Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Good evening.
I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. Don't want to damage either of them ;-) Thanks, Greg |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
jerryg wrote:
> Good evening. > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) Just don't jack under the diff. Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. -- DougW |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
jerryg wrote:
> Good evening. > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) Just don't jack under the diff. Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. -- DougW |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
jerryg wrote:
> Good evening. > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) Just don't jack under the diff. Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. -- DougW |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
jerryg wrote:
> Good evening. > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > Thanks, > > Greg > The first time I jacked up my Jeep I did it like a car, from the frame. It occurred to me real quick that it won't work that way on a Jeep when the body lifted up way high and the tire was still on the ground!!! I always jack it up by the supports on the axles now. Lifts right up. BLOCK THE OTHER WHEELS! I can't stress this enough. I have two 1 foot long 4 x 4 wood blocks with a hole drilled through the end and a loop of rope in those holes for easy removal. Just make sure no one is behind you when you remove one!!!!!! |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
jerryg wrote:
> Good evening. > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > Thanks, > > Greg > The first time I jacked up my Jeep I did it like a car, from the frame. It occurred to me real quick that it won't work that way on a Jeep when the body lifted up way high and the tire was still on the ground!!! I always jack it up by the supports on the axles now. Lifts right up. BLOCK THE OTHER WHEELS! I can't stress this enough. I have two 1 foot long 4 x 4 wood blocks with a hole drilled through the end and a loop of rope in those holes for easy removal. Just make sure no one is behind you when you remove one!!!!!! |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
jerryg wrote:
> Good evening. > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > Thanks, > > Greg > The first time I jacked up my Jeep I did it like a car, from the frame. It occurred to me real quick that it won't work that way on a Jeep when the body lifted up way high and the tire was still on the ground!!! I always jack it up by the supports on the axles now. Lifts right up. BLOCK THE OTHER WHEELS! I can't stress this enough. I have two 1 foot long 4 x 4 wood blocks with a hole drilled through the end and a loop of rope in those holes for easy removal. Just make sure no one is behind you when you remove one!!!!!! |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
On Mar 14, 9:47 pm, Scott in Baltimore
<sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE...@yahoo.com> wrote: > jerryg wrote: > > Good evening. > > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > > Thanks, > > > Greg > > The first time I jacked up my Jeep I did it like a car, from the frame. > It occurred to me real quick that it won't work that way on a Jeep when > the body lifted up way high and the tire was still on the ground!!! > > I always jack it up by the supports on the axles now. Lifts right up. > > BLOCK THE OTHER WHEELS! I can't stress this enough. I have two 1 foot > long 4 x 4 wood blocks with a hole drilled through the end and a loop > of rope in those holes for easy removal. Just make sure no one is behind > you when you remove one!!!!!! Thanks to all!! Greg |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
On Mar 14, 9:47 pm, Scott in Baltimore
<sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE...@yahoo.com> wrote: > jerryg wrote: > > Good evening. > > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > > Thanks, > > > Greg > > The first time I jacked up my Jeep I did it like a car, from the frame. > It occurred to me real quick that it won't work that way on a Jeep when > the body lifted up way high and the tire was still on the ground!!! > > I always jack it up by the supports on the axles now. Lifts right up. > > BLOCK THE OTHER WHEELS! I can't stress this enough. I have two 1 foot > long 4 x 4 wood blocks with a hole drilled through the end and a loop > of rope in those holes for easy removal. Just make sure no one is behind > you when you remove one!!!!!! Thanks to all!! Greg |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
On Mar 14, 9:47 pm, Scott in Baltimore
<sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE...@yahoo.com> wrote: > jerryg wrote: > > Good evening. > > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > > Thanks, > > > Greg > > The first time I jacked up my Jeep I did it like a car, from the frame. > It occurred to me real quick that it won't work that way on a Jeep when > the body lifted up way high and the tire was still on the ground!!! > > I always jack it up by the supports on the axles now. Lifts right up. > > BLOCK THE OTHER WHEELS! I can't stress this enough. I have two 1 foot > long 4 x 4 wood blocks with a hole drilled through the end and a loop > of rope in those holes for easy removal. Just make sure no one is behind > you when you remove one!!!!!! Thanks to all!! Greg |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
I always jack under the pumpkin. Whats wrong with that?
