Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

You don't work at Peerless. They take all four wheels off, in the parking
lot, and bring them inside to change the tires. It's the cheapest gas
station in town, but I prefer Exxon with their safe work environment and
clean rest rooms. Maybe they have a tanker go astray now and then...

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> When I am working on something, I block tires and use the jack, a jack
> stand or three and just for good measure I always lay the tire under the
> frame of the vehicle so if it does come down, it is stopping at the
> rim/tire width before it hits ground.
>
> I also use the 2x4 lots to ------ out the jack's pressure. Old
> vehicles, especially ones in the rust belt get soft or crystallized
> metal that will collapse under the weight of a jack, even at the
> specific jacking points.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I thought I'd throw this out too. I don't know how many times I've seen
> > vehicles sitting in the local Peerless Tire lot with a jack under the
> > pumpkin and two jack stands under the other end (Or maybe that was a
jack
> > under the other pumpkin?) waiting for four new tires...
> >
> > Earle
> >
> >
> > "clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
> > news:qlgKh.3354$Qw.854@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> Didn't see it mentioned (probably 'cause it's obvious) but I thought
I'd
> >> toss it out...
> >> A small square of ¾" plywood or short piece of 2x4 between the cup on
> >> the jack and jack point on the vehicle helps ------ the load and gives
> >> the pointy metal bits (like spring shekel bolts, etc.) a better bite.
> >> & metal on wood doesn't slide nearly as easy as metal on metal.
> >
> >

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

You don't work at Peerless. They take all four wheels off, in the parking
lot, and bring them inside to change the tires. It's the cheapest gas
station in town, but I prefer Exxon with their safe work environment and
clean rest rooms. Maybe they have a tanker go astray now and then...

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45f99b1a$0$2635$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> When I am working on something, I block tires and use the jack, a jack
> stand or three and just for good measure I always lay the tire under the
> frame of the vehicle so if it does come down, it is stopping at the
> rim/tire width before it hits ground.
>
> I also use the 2x4 lots to ------ out the jack's pressure. Old
> vehicles, especially ones in the rust belt get soft or crystallized
> metal that will collapse under the weight of a jack, even at the
> specific jacking points.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I thought I'd throw this out too. I don't know how many times I've seen
> > vehicles sitting in the local Peerless Tire lot with a jack under the
> > pumpkin and two jack stands under the other end (Or maybe that was a
jack
> > under the other pumpkin?) waiting for four new tires...
> >
> > Earle
> >
> >
> > "clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
> > news:qlgKh.3354$Qw.854@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> Didn't see it mentioned (probably 'cause it's obvious) but I thought
I'd
> >> toss it out...
> >> A small square of ¾" plywood or short piece of 2x4 between the cup on
> >> the jack and jack point on the vehicle helps ------ the load and gives
> >> the pointy metal bits (like spring shekel bolts, etc.) a better bite.
> >> & metal on wood doesn't slide nearly as easy as metal on metal.
> >
> >

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

You don't work at Peerless. They take all four wheels off, in the parking
lot, and bring them inside to change the tires. It's the cheapest gas
station in town, but I prefer Exxon with their safe work environment and
clean rest rooms. Maybe they have a tanker go astray now and then...

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45f99b1a$0$2635$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> When I am working on something, I block tires and use the jack, a jack
> stand or three and just for good measure I always lay the tire under the
> frame of the vehicle so if it does come down, it is stopping at the
> rim/tire width before it hits ground.
>
> I also use the 2x4 lots to ------ out the jack's pressure. Old
> vehicles, especially ones in the rust belt get soft or crystallized
> metal that will collapse under the weight of a jack, even at the
> specific jacking points.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I thought I'd throw this out too. I don't know how many times I've seen
> > vehicles sitting in the local Peerless Tire lot with a jack under the
> > pumpkin and two jack stands under the other end (Or maybe that was a
jack
> > under the other pumpkin?) waiting for four new tires...
> >
> > Earle
> >
> >
> > "clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
> > news:qlgKh.3354$Qw.854@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> Didn't see it mentioned (probably 'cause it's obvious) but I thought
I'd
> >> toss it out...
> >> A small square of ¾" plywood or short piece of 2x4 between the cup on
> >> the jack and jack point on the vehicle helps ------ the load and gives
> >> the pointy metal bits (like spring shekel bolts, etc.) a better bite.
> >> & metal on wood doesn't slide nearly as easy as metal on metal.
> >
> >

