Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

I've lift thousands of rear ends by the pumpkin in my twenty years as a
Chevron Dealer: http://www.----------.com/chevron.jpg But that was back in
the days when cars where powered by V8s via nine inch or twelve bolts. Now,
I'm not going take the chance, we know we can't stand on the hood, anymore
to pick fruit nor paint the house, in their attempt lighten the weight for
better mileage.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum housed
> D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not trying to sound
> like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been doing this wrong for
> years.
>
> Carl



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Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

I've lift thousands of rear ends by the pumpkin in my twenty years as a
Chevron Dealer: http://www.----------.com/chevron.jpg But that was back in
the days when cars where powered by V8s via nine inch or twelve bolts. Now,
I'm not going take the chance, we know we can't stand on the hood, anymore
to pick fruit nor paint the house, in their attempt lighten the weight for
better mileage.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------

"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OPadnd2Q8a4IVmXYnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum housed
> D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not trying to sound
> like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been doing this wrong for
> years.
>
> Carl



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Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Carl S wrote:
> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum
> housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not
> trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been
> doing this wrong for years.

On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where
the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend
the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time
but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by
the diff is not a good thing.


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Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Carl S wrote:
> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum
> housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not
> trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been
> doing this wrong for years.

On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where
the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend
the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time
but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by
the diff is not a good thing.


--
DougW

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Carl S wrote:
> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum
> housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not
> trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been
> doing this wrong for years.

On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where
the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend
the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time
but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by
the diff is not a good thing.


--
DougW

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

jerryg wrote:
> Good evening.
>
> I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86
> Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where
> are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I
> bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need
> advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles.
> Don't want to damage either of them ;-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>

I use the axle tubes or if I can fit, the spring perches for my floor jack.

If I have a flat, then I sometimes have to jack twice due to lack of
clearance. Once near the center to get room out by the wheel for a jack
stand for the jack to fit out there on the second lift up.

I think there is a sticker under the back seat that shows jacking points
for the stock floor jack also.

You should be checking out those rims 'very' carefully! We put modern,
92 I think, aluminum 5 spoke Jeep rims on our old Cherokee and the rear
tires tagged the anti-sway bar! The backspacing was way off on the rims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

jerryg wrote:
> Good evening.
>
> I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86
> Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where
> are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I
> bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need
> advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles.
> Don't want to damage either of them ;-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>

I use the axle tubes or if I can fit, the spring perches for my floor jack.

If I have a flat, then I sometimes have to jack twice due to lack of
clearance. Once near the center to get room out by the wheel for a jack
stand for the jack to fit out there on the second lift up.

I think there is a sticker under the back seat that shows jacking points
for the stock floor jack also.

You should be checking out those rims 'very' carefully! We put modern,
92 I think, aluminum 5 spoke Jeep rims on our old Cherokee and the rear
tires tagged the anti-sway bar! The backspacing was way off on the rims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

jerryg wrote:
> Good evening.
>
> I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86
> Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where
> are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I
> bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need
> advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles.
> Don't want to damage either of them ;-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>

I use the axle tubes or if I can fit, the spring perches for my floor jack.

If I have a flat, then I sometimes have to jack twice due to lack of
clearance. Once near the center to get room out by the wheel for a jack
stand for the jack to fit out there on the second lift up.

I think there is a sticker under the back seat that shows jacking points
for the stock floor jack also.

You should be checking out those rims 'very' carefully! We put modern,
92 I think, aluminum 5 spoke Jeep rims on our old Cherokee and the rear
tires tagged the anti-sway bar! The backspacing was way off on the rims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Doug,

Do you know if the D35 or 8.25 can be damaged this way?

Carl


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Carl S wrote:
>> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum
>> housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not
>> trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been
>> doing this wrong for years.
>
> On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where
> the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend
> the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time
> but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by
> the diff is not a good thing.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Doug,

Do you know if the D35 or 8.25 can be damaged this way?

Carl


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:I%9Kh.7207$Ng1.5553@newsfe19.lga...
> Carl S wrote:
>> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum
>> housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not
>> trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been
>> doing this wrong for years.
>
> On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where
> the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend
> the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time
> but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by
> the diff is not a good thing.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>