LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
Whatever, just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top
fuel car in the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Bill can be incredibly difficult to communicate with when you are
> saying something that does not agree with what he thinks and he will
> drive you nuts if you do not really, really know your stuff. I concede
> that in general he knows more about the details of drag racing than I
> do, because I have little interest in drag racing, it's just not my
> sport. I'm sure it's a fine sport just like curling, jai alai, or
> whatever. I just don't really care about those sports, or spectator
> sports in general.
>
> What I have figured out is that the current TF or Funny Cars are now
> faster than the jets, but the jets had them beat until relatively
> recent times, and that all the trhust based cars-jets and rockets-are
> slower off the line and build their speed down the track. But that's
> apples vs. oranges because you are comparing a bizarre specialized
> propulsion system unique to fuel drag racing to a surplus engine sold
> for scrap price that is 50+ years old. Any jet engine made by
> Westinghouse is every bit of fifty years old, they quit making jet
> engines after the Korean War. Now if the Navy released Ottofuel II
> torpedo engines surplus and they started appearing drag cars maybe the
> solid block Hemis would be obsoleted overnight! In principle jet or
> rocket cars could beat even the current wheel driven cars with enough
> thrust to weight ratios, but not in 50 feet. Turboshaft engine
> dragsters, like the one Don Garlits built for exhibition, which use
> wheel driven power might be another matter too. Like the jets they are
> also apparently outside the rules.
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?
fuel car in the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Bill can be incredibly difficult to communicate with when you are
> saying something that does not agree with what he thinks and he will
> drive you nuts if you do not really, really know your stuff. I concede
> that in general he knows more about the details of drag racing than I
> do, because I have little interest in drag racing, it's just not my
> sport. I'm sure it's a fine sport just like curling, jai alai, or
> whatever. I just don't really care about those sports, or spectator
> sports in general.
>
> What I have figured out is that the current TF or Funny Cars are now
> faster than the jets, but the jets had them beat until relatively
> recent times, and that all the trhust based cars-jets and rockets-are
> slower off the line and build their speed down the track. But that's
> apples vs. oranges because you are comparing a bizarre specialized
> propulsion system unique to fuel drag racing to a surplus engine sold
> for scrap price that is 50+ years old. Any jet engine made by
> Westinghouse is every bit of fifty years old, they quit making jet
> engines after the Korean War. Now if the Navy released Ottofuel II
> torpedo engines surplus and they started appearing drag cars maybe the
> solid block Hemis would be obsoleted overnight! In principle jet or
> rocket cars could beat even the current wheel driven cars with enough
> thrust to weight ratios, but not in 50 feet. Turboshaft engine
> dragsters, like the one Don Garlits built for exhibition, which use
> wheel driven power might be another matter too. Like the jets they are
> also apparently outside the rules.
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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c wrote:
>
> I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> happens after that. ;)
>
> Chris
the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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c wrote:
>
> I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> happens after that. ;)
>
> Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> happens after that. ;)
>
> Chris
the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> happens after that. ;)
>
> Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> happens after that. ;)
>
> Chris
the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> happens after that. ;)
>
> Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> happens after that. ;)
>
> Chris
the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> happens after that. ;)
>
> Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
HAHAHA Bill, I was saying that the TF cars are faster!!!! I think you need
to read a little better! FFS!
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
> the quarter mile. Period!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> > happens after that. ;)
> >
> > Chris
to read a little better! FFS!
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42E05AEE.32C8466B@***.net...
> Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
> the quarter mile. Period!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> > happens after that. ;)
> >
> > Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
HAHAHA Bill, I was saying that the TF cars are faster!!!! I think you need
to read a little better! FFS!
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42E05AEE.32C8466B@***.net...
> Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
> the quarter mile. Period!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> > happens after that. ;)
> >
> > Chris
to read a little better! FFS!
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42E05AEE.32C8466B@***.net...
> Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
> the quarter mile. Period!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> > happens after that. ;)
> >
> > Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
HAHAHA Bill, I was saying that the TF cars are faster!!!! I think you need
to read a little better! FFS!
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42E05AEE.32C8466B@***.net...
> Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
> the quarter mile. Period!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> > happens after that. ;)
> >
> > Chris
to read a little better! FFS!
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42E05AEE.32C8466B@***.net...
> Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
> the quarter mile. Period!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> > happens after that. ;)
> >
> > Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
HAHAHA Bill, I was saying that the TF cars are faster!!!! I think you need
to read a little better! FFS!
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42E05AEE.32C8466B@***.net...
> Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
> the quarter mile. Period!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> > happens after that. ;)
> >
> > Chris
to read a little better! FFS!
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42E05AEE.32C8466B@***.net...
> Just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top fuel car in
> the quarter mile. Period!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
> > happens after that. ;)
> >
> > Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
Me thinks Sammy's life was highly exaggerated. The 3.54 "pass" was
supposed to be at: http://www.santapod.co.uk/ Like where is this track
record???????? Jets don't instantly accelerate, not even in your dreams.
Watch the military's best.
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c wrote:
>
> I need to correct myself here:
>
> <snip>
>
> Anyway, my point here is that the rocket cars
> > had got so fast, and I believe I remember hearing about a run that was
> over
> > 400MPH and in the very low 4 second range, but that I am not sure of.
>
> To quote this site:
> http://www.eurodragster.com/news/sammy_miller_tribute/
>
> Sammy's career was one of superlatives. He raced Funny Cars of the Fuel
> variety before switching to rockets in 1976. His Spirit of '76 was the first
> Rocket Funny Car and it very quickly smashed track records across the USA.
> Sammy's next rocket FC was the first Vanishing Point, a Vega-bodied car in
> which he recorded the first ever three-second pass in Florida in 1979, and
> in which he first broke the 300 mph barrier in Europe, at Santa Pod in July
> of the same year. A number of Vanishing Point FCs, the Oxygen Rocket
> Dragster, and a Jet Dragster followed, all of which still hold ET and speed
> records. He also set a world ice speed record when he put skis on the Oxygen
> dragster and recorded 247 mph at Lake George. Sammy also arranged the first
> ever rocket races, which were against Al Eierdam and which were also
> contested at Santa Pod.
>
> In 1984 Sammy recorded a pass of 3.58 at Santa Pod Raceway which still
> stands as the absolute ET record anywhere on the planet.
>
> Chris
supposed to be at: http://www.santapod.co.uk/ Like where is this track
record???????? Jets don't instantly accelerate, not even in your dreams.
Watch the military's best.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> I need to correct myself here:
>
> <snip>
>
> Anyway, my point here is that the rocket cars
> > had got so fast, and I believe I remember hearing about a run that was
> over
> > 400MPH and in the very low 4 second range, but that I am not sure of.
>
> To quote this site:
> http://www.eurodragster.com/news/sammy_miller_tribute/
>
> Sammy's career was one of superlatives. He raced Funny Cars of the Fuel
> variety before switching to rockets in 1976. His Spirit of '76 was the first
> Rocket Funny Car and it very quickly smashed track records across the USA.
> Sammy's next rocket FC was the first Vanishing Point, a Vega-bodied car in
> which he recorded the first ever three-second pass in Florida in 1979, and
> in which he first broke the 300 mph barrier in Europe, at Santa Pod in July
> of the same year. A number of Vanishing Point FCs, the Oxygen Rocket
> Dragster, and a Jet Dragster followed, all of which still hold ET and speed
> records. He also set a world ice speed record when he put skis on the Oxygen
> dragster and recorded 247 mph at Lake George. Sammy also arranged the first
> ever rocket races, which were against Al Eierdam and which were also
> contested at Santa Pod.
>
> In 1984 Sammy recorded a pass of 3.58 at Santa Pod Raceway which still
> stands as the absolute ET record anywhere on the planet.
>
> Chris