Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
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Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling properties
accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if in
the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same time
as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able to
all get along without killing each other..
--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that I
> >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it would
> >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a bonus.
> >
> >Lisa
>
> Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes guts.
>
> You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> nauseum.
>
> Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
discarded
> to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
cease
> to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
SUVs.
>
> The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
burn
> it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
to
> kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
steering
> wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
alternative
> but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of kids
> because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
you
> will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide into
> your victims' car and taking them out as well.
>
> There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you could
> have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge you
> with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute some
> of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
up?
>
> One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When they
> are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they are
> MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All things
> considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they had
> any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> and go to prison penniless.
>
> Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes back
> in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> triple safe.
>
accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if in
the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same time
as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able to
all get along without killing each other..
--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that I
> >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it would
> >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a bonus.
> >
> >Lisa
>
> Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes guts.
>
> You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> nauseum.
>
> Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
discarded
> to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
cease
> to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
SUVs.
>
> The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
burn
> it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
to
> kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
steering
> wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
alternative
> but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of kids
> because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
you
> will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide into
> your victims' car and taking them out as well.
>
> There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you could
> have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge you
> with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute some
> of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
up?
>
> One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When they
> are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they are
> MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All things
> considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they had
> any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> and go to prison penniless.
>
> Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes back
> in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> triple safe.
>
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Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling properties
accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if in
the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same time
as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able to
all get along without killing each other..
--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that I
> >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it would
> >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a bonus.
> >
> >Lisa
>
> Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes guts.
>
> You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> nauseum.
>
> Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
discarded
> to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
cease
> to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
SUVs.
>
> The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
burn
> it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
to
> kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
steering
> wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
alternative
> but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of kids
> because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
you
> will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide into
> your victims' car and taking them out as well.
>
> There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you could
> have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge you
> with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute some
> of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
up?
>
> One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When they
> are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they are
> MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All things
> considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they had
> any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> and go to prison penniless.
>
> Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes back
> in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> triple safe.
>
accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if in
the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same time
as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able to
all get along without killing each other..
--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that I
> >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it would
> >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a bonus.
> >
> >Lisa
>
> Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes guts.
>
> You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> nauseum.
>
> Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
discarded
> to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
cease
> to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
SUVs.
>
> The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
burn
> it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
to
> kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
steering
> wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
alternative
> but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of kids
> because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
you
> will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide into
> your victims' car and taking them out as well.
>
> There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you could
> have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge you
> with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute some
> of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
up?
>
> One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When they
> are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they are
> MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All things
> considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they had
> any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> and go to prison penniless.
>
> Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes back
> in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> triple safe.
>
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Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling properties
accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if in
the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same time
as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able to
all get along without killing each other..
--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that I
> >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it would
> >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a bonus.
> >
> >Lisa
>
> Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes guts.
>
> You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> nauseum.
>
> Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
discarded
> to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
cease
> to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
SUVs.
>
> The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
burn
> it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
to
> kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
steering
> wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
alternative
> but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of kids
> because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
you
> will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide into
> your victims' car and taking them out as well.
>
> There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you could
> have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge you
> with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute some
> of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
up?
>
> One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When they
> are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they are
> MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All things
> considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they had
> any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> and go to prison penniless.
>
> Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes back
> in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> triple safe.
>
accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if in
the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same time
as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able to
all get along without killing each other..
--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that I
> >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it would
> >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a bonus.
> >
> >Lisa
>
> Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes guts.
>
> You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> nauseum.
>
> Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
discarded
> to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
cease
> to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
SUVs.
>
> The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
burn
> it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
to
> kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
steering
> wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
alternative
> but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of kids
> because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
you
> will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide into
> your victims' car and taking them out as well.
>
> There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you could
> have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge you
> with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute some
> of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
up?
>
> One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When they
> are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they are
> MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All things
> considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they had
> any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> and go to prison penniless.
>
> Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes back
> in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> triple safe.
>
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Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
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> the same thing ad nauseam ad infinitum not "to the point of " ad nauseam, ad
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Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
> Same damn thing happens with tractor trailers. The drivers can't
> control the things so they just barrell right on thru any problem and
> don't care who they kill.
You ever drive a tractor trailer?? You ever see how many stupid drivers
there are out there???
I was riding in a buddy's semi last week on a run... We were aproaching
a split in the interstate. 2 lanes go straight, 2 lanes exit to the right.
We were in the right hand lane for the straight pair. When we get to the
split a person in a car that was in the far right lane of the right split
realized that they were going the wrong way. They slammed on their brakes
and swerved sharply over into our lane.
When you're driving a 80,000 truck that's doing 60MPH and a car pulls in
front of you doing 20 you do not have many choices. There's no way you can
stop quick.... If you swerve sharply, you can jacknife the trailer or worse
yet roll the thing on it's side both of which would cause a major accident
and block the road for hours.
Fortunatly, in this case, there was no one on our left and the guy driving
was able to gently swerve around the offending car.....
It's not that semi drivers do not care... All that I've met are
courtous and professional drivers. The bigger issue is that people driving
smaller vehicles do not know or understand that a tractor trailer does not
react or handle like their car.
Mike
> control the things so they just barrell right on thru any problem and
> don't care who they kill.
You ever drive a tractor trailer?? You ever see how many stupid drivers
there are out there???
