Liberty Diesel
03-26-2005, 05:25 PM
#21
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Re: Liberty Diesel
Mike, The newer diesels here, like the VWs, and those MB "Smart" cars
have catalytic convertors.....they burn CLEAN, and have very little
smell....A buddy drives a VW Golf TDI, and even in a parkade, parked
between other cars, and idling, you'd never guess it was a diesel.
Also, by '07, our diesel is supposed to be lower sulphur than europe's.
I'd imagine the new KJ CRD is likely to be on par with these mini diesels.
Paul
Mike Romain wrote:
> I think you are a first here. Wow!
>
> What country are you in?
>
> Our Canadian Diesel is so stinky the vehicles are no fun at all to be
> behind on a trail so while I would welcome you to join us on an off road
> run I would like you to bring up the rear. ;-)
>
> The trac loc is nice and give good traction. If you ever are on ice
> with one rear wheel spinning from a stop, just tap the brake pedal and
> both wheels will turn. You can do this with open diffs to, but it is
> harder to learn.
03-26-2005, 05:25 PM
#22
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Re: Liberty Diesel
Mike, The newer diesels here, like the VWs, and those MB "Smart" cars
have catalytic convertors.....they burn CLEAN, and have very little
smell....A buddy drives a VW Golf TDI, and even in a parkade, parked
between other cars, and idling, you'd never guess it was a diesel.
Also, by '07, our diesel is supposed to be lower sulphur than europe's.
I'd imagine the new KJ CRD is likely to be on par with these mini diesels.
Paul
Mike Romain wrote:
> I think you are a first here. Wow!
>
> What country are you in?
>
> Our Canadian Diesel is so stinky the vehicles are no fun at all to be
> behind on a trail so while I would welcome you to join us on an off road
> run I would like you to bring up the rear. ;-)
>
> The trac loc is nice and give good traction. If you ever are on ice
> with one rear wheel spinning from a stop, just tap the brake pedal and
> both wheels will turn. You can do this with open diffs to, but it is
> harder to learn.
03-26-2005, 05:29 PM
#23
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Re: Liberty Diesel
ARBs don't fail often when used....they fail often when NOT used.
The O-Rings dry out and crack if they're not actuated often.
If you use them a lot, they last alot longer!
However, for a Libby, I'd probably reccommend something like a Tractech
Truetrac....or if there's a desire for something that will lock, an
Electrac or Aubrun Ectec if they're available for the Libby axle.
LSD or spool at a flick of a switch.
Paul
Paul Calman wrote:
> I never
> got on the ARB bandwagon, as i don't like things that fail often when used.
The O-Rings dry out and crack if they're not actuated often.
If you use them a lot, they last alot longer!
However, for a Libby, I'd probably reccommend something like a Tractech
Truetrac....or if there's a desire for something that will lock, an
Electrac or Aubrun Ectec if they're available for the Libby axle.
LSD or spool at a flick of a switch.
Paul
Paul Calman wrote:
> I never
> got on the ARB bandwagon, as i don't like things that fail often when used.
03-26-2005, 05:29 PM
#24
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Re: Liberty Diesel
ARBs don't fail often when used....they fail often when NOT used.
The O-Rings dry out and crack if they're not actuated often.
If you use them a lot, they last alot longer!
However, for a Libby, I'd probably reccommend something like a Tractech
Truetrac....or if there's a desire for something that will lock, an
Electrac or Aubrun Ectec if they're available for the Libby axle.
LSD or spool at a flick of a switch.
Paul
Paul Calman wrote:
> I never
> got on the ARB bandwagon, as i don't like things that fail often when used.
The O-Rings dry out and crack if they're not actuated often.
If you use them a lot, they last alot longer!
However, for a Libby, I'd probably reccommend something like a Tractech
Truetrac....or if there's a desire for something that will lock, an
Electrac or Aubrun Ectec if they're available for the Libby axle.
LSD or spool at a flick of a switch.
Paul
Paul Calman wrote:
> I never
> got on the ARB bandwagon, as i don't like things that fail often when used.
03-26-2005, 05:29 PM
#25
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Re: Liberty Diesel
ARBs don't fail often when used....they fail often when NOT used.
