Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

L. Ron Waddle wrote:
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>You seem to be missing the fact that the new axle tubes on some Jeeps
>>>will bend if you lift from the pumpkin. We are not pulling your leg
>>>on this... They made some D44's out of press fit aluminum. Jeep
>>>recommends using the axle tubes for it's stock floor jack.
>>
>>
>>I'm not missing it. I hear ya. I'm saying I've not seen any problem
>>because of it, so I'm going to continue to do it if I have the need.
>>That aluminum axle you are talking about was put on some Grands, not my
>>XJ nor TJ.
>
>
> Indeed. I've picked up my TJ many a time by the pumpkin with no problem.
> It's a heavy cast iron, not aluminum. Given the beating that TJ pumpkins
> get on the trail, it *better* be heavy duty!
>
> Floor jacks don't work too well on the frame of lifted Jeeps :-).
>
> _Elron


Yes, it's quite possible that anyone having this problem (if anyone
actually is) it's occuring after beating the tar out of it on the
Rubicon and Moab rocks, bringing it home, lifting it, and "OMG!, look
what the JACK did!" ;)

tw

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Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

twaldron wrote:
> L. Ron Waddle wrote:
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>> You seem to be missing the fact that the new axle tubes on some Jeeps
>>>> will bend if you lift from the pumpkin. We are not pulling your leg
>>>> on this... They made some D44's out of press fit aluminum. Jeep
>>>> recommends using the axle tubes for it's stock floor jack.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not missing it. I hear ya. I'm saying I've not seen any problem
>>> because of it, so I'm going to continue to do it if I have the need.
>>> That aluminum axle you are talking about was put on some Grands, not my
>>> XJ nor TJ.
>>
>>
>> Indeed. I've picked up my TJ many a time by the pumpkin with no problem.
>> It's a heavy cast iron, not aluminum. Given the beating that TJ pumpkins
>> get on the trail, it *better* be heavy duty!
>>
>> Floor jacks don't work too well on the frame of lifted Jeeps :-).
>>
>> _Elron
>
>
> Yes, it's quite possible that anyone having this problem (if anyone
> actually is) it's occuring after beating the tar out of it on the
> Rubicon and Moab rocks, bringing it home, lifting it, and "OMG!, look
> what the JACK did!" ;)
>
> tw
>

Can you just imagine how the poor suckers that have the Jeeps with that
rear end and do that feel?

They are totally different stresses. The wheels punching the axle tubes
up to the springs isn't even close to the vehicle weight being suspended
on the pumpkin for stress on the inner tubes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

twaldron wrote:
> L. Ron Waddle wrote:
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>> You seem to be missing the fact that the new axle tubes on some Jeeps
>>>> will bend if you lift from the pumpkin. We are not pulling your leg
>>>> on this... They made some D44's out of press fit aluminum. Jeep
>>>> recommends using the axle tubes for it's stock floor jack.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not missing it. I hear ya. I'm saying I've not seen any problem
>>> because of it, so I'm going to continue to do it if I have the need.
>>> That aluminum axle you are talking about was put on some Grands, not my
>>> XJ nor TJ.
>>
>>
>> Indeed. I've picked up my TJ many a time by the pumpkin with no problem.
>> It's a heavy cast iron, not aluminum. Given the beating that TJ pumpkins
>> get on the trail, it *better* be heavy duty!
>>
>> Floor jacks don't work too well on the frame of lifted Jeeps :-).
>>
>> _Elron
>
>
> Yes, it's quite possible that anyone having this problem (if anyone
> actually is) it's occuring after beating the tar out of it on the
> Rubicon and Moab rocks, bringing it home, lifting it, and "OMG!, look
> what the JACK did!" ;)
>
> tw
>

Can you just imagine how the poor suckers that have the Jeeps with that
rear end and do that feel?

