, I'm old enough that when I do have to replace a u-joint
I'll go for the one with the zerks.

>
>I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
>was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
>time...
>

Maybe the lift and big tires contribute to the problem? All my
vehicles have been more or less stock(maybe an increase of tire size,
but no lift).


>Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
>into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.
>

You'd just love this red clay ---- we've got down south<g>. I've got
a spice colored soft top, and it's a good thing, because the stuff
actually stains the fabric. Can't wait to get the ol' ladies new(to
her)YJ off in it...the top's gray<g>.



--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:32:49 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
>them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
>Cherokee had 250K km on it.

Odd. I'm not sure of the life any of my Jeeps led before I got them,
but I know for a fact that the S-10 was a farm truck from the time it
rolled off the showroom until I got it. It had a hydraulic hay fork
mounted in the bed when the guy traded it in at the same dealership he
bought it from. I can just picture that poor little truck with a 6'
round bale of hay hanging off the back end...it's a wonder the front
wheels weren't 3' in the air.


>
>I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
>with no grease zerks.

Believe me, I'm old enough that when I do have to replace a u-joint
I'll go for the one with the zerks.

>
>I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
>was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
>time...
>

Maybe the lift and big tires contribute to the problem? All my
vehicles have been more or less stock(maybe an increase of tire size,
but no lift).


>Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
>into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.
>

You'd just love this red clay ---- we've got down south<g>. I've got
a spice colored soft top, and it's a good thing, because the stuff
actually stains the fabric. Can't wait to get the ol' ladies new(to
her)YJ off in it...the top's gray<g>.



--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:06:13 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Hmm, could be the salt dries out the seals...
>

There's a thought. The stuff they use around here is more of a
salt/sand mixture.
I still see a lot more rust out here than when I lived in SoCal or
Arizona, but not near as much as on vehicles I've seen from Illinois
or places further north.

--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:06:13 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Hmm, could be the salt dries out the seals...
>

There's a thought. The stuff they use around here is more of a
salt/sand mixture.
I still see a lot more rust out here than when I lived in SoCal or
Arizona, but not near as much as on vehicles I've seen from Illinois
or places further north.

--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51