Lifter noise...should I worry?
04-13-2005, 11:12 AM
#21
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Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
jromas@columbus.rr.com (Jo Bo) wrote:
Your engine is not worn out at 120k.
Thank goodness!
Clean the breather on the rear plastic fitting on the valve cover. It
will brake if you try to remove it. Just pull out the small plastic hose
and then use a small screw driver to clean the opening.
Hmm, I have something that resembles a PCV valve near the rear of the
valve cover, but there is a large rubber hose going from there to the
air filter.
"Daniel Paisley" <dmpazlee@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:14131-425A97B4-418@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
04-13-2005, 11:57 AM
#22
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Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
Both of my 258's have had a lifter noise when first started. I just
figure is is a lifter or 3 that is a bit weak until the oil pressure
pumps them up or they have some build up that needs heat to loosen.
And I know folks that did get suckered for a rebuilt because of the
'blow by' including the previous owner of my Jeep. He was told the
engine was toast but I found a brand new crank and cam in it after I
opened it to see....
All mine needed was a new canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
figure is is a lifter or 3 that is a bit weak until the oil pressure
pumps them up or they have some build up that needs heat to loosen.
And I know folks that did get suckered for a rebuilt because of the
'blow by' including the previous owner of my Jeep. He was told the
engine was toast but I found a brand new crank and cam in it after I
opened it to see....
All mine needed was a new canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
04-13-2005, 11:57 AM
#23
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Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
Both of my 258's have had a lifter noise when first started. I just
figure is is a lifter or 3 that is a bit weak until the oil pressure
pumps them up or they have some build up that needs heat to loosen.
And I know folks that did get suckered for a rebuilt because of the
'blow by' including the previous owner of my Jeep. He was told the
engine was toast but I found a brand new crank and cam in it after I
opened it to see....
All mine needed was a new canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
figure is is a lifter or 3 that is a bit weak until the oil pressure
pumps them up or they have some build up that needs heat to loosen.
And I know folks that did get suckered for a rebuilt because of the
'blow by' including the previous owner of my Jeep. He was told the
engine was toast but I found a brand new crank and cam in it after I
opened it to see....
All mine needed was a new canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
04-13-2005, 11:57 AM
#24
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Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
Both of my 258's have had a lifter noise when first started. I just
figure is is a lifter or 3 that is a bit weak until the oil pressure
pumps them up or they have some build up that needs heat to loosen.
And I know folks that did get suckered for a rebuilt because of the
'blow by' including the previous owner of my Jeep. He was told the
engine was toast but I found a brand new crank and cam in it after I
opened it to see....
All mine needed was a new canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
figure is is a lifter or 3 that is a bit weak until the oil pressure
pumps them up or they have some build up that needs heat to loosen.
And I know folks that did get suckered for a rebuilt because of the
'blow by' including the previous owner of my Jeep. He was told the
engine was toast but I found a brand new crank and cam in it after I
opened it to see....
All mine needed was a new canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
04-13-2005, 11:57 AM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
Both of my 258's have had a lifter noise when first started. I just
figure is is a lifter or 3 that is a bit weak until the oil pressure
pumps them up or they have some build up that needs heat to loosen.
And I know folks that did get suckered for a rebuilt because of the
'blow by' including the previous owner of my Jeep. He was told the
engine was toast but I found a brand new crank and cam in it after I
opened it to see....
All mine needed was a new canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
figure is is a lifter or 3 that is a bit weak until the oil pressure
pumps them up or they have some build up that needs heat to loosen.
And I know folks that did get suckered for a rebuilt because of the
'blow by' including the previous owner of my Jeep. He was told the
engine was toast but I found a brand new crank and cam in it after I
opened it to see....
All mine needed was a new canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
04-13-2005, 12:42 PM
#26
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Posts: n/a
Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
Different engines, one has a CCV that plugs, the other a PCV and
canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
>
> jromas@columbus.rr.com (Jo Bo) wrote:
> Your engine is not worn out at 120k.
>
> Thank goodness!
>
> Clean the breather on the rear plastic fitting on the valve cover. It
> will brake if you try to remove it. Just pull out the small plastic hose
> and then use a small screw driver to clean the opening.
>
> Hmm, I have something that resembles a PCV valve near the rear of the
> valve cover, but there is a large rubber hose going from there to the
> air filter.
>
>
> "Daniel Paisley" <dmpazlee@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:14131-425A97B4-418@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
>
> jromas@columbus.rr.com (Jo Bo) wrote:
> Your engine is not worn out at 120k.
>
> Thank goodness!
>
> Clean the breather on the rear plastic fitting on the valve cover. It
> will brake if you try to remove it. Just pull out the small plastic hose
> and then use a small screw driver to clean the opening.