They are totally different stresses. The wheels punching the axle tubes
up to the springs isn't even close to the vehicle weight being suspended
on the pumpkin for stress on the inner tubes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

twaldron wrote:
> L. Ron Waddle wrote:
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>> You seem to be missing the fact that the new axle tubes on some Jeeps
>>>> will bend if you lift from the pumpkin. We are not pulling your leg
>>>> on this... They made some D44's out of press fit aluminum. Jeep
>>>> recommends using the axle tubes for it's stock floor jack.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not missing it. I hear ya. I'm saying I've not seen any problem
>>> because of it, so I'm going to continue to do it if I have the need.
>>> That aluminum axle you are talking about was put on some Grands, not my
>>> XJ nor TJ.
>>
>>
>> Indeed. I've picked up my TJ many a time by the pumpkin with no problem.
>> It's a heavy cast iron, not aluminum. Given the beating that TJ pumpkins
>> get on the trail, it *better* be heavy duty!
>>
>> Floor jacks don't work too well on the frame of lifted Jeeps :-).
>>
>> _Elron
>
>
> Yes, it's quite possible that anyone having this problem (if anyone
> actually is) it's occuring after beating the tar out of it on the
> Rubicon and Moab rocks, bringing it home, lifting it, and "OMG!, look
> what the JACK did!" ;)
>
> tw
>

Can you just imagine how the poor suckers that have the Jeeps with that
rear end and do that feel?

They are totally different stresses. The wheels punching the axle tubes
up to the springs isn't even close to the vehicle weight being suspended
on the pumpkin for stress on the inner tubes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Carl S wrote:
> Doug,
>
> Do you know if the D35 or 8.25 can be damaged this way?

The D35 (what I have the 93 ZJ) can be. It depends on how smooth
you are. If you let the vehicle down quick and let it bounce off
the jack, then yes.

It's just something every one I've heard recommends against.

Personally I wonder how something that bouces off the occasional
rock can be hurt that badly by a jack, but it's not something
I'm gonna test myself.

--
DougW

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Carl S wrote:
> Doug,
>
> Do you know if the D35 or 8.25 can be damaged this way?

The D35 (what I have the 93 ZJ) can be. It depends on how smooth
you are. If you let the vehicle down quick and let it bounce off
the jack, then yes.

It's just something every one I've heard recommends against.

Personally I wonder how something that bouces off the occasional
rock can be hurt that badly by a jack, but it's not something
I'm gonna test myself.

--
DougW

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Carl S wrote:
> Doug,
>
> Do you know if the D35 or 8.25 can be damaged this way?

The D35 (what I have the 93 ZJ) can be. It depends on how smooth
you are. If you let the vehicle down quick and let it bounce off
the jack, then yes.

It's just something every one I've heard recommends against.

Personally I wonder how something that bouces off the occasional
rock can be hurt that badly by a jack, but it's not something
I'm gonna test myself.

--
DougW

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45f9b6d8$0$6654$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> twaldron wrote:
>>> L. Ron Waddle wrote:
>>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You seem to be missing the fact that the new axle tubes on some Jeeps
>>>>>> will bend if you lift from the pumpkin. We are not pulling your leg
>>>>>> on this... They made some D44's out of press fit aluminum. Jeep
>>>>>> recommends using the axle tubes for it's stock floor jack.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not missing it. I hear ya. I'm saying I've not seen any problem
>>>>> because of it, so I'm going to continue to do it if I have the need.
>>>>> That aluminum axle you are talking about was put on some Grands, not
>>>>> my XJ nor TJ.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. I've picked up my TJ many a time by the pumpkin with no
>>>> problem.
>>>> It's a heavy cast iron, not aluminum. Given the beating that TJ
>>>> pumpkins get on the trail, it *better* be heavy duty!
>>>>
>>>> Floor jacks don't work too well on the frame of lifted Jeeps :-).
>>>>
>>>> _Elron
>>>
>>> Yes, it's quite possible that anyone having this problem (if anyone
>>> actually is) it's occuring after beating the tar out of it on the
>>> Rubicon and Moab rocks, bringing it home, lifting it, and "OMG!, look
>>> what the JACK did!" ;)
>>>
>>> tw
>>>
>> Can you just imagine how the poor suckers that have the Jeeps with that
>> rear end and do that feel?
>>
>> They are totally different stresses. The wheels punching the axle tubes
>> up to the springs isn't even close to the vehicle weight being suspended
>> on the pumpkin for stress on the inner tubes.
>
> You never high-centered your rear axle on a rock?
>
> Saludos,
>
> Earle
>
>

Actually not yet. I try to aim the rock where the diff pumpkins aren't...