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> twaldron wrote:
> > L. Ron Waddle wrote:
> >> twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You seem to be missing the fact that the new axle tubes on some Jeeps
> >>>> will bend if you lift from the pumpkin. We are not pulling your leg
> >>>> on this... They made some D44's out of press fit aluminum. Jeep
> >>>> recommends using the axle tubes for it's stock floor jack.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not missing it. I hear ya. I'm saying I've not seen any problem
> >>> because of it, so I'm going to continue to do it if I have the need.
> >>> That aluminum axle you are talking about was put on some Grands, not
> >>> my XJ nor TJ.
> >>
> >>
> >> Indeed. I've picked up my TJ many a time by the pumpkin with no
> >> problem.
> >> It's a heavy cast iron, not aluminum. Given the beating that TJ
> >> pumpkins get on the trail, it *better* be heavy duty!
> >>
> >> Floor jacks don't work too well on the frame of lifted Jeeps :-).
> >>
> >> _Elron
> >
> >
> > Yes, it's quite possible that anyone having this problem (if anyone
> > actually is) it's occuring after beating the tar out of it on the
> > Rubicon and Moab rocks, bringing it home, lifting it, and "OMG!, look
> > what the JACK did!" ;)
> >
> > tw
> >
>
> Can you just imagine how the poor suckers that have the Jeeps with that
> rear end and do that feel?
>
> They are totally different stresses. The wheels punching the axle tubes
> up to the springs isn't even close to the vehicle weight being suspended
> on the pumpkin for stress on the inner tubes.

You never high-centered your rear axle on a rock?

Saludos,

Earle

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> twaldron wrote:
> > L. Ron Waddle wrote:
> >> twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You seem to be missing the fact that the new axle tubes on some Jeeps
> >>>> will bend if you lift from the pumpkin. We are not pulling your leg
> >>>> on this... They made some D44's out of press fit aluminum. Jeep
> >>>> recommends using the axle tubes for it's stock floor jack.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not missing it. I hear ya. I'm saying I've not seen any problem
> >>> because of it, so I'm going to continue to do it if I have the need.
> >>> That aluminum axle you are talking about was put on some Grands, not
> >>> my XJ nor TJ.
> >>
> >>
> >> Indeed. I've picked up my TJ many a time by the pumpkin with no
> >> problem.
> >> It's a heavy cast iron, not aluminum. Given the beating that TJ
> >> pumpkins get on the trail, it *better* be heavy duty!
> >>
> >> Floor jacks don't work too well on the frame of lifted Jeeps :-).
> >>
> >> _Elron
> >
> >
> > Yes, it's quite possible that anyone having this problem (if anyone
> > actually is) it's occuring after beating the tar out of it on the
> > Rubicon and Moab rocks, bringing it home, lifting it, and "OMG!, look
> > what the JACK did!" ;)
> >
> > tw
> >
>
> Can you just imagine how the poor suckers that have the Jeeps with that
> rear end and do that feel?
>
> They are totally different stresses. The wheels punching the axle tubes
> up to the springs isn't even close to the vehicle weight being suspended
> on the pumpkin for stress on the inner tubes.

You never high-centered your rear axle on a rock?

Saludos,

Earle

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45f9b6d8$0$6654$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> twaldron wrote:
> > L. Ron Waddle wrote:
> >> twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You seem to be missing the fact that the new axle tubes on some Jeeps
> >>>> will bend if you lift from the pumpkin. We are not pulling your leg
> >>>> on this... They made some D44's out of press fit aluminum. Jeep
> >>>> recommends using the axle tubes for it's stock floor jack.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not missing it. I hear ya. I'm saying I've not seen any problem
> >>> because of it, so I'm going to continue to do it if I have the need.
> >>> That aluminum axle you are talking about was put on some Grands, not
> >>> my XJ nor TJ.
> >>
> >>
> >> Indeed. I've picked up my TJ many a time by the pumpkin with no
> >> problem.
> >> It's a heavy cast iron, not aluminum. Given the beating that TJ
> >> pumpkins get on the trail, it *better* be heavy duty!
> >>
> >> Floor jacks don't work too well on the frame of lifted Jeeps :-).
> >>
> >> _Elron
> >
> >
> > Yes, it's quite possible that anyone having this problem (if anyone
> > actually is) it's occuring after beating the tar out of it on the
> > Rubicon and Moab rocks, bringing it home, lifting it, and "OMG!, look
> > what the JACK did!" ;)
> >
> > tw
> >
>
> Can you just imagine how the poor suckers that have the Jeeps with that
> rear end and do that feel?
>
> They are totally different stresses. The wheels punching the axle tubes
> up to the springs isn't even close to the vehicle weight being suspended
> on the pumpkin for stress on the inner tubes.

You never high-centered your rear axle on a rock?

Saludos,

Earle

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Two inch tubes on the Dana 35c are pitifully small:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/spundiff2.jpg
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where
> the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend
> the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time
> but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by
> the diff is not a good thing.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>
>



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Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Two inch tubes on the Dana 35c are pitifully small:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/spundiff2.jpg
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where
> the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend
> the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time
> but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by
> the diff is not a good thing.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>
>



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Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Two inch tubes on the Dana 35c are pitifully small:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/spundiff2.jpg
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where
> the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend
> the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time
> but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by
> the diff is not a good thing.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>
>



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Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Do your Rubicon lockers have aluminum housing, like the WJs?
Are you tired of your Bronco, yet? They went nuts over one on EBay I was
look at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=160093453653
The body was so bad he used a paint roller on it.
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"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
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>
> I lift by the pumpkin all the time, without issue. However, in
> exchanging wheels or rotating, I tend to lift one side up at a time via
> the middle of the frame rail.
>
> tw
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
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>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
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