>
> Hmm, I have something that resembles a PCV valve near the rear of the
> valve cover, but there is a large rubber hose going from there to the
> air filter.
>
>
> "Daniel Paisley" <dmpazlee@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:14131-425A97B4-418@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
04-13-2005, 12:42 PM
#27
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Posts: n/a
Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
Different engines, one has a CCV that plugs, the other a PCV and
canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
>
> jromas@columbus.rr.com (Jo Bo) wrote:
> Your engine is not worn out at 120k.
>
> Thank goodness!
>
> Clean the breather on the rear plastic fitting on the valve cover. It
> will brake if you try to remove it. Just pull out the small plastic hose
> and then use a small screw driver to clean the opening.
>
> Hmm, I have something that resembles a PCV valve near the rear of the
> valve cover, but there is a large rubber hose going from there to the
> air filter.
>
>
> "Daniel Paisley" <dmpazlee@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:14131-425A97B4-418@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
>
> jromas@columbus.rr.com (Jo Bo) wrote:
> Your engine is not worn out at 120k.
>
> Thank goodness!
>
> Clean the breather on the rear plastic fitting on the valve cover. It
> will brake if you try to remove it. Just pull out the small plastic hose
> and then use a small screw driver to clean the opening.
>
> Hmm, I have something that resembles a PCV valve near the rear of the
> valve cover, but there is a large rubber hose going from there to the
> air filter.
>
>
> "Daniel Paisley" <dmpazlee@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:14131-425A97B4-418@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
04-13-2005, 12:42 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
Different engines, one has a CCV that plugs, the other a PCV and
canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
>
> jromas@columbus.rr.com (Jo Bo) wrote:
> Your engine is not worn out at 120k.
>
> Thank goodness!
>
> Clean the breather on the rear plastic fitting on the valve cover. It
> will brake if you try to remove it. Just pull out the small plastic hose
> and then use a small screw driver to clean the opening.
>
> Hmm, I have something that resembles a PCV valve near the rear of the
> valve cover, but there is a large rubber hose going from there to the
> air filter.
>
>
> "Daniel Paisley" <dmpazlee@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:14131-425A97B4-418@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
>
> jromas@columbus.rr.com (Jo Bo) wrote:
> Your engine is not worn out at 120k.
>
> Thank goodness!
>
> Clean the breather on the rear plastic fitting on the valve cover. It
> will brake if you try to remove it. Just pull out the small plastic hose
> and then use a small screw driver to clean the opening.
>
> Hmm, I have something that resembles a PCV valve near the rear of the
> valve cover, but there is a large rubber hose going from there to the
> air filter.
>
>
> "Daniel Paisley" <dmpazlee@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:14131-425A97B4-418@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
04-13-2005, 12:42 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
Different engines, one has a CCV that plugs, the other a PCV and
canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
>
> jromas@columbus.rr.com (Jo Bo) wrote:
> Your engine is not worn out at 120k.
>
> Thank goodness!
>
> Clean the breather on the rear plastic fitting on the valve cover. It
> will brake if you try to remove it. Just pull out the small plastic hose
> and then use a small screw driver to clean the opening.
>
> Hmm, I have something that resembles a PCV valve near the rear of the
> valve cover, but there is a large rubber hose going from there to the
> air filter.
>
>
> "Daniel Paisley" <dmpazlee@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:14131-425A97B4-418@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
canister.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Daniel Paisley wrote:
>
>
> jromas@columbus.rr.com (Jo Bo) wrote:
> Your engine is not worn out at 120k.
>
> Thank goodness!
>
> Clean the breather on the rear plastic fitting on the valve cover. It
> will brake if you try to remove it. Just pull out the small plastic hose
> and then use a small screw driver to clean the opening.
>
> Hmm, I have something that resembles a PCV valve near the rear of the
> valve cover, but there is a large rubber hose going from there to the
> air filter.
>
>
> "Daniel Paisley" <dmpazlee@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:14131-425A97B4-418@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
04-16-2005, 06:10 AM
#30
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Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
romainm@sympatico.ca (Mike Romain)wrote:
Different engines, one has a CCV that plugs, the other a PCV and
canister._________________________________________ ____________________
Well I found the canister, that thing _is_ way down there isn't it?! I
still am unsure about the PCV valve looking thing behind the air
breather. I've looked all through my Haynes and the best thing I found
was a diagram saying "PCV air in". Now does this just get cleaned, or
replaced? Tomorrow I'm doing the "pinch" test. I'm also putting some
serious thought into this 'nutter' thing. I'm not concerned with NOx,
C3p0, R2D2, or any of it. Would just running without a CAT make any
difference? We have no emission testing here :) Dan