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Daniel Paisley 04-11-2005 11:28 AM

Lifter noise...should I worry?
 
It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA


JimG 04-11-2005 12:45 PM

Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
 
Your symptoms are not unusual for these motors at that mileage. If it's
like mine you also have leaks and blow-by. No doubt these are the signs of
a motor that is wearing out. My intention is to run mine till it gives up
(not my daily driver) and then rebuild/replace. I have about the same
mileage as yours and won't be surprised to get another 50K out of it.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
..
"Daniel Paisley" wrote in message ...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
>




JimG 04-11-2005 12:45 PM

Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
 
Your symptoms are not unusual for these motors at that mileage. If it's
like mine you also have leaks and blow-by. No doubt these are the signs of
a motor that is wearing out. My intention is to run mine till it gives up
(not my daily driver) and then rebuild/replace. I have about the same
mileage as yours and won't be surprised to get another 50K out of it.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
..
"Daniel Paisley" wrote in message ...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
>




JimG 04-11-2005 12:45 PM

Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
 
Your symptoms are not unusual for these motors at that mileage. If it's
like mine you also have leaks and blow-by. No doubt these are the signs of
a motor that is wearing out. My intention is to run mine till it gives up
(not my daily driver) and then rebuild/replace. I have about the same
mileage as yours and won't be surprised to get another 50K out of it.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
..
"Daniel Paisley" wrote in message ...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
>




JimG 04-11-2005 12:45 PM

Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
 
Your symptoms are not unusual for these motors at that mileage. If it's
like mine you also have leaks and blow-by. No doubt these are the signs of
a motor that is wearing out. My intention is to run mine till it gives up
(not my daily driver) and then rebuild/replace. I have about the same
mileage as yours and won't be surprised to get another 50K out of it.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
..
"Daniel Paisley" wrote in message ...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
>




Pi-eyed Piper 04-11-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
 
I had the same problem (258, 293,000KM). About 6 months ago I started
putting about half a litre of lucas in with my oil and I haven't heard it
since.


"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:BQx6e.3340$hg.796@news01.roc.ny...
> Your symptoms are not unusual for these motors at that mileage. If it's
> like mine you also have leaks and blow-by. No doubt these are the signs

of
> a motor that is wearing out. My intention is to run mine till it gives up
> (not my daily driver) and then rebuild/replace. I have about the same
> mileage as yours and won't be surprised to get another 50K out of it.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> .
> "Daniel Paisley" wrote in message ...
> > It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> > group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> > blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> > a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> > hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> > It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> > lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> > this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
> >

>
>




Pi-eyed Piper 04-11-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
 
I had the same problem (258, 293,000KM). About 6 months ago I started
putting about half a litre of lucas in with my oil and I haven't heard it
since.


"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:BQx6e.3340$hg.796@news01.roc.ny...
> Your symptoms are not unusual for these motors at that mileage. If it's
> like mine you also have leaks and blow-by. No doubt these are the signs

of
> a motor that is wearing out. My intention is to run mine till it gives up
> (not my daily driver) and then rebuild/replace. I have about the same
> mileage as yours and won't be surprised to get another 50K out of it.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> .
> "Daniel Paisley" wrote in message ...
> > It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> > group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> > blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> > a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> > hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> > It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> > lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> > this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
> >

>
>




Pi-eyed Piper 04-11-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
 
I had the same problem (258, 293,000KM). About 6 months ago I started
putting about half a litre of lucas in with my oil and I haven't heard it
since.


"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:BQx6e.3340$hg.796@news01.roc.ny...
> Your symptoms are not unusual for these motors at that mileage. If it's
> like mine you also have leaks and blow-by. No doubt these are the signs

of
> a motor that is wearing out. My intention is to run mine till it gives up
> (not my daily driver) and then rebuild/replace. I have about the same
> mileage as yours and won't be surprised to get another 50K out of it.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> .
> "Daniel Paisley" wrote in message ...
> > It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> > group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> > blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> > a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> > hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> > It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> > lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> > this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
> >

>
>




Pi-eyed Piper 04-11-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
 
I had the same problem (258, 293,000KM). About 6 months ago I started
putting about half a litre of lucas in with my oil and I haven't heard it
since.


"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:BQx6e.3340$hg.796@news01.roc.ny...
> Your symptoms are not unusual for these motors at that mileage. If it's
> like mine you also have leaks and blow-by. No doubt these are the signs

of
> a motor that is wearing out. My intention is to run mine till it gives up
> (not my daily driver) and then rebuild/replace. I have about the same
> mileage as yours and won't be surprised to get another 50K out of it.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> .
> "Daniel Paisley" wrote in message ...
> > It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> > group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> > blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> > a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> > hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> > It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> > lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> > this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
> >

>
>




Jo Bo 04-13-2005 06:54 AM

Re: Lifter noise...should I worry?
 
Your engine is not worn out at 120k. Clean the breather on the rear plastic
fitting on the valve cover. It will brake if you try to remove it. Just pull
out the small plastic hose and then use a small screw driver to clean the
opening. For your noise my 96 with 142k is noisy and it's the pistons and
lucas won't help there but Restore does. My vintage had (96) problems with
the wrong size pistons being put in but I don't think your 89 suffered from
that "feature".

JoBo

"Daniel Paisley" <dmpazlee@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:14131-425A97B4-418@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
> It seems as though the only people that know about a 258 are in this
> group! If I go to the shop for _anything_ motor wise, I'm told about the
> blow-by (bad rings etc.). I'm guessing they're wanting to charge me for
> a rebuild?! Anywhoo, question is this. I'm starting (well have been),
> hearing some lifter noise. Mostly at start-up with higher oil pressure.
> It seems to go away after things warm up, and pressure gets a little
> lower. Other times it is there when engine is warm. Is there a 'fix' for
> this? Or is my '89 258 with 120k about to take a big nap? TIA
>





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