Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
 

eddie wilson did pass the time by typing:

> How about if everyone hangs up the damn cell phone, stops playing with
> the radio, and slows down to the posted speed limit? Keep a 4 second
> gap between vehicles and pay attention to what you're doing, and all
> cars and trucks are safe. OK, all except the ones with morons,
> drunks, and selfish bastards at the wheel. By morons, I mean the ones
> who literally don't know how to handle their vehicle properly, and
> according to the laws of physics.

My pet peeve, driving without all glass clear of snow/ice.
Runner up is eating, drinking, using the phone, putting on makeup, etc.

Vehicles don't kill people. Stupid people driving vehicles
kill people. An idiot behind the wheel of any vehicle is one
idiot too many.

--
DougW

Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
 

eddie wilson did pass the time by typing:

> How about if everyone hangs up the damn cell phone, stops playing with
> the radio, and slows down to the posted speed limit? Keep a 4 second
> gap between vehicles and pay attention to what you're doing, and all
> cars and trucks are safe. OK, all except the ones with morons,
> drunks, and selfish bastards at the wheel. By morons, I mean the ones
> who literally don't know how to handle their vehicle properly, and
> according to the laws of physics.

My pet peeve, driving without all glass clear of snow/ice.
Runner up is eating, drinking, using the phone, putting on makeup, etc.

Vehicles don't kill people. Stupid people driving vehicles
kill people. An idiot behind the wheel of any vehicle is one
idiot too many.

--
DougW

Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
 

eddie wilson did pass the time by typing:

> How about if everyone hangs up the damn cell phone, stops playing with
> the radio, and slows down to the posted speed limit? Keep a 4 second
> gap between vehicles and pay attention to what you're doing, and all
> cars and trucks are safe. OK, all except the ones with morons,
> drunks, and selfish bastards at the wheel. By morons, I mean the ones
> who literally don't know how to handle their vehicle properly, and
> according to the laws of physics.

My pet peeve, driving without all glass clear of snow/ice.
Runner up is eating, drinking, using the phone, putting on makeup, etc.

Vehicles don't kill people. Stupid people driving vehicles
kill people. An idiot behind the wheel of any vehicle is one
idiot too many.

--
DougW

Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
 

I would like to see your evidence that the amount of fuel in the tank has
anything to do with how tipsy a vehicle is.

"eddie wilson" <rquigney85@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:3473f01b.0311011103.45f70f47@posting.google.c om...
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:<5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com>. ..
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
>
> How about if everyone hangs up the damn cell phone, stops playing with
> the radio, and slows down to the posted speed limit? Keep a 4 second
> gap between vehicles and pay attention to what you're doing, and all
> cars and trucks are safe. OK, all except the ones with morons,
> drunks, and selfish bastards at the wheel. By morons, I mean the ones
> who literally don't know how to handle their vehicle properly, and
> according to the laws of physics.

Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
 

I would like to see your evidence that the amount of fuel in the tank has
anything to do with how tipsy a vehicle is.

"eddie wilson" <rquigney85@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:3473f01b.0311011103.45f70f47@posting.google.c om...
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:<5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com>. ..
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
>
> How about if everyone hangs up the damn cell phone, stops playing with
> the radio, and slows down to the posted speed limit? Keep a 4 second
> gap between vehicles and pay attention to what you're doing, and all
> cars and trucks are safe. OK, all except the ones with morons,
> drunks, and selfish bastards at the wheel. By morons, I mean the ones
> who literally don't know how to handle their vehicle properly, and
> according to the laws of physics.

Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
 

I would like to see your evidence that the amount of fuel in the tank has
anything to do with how tipsy a vehicle is.

"eddie wilson" <rquigney85@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:3473f01b.0311011103.45f70f47@posting.google.c om...
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:<5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com>. ..
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
>
> How about if everyone hangs up the damn cell phone, stops playing with
> the radio, and slows down to the posted speed limit? Keep a 4 second
> gap between vehicles and pay attention to what you're doing, and all
> cars and trucks are safe. OK, all except the ones with morons,
> drunks, and selfish bastards at the wheel. By morons, I mean the ones
> who literally don't know how to handle their vehicle properly, and
> according to the laws of physics.

Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
 

> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
>> One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
>> already know how tipsy SUVs are.

If your SUV is "tipsy", you must be feeding it booze. Switch to gas.

>> But its worse than you think. When they
>> are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they are
>> MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All things
>> considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
>> CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
>> launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they had
>> any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
>> depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
>> Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
>> and go to prison penniless.