Carl "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:Yo2Kh.7180$Ng1.3872@newsfe19.lga... > jerryg wrote: >> Good evening. >> >> I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 >> Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where >> are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I >> bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need >> advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. >> Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > Just don't jack under the diff. > > Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply > isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle > U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. > > > -- > DougW > |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
I always jack under the pumpkin. Whats wrong with that?
Carl "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:Yo2Kh.7180$Ng1.3872@newsfe19.lga... > jerryg wrote: >> Good evening. >> >> I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 >> Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where >> are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I >> bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need >> advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. >> Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > Just don't jack under the diff. > > Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply > isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle > U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. > > > -- > DougW > |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
I always jack under the pumpkin. Whats wrong with that?
Carl "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:Yo2Kh.7180$Ng1.3872@newsfe19.lga... > jerryg wrote: >> Good evening. >> >> I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 >> Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where >> are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I >> bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need >> advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. >> Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > Just don't jack under the diff. > > Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply > isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle > U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. > > > -- > DougW > |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum housed
D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been doing this wrong for years. Carl "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f8b356$0$16361$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > Grand Cherokees with the fake Dana 44 (aluminum housing) will bend and > take out the bearing, first time, every time. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:xvOdnWGUMNlfIWXYnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> I always jack under the pumpkin. Whats wrong with that? >> >> Carl > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum housed
D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been doing this wrong for years. Carl "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f8b356$0$16361$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > Grand Cherokees with the fake Dana 44 (aluminum housing) will bend and > take out the bearing, first time, every time. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:xvOdnWGUMNlfIWXYnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> I always jack under the pumpkin. Whats wrong with that? >> >> Carl > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum housed
D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been doing this wrong for years. Carl "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f8b356$0$16361$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > Grand Cherokees with the fake Dana 44 (aluminum housing) will bend and > take out the bearing, first time, every time. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:xvOdnWGUMNlfIWXYnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> I always jack under the pumpkin. Whats wrong with that? >> >> Carl > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Grand Cherokees with the fake Dana 44 (aluminum housing) will bend and
take out the bearing, first time, every time. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:xvOdnWGUMNlfIWXYnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > I always jack under the pumpkin. Whats wrong with that? > > Carl -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Grand Cherokees with the fake Dana 44 (aluminum housing) will bend and
take out the bearing, first time, every time. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:xvOdnWGUMNlfIWXYnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > I always jack under the pumpkin. Whats wrong with that? > > Carl -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Grand Cherokees with the fake Dana 44 (aluminum housing) will bend and
take out the bearing, first time, every time. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:xvOdnWGUMNlfIWXYnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > I always jack under the pumpkin. Whats wrong with that? > > Carl -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
I've lift thousands of rear ends by the pumpkin in my twenty years as a
Chevron Dealer: http://www.----------.com/chevron.jpg But that was back in the days when cars where powered by V8s via nine inch or twelve bolts. Now, I'm not going take the chance, we know we can't stand on the hood, anymore to pick fruit nor paint the house, in their attempt lighten the weight for better mileage. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OPadnd2Q8a4IVmXYnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum housed > D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not trying to sound > like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been doing this wrong for > years. > > Carl -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
I've lift thousands of rear ends by the pumpkin in my twenty years as a