I was riding in a buddy's semi last week on a run... We were aproaching
a split in the interstate. 2 lanes go straight, 2 lanes exit to the right.
We were in the right hand lane for the straight pair. When we get to the
split a person in a car that was in the far right lane of the right split
realized that they were going the wrong way. They slammed on their brakes
and swerved sharply over into our lane.
When you're driving a 80,000 truck that's doing 60MPH and a car pulls in
front of you doing 20 you do not have many choices. There's no way you can
stop quick.... If you swerve sharply, you can jacknife the trailer or worse
yet roll the thing on it's side both of which would cause a major accident
and block the road for hours.
Fortunatly, in this case, there was no one on our left and the guy driving
was able to gently swerve around the offending car.....
It's not that semi drivers do not care... All that I've met are
courtous and professional drivers. The bigger issue is that people driving
smaller vehicles do not know or understand that a tractor trailer does not
react or handle like their car.
Mike
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Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
> Same damn thing happens with tractor trailers. The drivers can't
> control the things so they just barrell right on thru any problem and
> don't care who they kill.
You ever drive a tractor trailer?? You ever see how many stupid drivers
there are out there???
I was riding in a buddy's semi last week on a run... We were aproaching
a split in the interstate. 2 lanes go straight, 2 lanes exit to the right.
We were in the right hand lane for the straight pair. When we get to the
split a person in a car that was in the far right lane of the right split
realized that they were going the wrong way. They slammed on their brakes
and swerved sharply over into our lane.
When you're driving a 80,000 truck that's doing 60MPH and a car pulls in
front of you doing 20 you do not have many choices. There's no way you can
stop quick.... If you swerve sharply, you can jacknife the trailer or worse
yet roll the thing on it's side both of which would cause a major accident
and block the road for hours.
Fortunatly, in this case, there was no one on our left and the guy driving
was able to gently swerve around the offending car.....
It's not that semi drivers do not care... All that I've met are
courtous and professional drivers. The bigger issue is that people driving
smaller vehicles do not know or understand that a tractor trailer does not
react or handle like their car.
Mike
> control the things so they just barrell right on thru any problem and
> don't care who they kill.
You ever drive a tractor trailer?? You ever see how many stupid drivers
there are out there???
I was riding in a buddy's semi last week on a run... We were aproaching
a split in the interstate. 2 lanes go straight, 2 lanes exit to the right.
We were in the right hand lane for the straight pair. When we get to the
split a person in a car that was in the far right lane of the right split
realized that they were going the wrong way. They slammed on their brakes
and swerved sharply over into our lane.
When you're driving a 80,000 truck that's doing 60MPH and a car pulls in
front of you doing 20 you do not have many choices. There's no way you can
stop quick.... If you swerve sharply, you can jacknife the trailer or worse
yet roll the thing on it's side both of which would cause a major accident
and block the road for hours.
Fortunatly, in this case, there was no one on our left and the guy driving
was able to gently swerve around the offending car.....
It's not that semi drivers do not care... All that I've met are
courtous and professional drivers. The bigger issue is that people driving
smaller vehicles do not know or understand that a tractor trailer does not
react or handle like their car.
Mike
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Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
> Same damn thing happens with tractor trailers. The drivers can't
> control the things so they just barrell right on thru any problem and
> don't care who they kill.
You ever drive a tractor trailer?? You ever see how many stupid drivers
there are out there???
I was riding in a buddy's semi last week on a run... We were aproaching
a split in the interstate. 2 lanes go straight, 2 lanes exit to the right.
We were in the right hand lane for the straight pair. When we get to the
split a person in a car that was in the far right lane of the right split
realized that they were going the wrong way. They slammed on their brakes
and swerved sharply over into our lane.
When you're driving a 80,000 truck that's doing 60MPH and a car pulls in
front of you doing 20 you do not have many choices. There's no way you can
stop quick.... If you swerve sharply, you can jacknife the trailer or worse
yet roll the thing on it's side both of which would cause a major accident
and block the road for hours.
Fortunatly, in this case, there was no one on our left and the guy driving
was able to gently swerve around the offending car.....
It's not that semi drivers do not care... All that I've met are
courtous and professional drivers. The bigger issue is that people driving
smaller vehicles do not know or understand that a tractor trailer does not
react or handle like their car.
Mike
> control the things so they just barrell right on thru any problem and
> don't care who they kill.
You ever drive a tractor trailer?? You ever see how many stupid drivers
there are out there???
I was riding in a buddy's semi last week on a run... We were aproaching
a split in the interstate. 2 lanes go straight, 2 lanes exit to the right.
We were in the right hand lane for the straight pair. When we get to the
split a person in a car that was in the far right lane of the right split
realized that they were going the wrong way. They slammed on their brakes
and swerved sharply over into our lane.
When you're driving a 80,000 truck that's doing 60MPH and a car pulls in
front of you doing 20 you do not have many choices. There's no way you can
stop quick.... If you swerve sharply, you can jacknife the trailer or worse
yet roll the thing on it's side both of which would cause a major accident
and block the road for hours.
Fortunatly, in this case, there was no one on our left and the guy driving
was able to gently swerve around the offending car.....
It's not that semi drivers do not care... All that I've met are
courtous and professional drivers. The bigger issue is that people driving
smaller vehicles do not know or understand that a tractor trailer does not
react or handle like their car.
Mike
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Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>