The proper target of this suit is the Environmental Protection Agency, whose
CAFE rules forced people into SUVs by taking station wagons off the market.
I'd be all for the suit if the EPA administrators have to pay for it out of
their own pocket, but they'd probably just rob taxpayers some more instead.

eddie wilson wrote:
> How about if everyone hangs up the damn cell phone, stops playing with
> the radio,

OK with me.

> and slows down to the posted speed limit? Keep a 4 second
> gap between vehicles

Both of those actions mean you're asking to be run off the road.

> and pay attention to what you're doing,

If you pay attention to what you're doing, you'd never slow to the speed
limit and you'd certainly never keep a huge gap in front of yourself,
causing people to cut in one after the other until you're rightly treated
by other drivers as a public nuisance for blocking the road.

> and all
> cars and trucks are safe. OK, all except the ones with morons,
> drunks, and selfish bastards at the wheel. By morons, I mean the ones
> who literally don't know how to handle their vehicle properly, and
> according to the laws of physics.

Anyone who would follow your advice is a moron.

Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
 

> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
>> One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
>> already know how tipsy SUVs are.

If your SUV is "tipsy", you must be feeding it booze. Switch to gas.

>> But its worse than you think. When they
>> are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they are
>> MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All things
>> considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
>> CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
>> launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they had
>> any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
>> depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
>> Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
>> and go to prison penniless.

The proper target of this suit is the Environmental Protection Agency, whose
CAFE rules forced people into SUVs by taking station wagons off the market.
I'd be all for the suit if the EPA administrators have to pay for it out of
their own pocket, but they'd probably just rob taxpayers some more instead.

eddie wilson wrote:
> How about if everyone hangs up the damn cell phone, stops playing with
> the radio,

OK with me.

> and slows down to the posted speed limit? Keep a 4 second
> gap between vehicles

Both of those actions mean you're asking to be run off the road.

> and pay attention to what you're doing,

If you pay attention to what you're doing, you'd never slow to the speed
limit and you'd certainly never keep a huge gap in front of yourself,
causing people to cut in one after the other until you're rightly treated
by other drivers as a public nuisance for blocking the road.

> and all
> cars and trucks are safe. OK, all except the ones with morons,
> drunks, and selfish bastards at the wheel. By morons, I mean the ones
> who literally don't know how to handle their vehicle properly, and
> according to the laws of physics.

Anyone who would follow your advice is a moron.

Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
 

> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
>> One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
>> already know how tipsy SUVs are.

If your SUV is "tipsy", you must be feeding it booze. Switch to gas.

>> But its worse than you think. When they
>> are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they are
>> MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All things
>> considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
>> CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
>> launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they had
>> any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
>> depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
>> Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
>> and go to prison penniless.

The proper target of this suit is the Environmental Protection Agency, whose
CAFE rules forced people into SUVs by taking station wagons off the market.
I'd be all for the suit if the EPA administrators have to pay for it out of
their own pocket, but they'd probably just rob taxpayers some more instead.

eddie wilson wrote:
> How about if everyone hangs up the damn cell phone, stops playing with
> the radio,

OK with me.

> and slows down to the posted speed limit? Keep a 4 second
> gap between vehicles

Both of those actions mean you're asking to be run off the road.

> and pay attention to what you're doing,

If you pay attention to what you're doing, you'd never slow to the speed
limit and you'd certainly never keep a huge gap in front of yourself,
causing people to cut in one after the other until you're rightly treated
by other drivers as a public nuisance for blocking the road.

> and all
> cars and trucks are safe. OK, all except the ones with morons,
> drunks, and selfish bastards at the wheel. By morons, I mean the ones
> who literally don't know how to handle their vehicle properly, and
> according to the laws of physics.

Anyone who would follow your advice is a moron.

Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
 

How about everyone stop posting this -------- in the Jeep forum and take
your anti-SUV PC opinions back to the Radical Greens & Democrat
Hand-Wringers Wine & Cheese Party forum, huh?

Oh, and by the way, Jeeps aren't SUVs, and SUVs aren't Jeeps.


"eddie wilson" <rquigney85@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:3473f01b.0311011103.45f70f47@posting.google.c om...
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:<5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com>. ..
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
>
> How about if everyone hangs up the damn cell phone, stops playing with
> the radio, and slows down to the posted speed limit? Keep a 4 second
> gap between vehicles and pay attention to what you're doing, and all
> cars and trucks are safe. OK, all except the ones with morons,
> drunks, and selfish bastards at the wheel. By morons, I mean the ones
> who literally don't know how to handle their vehicle properly, and
> according to the laws of physics.