Now I have been just plain high centered into mud and on trails that
were dug out by larger tires than mine, but that has involved the whole
axle, not just the center.

Mike

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45f9b6d8$0$6654$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> twaldron wrote:
>>> L. Ron Waddle wrote:
>>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You seem to be missing the fact that the new axle tubes on some Jeeps
>>>>>> will bend if you lift from the pumpkin. We are not pulling your leg
>>>>>> on this... They made some D44's out of press fit aluminum. Jeep
>>>>>> recommends using the axle tubes for it's stock floor jack.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not missing it. I hear ya. I'm saying I've not seen any problem
>>>>> because of it, so I'm going to continue to do it if I have the need.
>>>>> That aluminum axle you are talking about was put on some Grands, not
>>>>> my XJ nor TJ.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. I've picked up my TJ many a time by the pumpkin with no
>>>> problem.
>>>> It's a heavy cast iron, not aluminum. Given the beating that TJ
>>>> pumpkins get on the trail, it *better* be heavy duty!
>>>>
>>>> Floor jacks don't work too well on the frame of lifted Jeeps :-).
>>>>
>>>> _Elron
>>>
>>> Yes, it's quite possible that anyone having this problem (if anyone
>>> actually is) it's occuring after beating the tar out of it on the
>>> Rubicon and Moab rocks, bringing it home, lifting it, and "OMG!, look
>>> what the JACK did!" ;)
>>>
>>> tw
>>>
>> Can you just imagine how the poor suckers that have the Jeeps with that
>> rear end and do that feel?
>>
>> They are totally different stresses. The wheels punching the axle tubes
>> up to the springs isn't even close to the vehicle weight being suspended
>> on the pumpkin for stress on the inner tubes.
>
> You never high-centered your rear axle on a rock?
>
> Saludos,
>
> Earle
>
>

Actually not yet. I try to aim the rock where the diff pumpkins aren't...

Now I have been just plain high centered into mud and on trails that
were dug out by larger tires than mine, but that has involved the whole
axle, not just the center.

Mike

Re: Lifting (floor jack) points on my Jeeps
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45f9b6d8$0$6654$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> twaldron wrote:
>>> L. Ron Waddle wrote:
>>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You seem to be missing the fact that the new axle tubes on some Jeeps
>>>>>> will bend if you lift from the pumpkin. We are not pulling your leg
>>>>>> on this... They made some D44's out of press fit aluminum. Jeep
>>>>>> recommends using the axle tubes for it's stock floor jack.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not missing it. I hear ya. I'm saying I've not seen any problem
>>>>> because of it, so I'm going to continue to do it if I have the need.
>>>>> That aluminum axle you are talking about was put on some Grands, not
>>>>> my XJ nor TJ.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. I've picked up my TJ many a time by the pumpkin with no
>>>> problem.
>>>> It's a heavy cast iron, not aluminum. Given the beating that TJ
>>>> pumpkins get on the trail, it *better* be heavy duty!
>>>>
>>>> Floor jacks don't work too well on the frame of lifted Jeeps :-).
>>>>
>>>> _Elron
>>>
>>> Yes, it's quite possible that anyone having this problem (if anyone
>>> actually is) it's occuring after beating the tar out of it on the
>>> Rubicon and Moab rocks, bringing it home, lifting it, and "OMG!, look
>>> what the JACK did!" ;)
>>>
>>> tw
>>>
>> Can you just imagine how the poor suckers that have the Jeeps with that
>> rear end and do that feel?
>>
>> They are totally different stresses. The wheels punching the axle tubes
>> up to the springs isn't even close to the vehicle weight being suspended
>> on the pumpkin for stress on the inner tubes.
>
> You never high-centered your rear axle on a rock?
>
> Saludos,
>
> Earle
>
>

Actually not yet. I try to aim the rock where the diff pumpkins aren't...

Now I have been just plain high centered into mud and on trails that
were dug out by larger tires than mine, but that has involved the whole
axle, not just the center.

Mike