Chevron Dealer: http://www.----------.com/chevron.jpg But that was back in the days when cars where powered by V8s via nine inch or twelve bolts. Now, I'm not going take the chance, we know we can't stand on the hood, anymore to pick fruit nor paint the house, in their attempt lighten the weight for better mileage. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OPadnd2Q8a4IVmXYnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum housed > D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not trying to sound > like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been doing this wrong for > years. > > Carl -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
I've lift thousands of rear ends by the pumpkin in my twenty years as a
Chevron Dealer: http://www.----------.com/chevron.jpg But that was back in the days when cars where powered by V8s via nine inch or twelve bolts. Now, I'm not going take the chance, we know we can't stand on the hood, anymore to pick fruit nor paint the house, in their attempt lighten the weight for better mileage. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OPadnd2Q8a4IVmXYnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum housed > D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not trying to sound > like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been doing this wrong for > years. > > Carl -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Carl S wrote:
> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum > housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not > trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been > doing this wrong for years. On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by the diff is not a good thing. -- DougW |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Carl S wrote:
> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum > housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not > trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been > doing this wrong for years. On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by the diff is not a good thing. -- DougW |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Carl S wrote:
> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum > housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not > trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been > doing this wrong for years. On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by the diff is not a good thing. -- DougW |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
jerryg wrote:
> Good evening. > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > Thanks, > > Greg > I use the axle tubes or if I can fit, the spring perches for my floor jack. If I have a flat, then I sometimes have to jack twice due to lack of clearance. Once near the center to get room out by the wheel for a jack stand for the jack to fit out there on the second lift up. I think there is a sticker under the back seat that shows jacking points for the stock floor jack also. You should be checking out those rims 'very' carefully! We put modern, 92 I think, aluminum 5 spoke Jeep rims on our old Cherokee and the rear tires tagged the anti-sway bar! The backspacing was way off on the rims. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
jerryg wrote:
> Good evening. > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > Thanks, > > Greg > I use the axle tubes or if I can fit, the spring perches for my floor jack. If I have a flat, then I sometimes have to jack twice due to lack of clearance. Once near the center to get room out by the wheel for a jack stand for the jack to fit out there on the second lift up. I think there is a sticker under the back seat that shows jacking points for the stock floor jack also. You should be checking out those rims 'very' carefully! We put modern, 92 I think, aluminum 5 spoke Jeep rims on our old Cherokee and the rear tires tagged the anti-sway bar! The backspacing was way off on the rims. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
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jerryg wrote:
> Good evening. > > I bought a floor jack tonight, planning on taking the tires off my 86 > Cherokee and swapping them with the tires from my 95 Wrangler. Where > are the best places to place the jack on each vehicle? Frame? Axles? I > bought jack stands as well to support then during the change. I need > advice on the safest location for the actual lifting on both vehicles. > Don't want to damage either of them ;-) > > Thanks, > > Greg > I use the axle tubes or if I can fit, the spring perches for my floor jack. If I have a flat, then I sometimes have to jack twice due to lack of clearance. Once near the center to get room out by the wheel for a jack stand for the jack to fit out there on the second lift up. I think there is a sticker under the back seat that shows jacking points for the stock floor jack also. You should be checking out those rims 'very' carefully! We put modern, 92 I think, aluminum 5 spoke Jeep rims on our old Cherokee and the rear tires tagged the anti-sway bar! The backspacing was way off on the rims. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Doug,
Do you know if the D35 or 8.25 can be damaged this way? Carl "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:I%9Kh.7207$Ng1.5553@newsfe19.lga... > Carl S wrote: >> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum >> housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not >> trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been >> doing this wrong for years. > > On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where > the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend > the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time > but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by > the diff is not a good thing. > > > -- > DougW > |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Doug,
Do you know if the D35 or 8.25 can be damaged this way? Carl "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:I%9Kh.7207$Ng1.5553@newsfe19.lga... > Carl S wrote: >> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum >> housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not >> trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been >> doing this wrong for years. > > On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where > the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend > the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time > but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by > the diff is not a good thing. > > > -- > DougW > |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Doug,
