John Red-Horse wrote:
>
> In article <40351000.7F7648E7@sympatico.ca>, romainm@sympatico.ca wrote:
> >Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
> >and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
> >
> >They decided they wanted money for new ones instead.
> >
> >Same deal for a high water vent on the tranny. They figure you don't
> >need one and would rather spend money for a new tranny if you have to
> >cross a creek.
> >
>
> Yikes! Well, to say the least, I'm dumbfounded.
>
> The only plus is that I've learned that I'm not losing my mind...
>
> thanks,
> john

Nope, you are still sane.. ;-)

When it comes replacement time, grease fitting ones are available and I
highly recommend them.

I tried the 'heavy duty' non grease nipple ones and had to fix something
else 8 months later so had a chance to inspect them and the grease had
already gone that sick purple milkshake color and consistency.

I pulled them all and bought cheapies. Got my money back as a store
coupon for the extra $78.00 on them because they had a 'lifetime'
warranty.

I also pulled the stupid button vent out from the top side of my shift
tower on the tranny and shoved a chunk of steel gas line in with JB Weld
on it to make a nipple for a high water vent. I then ran the vent up by
the t-case one near the battery.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

John Red-Horse wrote:
>
> In article <40351000.7F7648E7@sympatico.ca>, romainm@sympatico.ca wrote:
> >Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
> >and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
> >
> >They decided they wanted money for new ones instead.
> >
> >Same deal for a high water vent on the tranny. They figure you don't
> >need one and would rather spend money for a new tranny if you have to
> >cross a creek.
> >
>
> Yikes! Well, to say the least, I'm dumbfounded.
>
> The only plus is that I've learned that I'm not losing my mind...
>
> thanks,
> john

Nope, you are still sane.. ;-)

When it comes replacement time, grease fitting ones are available and I
highly recommend them.

I tried the 'heavy duty' non grease nipple ones and had to fix something
else 8 months later so had a chance to inspect them and the grease had
already gone that sick purple milkshake color and consistency.

I pulled them all and bought cheapies. Got my money back as a store
coupon for the extra $78.00 on them because they had a 'lifetime'
warranty.

I also pulled the stupid button vent out from the top side of my shift
tower on the tranny and shoved a chunk of steel gas line in with JB Weld
on it to make a nipple for a high water vent. I then ran the vent up by
the t-case one near the battery.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

John Red-Horse wrote:
>
> In article <40351000.7F7648E7@sympatico.ca>, romainm@sympatico.ca wrote:
> >Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
> >and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
> >
> >They decided they wanted money for new ones instead.
> >
> >Same deal for a high water vent on the tranny. They figure you don't
> >need one and would rather spend money for a new tranny if you have to
> >cross a creek.
> >
>
> Yikes! Well, to say the least, I'm dumbfounded.
>
> The only plus is that I've learned that I'm not losing my mind...
>
> thanks,
> john

Nope, you are still sane.. ;-)

When it comes replacement time, grease fitting ones are available and I
highly recommend them.

I tried the 'heavy duty' non grease nipple ones and had to fix something
else 8 months later so had a chance to inspect them and the grease had
already gone that sick purple milkshake color and consistency.

I pulled them all and bought cheapies. Got my money back as a store
coupon for the extra $78.00 on them because they had a 'lifetime'
warranty.

I also pulled the stupid button vent out from the top side of my shift
tower on the tranny and shoved a chunk of steel gas line in with JB Weld
on it to make a nipple for a high water vent. I then ran the vent up by
the t-case one near the battery.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
>and dirt out of your u-joints etc.

Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
differs a bit.
We've had:
A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
and soon to aquire:
A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
Not a zerk in the bunch.
A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
u-joints...all 4 of them!
I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
mud holes or puddles<g>.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
>and dirt out of your u-joints etc.

Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
differs a bit.
We've had:
A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
and soon to aquire:
A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
Not a zerk in the bunch.
A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
u-joints...all 4 of them!
I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
mud holes or puddles<g>.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
>and dirt out of your u-joints etc.

Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
differs a bit.
We've had:
A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
and soon to aquire:
A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
Not a zerk in the bunch.
A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
u-joints...all 4 of them!
I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
mud holes or puddles<g>.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
Cherokee had 250K km on it.

I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
with no grease zerks.

I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
time...

Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.

Mike

Old Crow wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
> >and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
>
> Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
> differs a bit.
> We've had:
> A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
> A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
> A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
> and soon to aquire:
> A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
> All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
> Not a zerk in the bunch.
> A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
> 350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
> u-joints...all 4 of them!
> I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
> not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
> mud holes or puddles<g>.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
Cherokee had 250K km on it.

I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
with no grease zerks.

I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
time...

Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.

Mike

Old Crow wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
> >and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
>
> Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
> differs a bit.
> We've had:
> A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
> A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
> A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
> and soon to aquire:
> A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
> All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
> Not a zerk in the bunch.
> A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
> 350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
> u-joints...all 4 of them!
> I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
> not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
> mud holes or puddles<g>.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
Cherokee had 250K km on it.

I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
with no grease zerks.

I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
time...

Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.

Mike

Old Crow wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
> >and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
>
> Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
> differs a bit.
> We've had:
> A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
> A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
> A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
> and soon to aquire:
> A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
> All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
> Not a zerk in the bunch.
> A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
> 350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
> u-joints...all 4 of them!
> I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
> not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
> mud holes or puddles<g>.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

 

Mike I'd guess it's the constant salt bath
we endure every winter. I'm sure salt water
gets into everything. Dang! you should see my
engine right now....disgusting...
Can't wait for spring (reliable above freezing temps)
so I can wash the poor thing inside and out.

Mike Romain wrote:

> I had to replace every one in both of my Jeeps shortly after buying
> them. They were all worn out. My CJ7 had 135K miles on it and our
> Cherokee had 250K km on it.
>
> I made an error and went with the 'heavy duty' lifetime warranty ones
> with no grease zerks.
>
> I have had to replace all of them again in the last 3 years and man it
> was a real **** off when the front axle ones needed changing a second
> time...
>
> Maybe it's the organic 'mud' we wheel in? This crap doesn't just get
> into stuff, it actually burns and turns into charcoal.
>
> Mike
>
> Old Crow wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:35:28 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jeep in it's ultimate wisdumb decided you didn't need to pump the water
>>>and dirt out of your u-joints etc.
>>
>>Well, Mike. I'm about to purchase our 4th Jeep and my expeerience
>>differs a bit.
>>We've had:
>>A '94 Cherokee 2wd, sold w/265,000 miles on the clock
>>A '93 Cherokee currently w/171,000 miles
>>A '95 Wrangler currently w/170,000 miles
>>and soon to aquire:
>>A '94 Wrangler currently w/168,000 miles on it.
>>All of these vehicles either still have the OEM, sealed u-joints.
>>Not a zerk in the bunch.
>>A year ago(yesterday, in fact)I wrecked an '84 S-10 4x4 with over
>>350,000 miles on it. It also still had the factory sealed
>>u-joints...all 4 of them!
>>I believe they are making them better than they used to, because I'm
>>not particularly soft on any of my vehicles , nor do I steer around
>>mud holes or puddles<g>.
>>--
>>Old Crow
>>'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
>>'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
>>ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
>>TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51