Do you know if the D35 or 8.25 can be damaged this way? Carl "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:I%9Kh.7207$Ng1.5553@newsfe19.lga... > Carl S wrote: >> 86 Cherokee doesn't have the fake D44. Other than with the aluminum >> housed D44, what's the problem with lifting at the pumpkin? Not >> trying to sound like a jackass, just want to make sure I haven't been >> doing this wrong for years. > > On older vehicles your probably safe, but on the newer ones where > the diff is lightweight with pressed in tubes, it can actually bend > the rear axle. Lifted my old C-10 chevy by the pumpkin all the time > but with the ZJ they even state in the service book that lifting by > the diff is not a good thing. > > > -- > DougW > |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
DougW wrote:
> Just don't jack under the diff. > > Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply > isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle > U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. I lift by the pumpkin all the time, without issue. However, in exchanging wheels or rotating, I tend to lift one side up at a time via the middle of the frame rail. tw -- __________________________________________________ ___________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. __________________________________________________ ___________________ |
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DougW wrote:
> Just don't jack under the diff. > > Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply > isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle > U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. I lift by the pumpkin all the time, without issue. However, in exchanging wheels or rotating, I tend to lift one side up at a time via the middle of the frame rail. tw -- __________________________________________________ ___________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. __________________________________________________ ___________________ |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
DougW wrote:
> Just don't jack under the diff. > > Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply > isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle > U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. I lift by the pumpkin all the time, without issue. However, in exchanging wheels or rotating, I tend to lift one side up at a time via the middle of the frame rail. tw -- __________________________________________________ ___________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. __________________________________________________ ___________________ |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
twaldron wrote:
> DougW wrote: >> Just don't jack under the diff. >> >> Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply >> isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle >> U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. > > I lift by the pumpkin all the time, without issue. However, in > exchanging wheels or rotating, I tend to lift one side up at a time via > the middle of the frame rail. > > tw > Just be warned that you habit might come back and bite you big time if you use the pumpkin on some newer vehicles for a jack point. They made them weaker to save weight or as a planned obsolescence feature. Weaken the drive parts on a SUV, right.... Complete rear ends are expensive. Second, just how freaking big is your floor jack that you can jack a TJ up from the side frame rails and actually lift the tires off the ground????? I can't even lift my XJ that way, nor are the 'frame' rails on my XJ strong enough to jack from. The owners manual for the XJ says to use the axle tubes... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
twaldron wrote:
> DougW wrote: >> Just don't jack under the diff. >> >> Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply >> isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle >> U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. > > I lift by the pumpkin all the time, without issue. However, in > exchanging wheels or rotating, I tend to lift one side up at a time via > the middle of the frame rail. > > tw > Just be warned that you habit might come back and bite you big time if you use the pumpkin on some newer vehicles for a jack point. They made them weaker to save weight or as a planned obsolescence feature. Weaken the drive parts on a SUV, right.... Complete rear ends are expensive. Second, just how freaking big is your floor jack that you can jack a TJ up from the side frame rails and actually lift the tires off the ground????? I can't even lift my XJ that way, nor are the 'frame' rails on my XJ strong enough to jack from. The owners manual for the XJ says to use the axle tubes... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
twaldron wrote:
> DougW wrote: >> Just don't jack under the diff. >> >> Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply >> isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle >> U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. > > I lift by the pumpkin all the time, without issue. However, in > exchanging wheels or rotating, I tend to lift one side up at a time via > the middle of the frame rail. > > tw > Just be warned that you habit might come back and bite you big time if you use the pumpkin on some newer vehicles for a jack point. They made them weaker to save weight or as a planned obsolescence feature. Weaken the drive parts on a SUV, right.... Complete rear ends are expensive. Second, just how freaking big is your floor jack that you can jack a TJ up from the side frame rails and actually lift the tires off the ground????? I can't even lift my XJ that way, nor are the 'frame' rails on my XJ strong enough to jack from. The owners manual for the XJ says to use the axle tubes... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Mike Romain wrote:
> twaldron wrote: > >> DougW wrote: >> >>> Just don't jack under the diff. >>> >>> Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply >>> isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle >>> U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. >> >> >> I lift by the pumpkin all the time, without issue. However, in >> exchanging wheels or rotating, I tend to lift one side up at a time >> via the middle of the frame rail. >> >> tw >> > > Just be warned that you habit might come back and bite you big time if > you use the pumpkin on some newer vehicles for a jack point. They made > them weaker to save weight or as a planned obsolescence feature. Weaken > the drive parts on a SUV, right.... Complete rear ends are expensive. > > Second, just how freaking big is your floor jack that you can jack a TJ > up from the side frame rails and actually lift the tires off the > ground????? > > I can't even lift my XJ that way, nor are the 'frame' rails on my XJ > strong enough to jack from. The owners manual for the XJ says to use > the axle tubes... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > Well, they don't come off the ground much, but all you need is a half inch. Another system I have for rotating, only requires one wheel off the ground at a time. Remove the spare from the back... then jack up the RR only and replace w/ spare, roll RR to RF, RF to LR and LR to LF...LF to spare. All one corner at a time. Easier to be happy with the jack point but takes a just a few mins longer and a bit more scrambling around. I use the control arm perches, again without issue. If you're lifting a corner of your Jeep and bending axle tubes, you've got more problems than needing a tire rotation. To replace the wheels completely, I'd be inclined to do one side at a time. tw -- __________________________________________________ ___________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. __________________________________________________ ___________________ |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Mike Romain wrote:
> twaldron wrote: > >> DougW wrote: >> >>> Just don't jack under the diff. >>> >>> Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply >>> isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle >>> U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. >> >> >> I lift by the pumpkin all the time, without issue. However, in >> exchanging wheels or rotating, I tend to lift one side up at a time >> via the middle of the frame rail. >> >> tw >> > > Just be warned that you habit might come back and bite you big time if > you use the pumpkin on some newer vehicles for a jack point. They made > them weaker to save weight or as a planned obsolescence feature. Weaken > the drive parts on a SUV, right.... Complete rear ends are expensive. > > Second, just how freaking big is your floor jack that you can jack a TJ > up from the side frame rails and actually lift the tires off the > ground????? > > I can't even lift my XJ that way, nor are the 'frame' rails on my XJ > strong enough to jack from. The owners manual for the XJ says to use > the axle tubes... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > Well, they don't come off the ground much, but all you need is a half inch. Another system I have for rotating, only requires one wheel off the ground at a time. Remove the spare from the back... then jack up the RR only and replace w/ spare, roll RR to RF, RF to LR and LR to LF...LF to spare. All one corner at a time. Easier to be happy with the jack point but takes a just a few mins longer and a bit more scrambling around. I use the control arm perches, again without issue. If you're lifting a corner of your Jeep and bending axle tubes, you've got more problems than needing a tire rotation. To replace the wheels completely, I'd be inclined to do one side at a time. tw -- __________________________________________________ ___________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. __________________________________________________ ___________________ |
Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
Mike Romain wrote:
> twaldron wrote: > >> DougW wrote: >> >>> Just don't jack under the diff. >>> >>> Frame lift points are the best but sometimes the jack simply >>> isn't tall enough. I generally put the jack under the axle >>> U bolts or fairly close. Haven't tweaked anything yet. >> >> >> I lift by the pumpkin all the time, without issue. However, in >> exchanging wheels or rotating, I tend to lift one side up at a time >> via the middle of the frame rail. >> >> tw >> > > Just be warned that you habit might come back and bite you big time if > you use the pumpkin on some newer vehicles for a jack point. They made > them weaker to save weight or as a planned obsolescence feature. Weaken > the drive parts on a SUV, right.... Complete rear ends are expensive. > > Second, just how freaking big is your floor jack that you can jack a TJ > up from the side frame rails and actually lift the tires off the > ground????? > > I can't even lift my XJ that way, nor are the 'frame' rails on my XJ > strong enough to jack from. The owners manual for the XJ says to use > the axle tubes... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > Well, they don't come off the ground much, but all you need is a half inch. Another system I have for rotating, only requires one wheel off the ground at a time. Remove the spare from the back... then jack up the RR only and replace w/ spare, roll RR to RF, RF to LR and LR to LF...LF to spare. All one corner at a time. Easier to be happy with the jack point but takes a just a few mins longer and a bit more scrambling around. I use the control arm perches, again without issue. If you're lifting a corner of your Jeep and bending axle tubes, you've got more problems than needing a tire rotation. To replace the wheels completely, I'd be inclined to do one side at a time. tw -- __________________________________________________ ___________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. __________________________________________________ ___________________ |
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