The O-Rings dry out and crack if they're not actuated often.
If you use them a lot, they last alot longer!
However, for a Libby, I'd probably reccommend something like a Tractech
Truetrac....or if there's a desire for something that will lock, an
Electrac or Aubrun Ectec if they're available for the Libby axle.
LSD or spool at a flick of a switch.
Paul
Paul Calman wrote:
> I never
> got on the ARB bandwagon, as i don't like things that fail often when used.
The O-Rings dry out and crack if they're not actuated often.
If you use them a lot, they last alot longer!
However, for a Libby, I'd probably reccommend something like a Tractech
Truetrac....or if there's a desire for something that will lock, an
Electrac or Aubrun Ectec if they're available for the Libby axle.
LSD or spool at a flick of a switch.
Paul
Paul Calman wrote:
> I never
> got on the ARB bandwagon, as i don't like things that fail often when used.
03-26-2005, 05:32 PM
#26
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Re: Liberty Diesel
I will maybe revise my opinion next time I have to follow one, but
haven't seen any.
The busses are still a killer to get stuck behind with the top down.
They haven't started cleaning the sulfur out yet I don't think.
Mike
Paul Keating wrote:
>
> Mike, The newer diesels here, like the VWs, and those MB "Smart" cars
> have catalytic convertors.....they burn CLEAN, and have very little
> smell....A buddy drives a VW Golf TDI, and even in a parkade, parked
> between other cars, and idling, you'd never guess it was a diesel.
> Also, by '07, our diesel is supposed to be lower sulphur than europe's.
>
> I'd imagine the new KJ CRD is likely to be on par with these mini diesels.
>
> Paul
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > I think you are a first here. Wow!
> >
> > What country are you in?
> >
> > Our Canadian Diesel is so stinky the vehicles are no fun at all to be
> > behind on a trail so while I would welcome you to join us on an off road
> > run I would like you to bring up the rear. ;-)
> >
> > The trac loc is nice and give good traction. If you ever are on ice
> > with one rear wheel spinning from a stop, just tap the brake pedal and
> > both wheels will turn. You can do this with open diffs to, but it is
> > harder to learn.
haven't seen any.
The busses are still a killer to get stuck behind with the top down.
They haven't started cleaning the sulfur out yet I don't think.
Mike
Paul Keating wrote:
>
> Mike, The newer diesels here, like the VWs, and those MB "Smart" cars
> have catalytic convertors.....they burn CLEAN, and have very little
> smell....A buddy drives a VW Golf TDI, and even in a parkade, parked
> between other cars, and idling, you'd never guess it was a diesel.
> Also, by '07, our diesel is supposed to be lower sulphur than europe's.
>
> I'd imagine the new KJ CRD is likely to be on par with these mini diesels.
>
> Paul
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > I think you are a first here. Wow!
> >
> > What country are you in?
> >
> > Our Canadian Diesel is so stinky the vehicles are no fun at all to be
> > behind on a trail so while I would welcome you to join us on an off road
> > run I would like you to bring up the rear. ;-)
> >
> > The trac loc is nice and give good traction. If you ever are on ice
> > with one rear wheel spinning from a stop, just tap the brake pedal and
> > both wheels will turn. You can do this with open diffs to, but it is
> > harder to learn.
03-26-2005, 05:32 PM
#27
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Re: Liberty Diesel
I will maybe revise my opinion next time I have to follow one, but
haven't seen any.
The busses are still a killer to get stuck behind with the top down.
They haven't started cleaning the sulfur out yet I don't think.
Mike
Paul Keating wrote:
>
> Mike, The newer diesels here, like the VWs, and those MB "Smart" cars
> have catalytic convertors.....they burn CLEAN, and have very little
> smell....A buddy drives a VW Golf TDI, and even in a parkade, parked
> between other cars, and idling, you'd never guess it was a diesel.
> Also, by '07, our diesel is supposed to be lower sulphur than europe's.
>
> I'd imagine the new KJ CRD is likely to be on par with these mini diesels.
>
> Paul
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > I think you are a first here. Wow!
> >
> > What country are you in?
> >
> > Our Canadian Diesel is so stinky the vehicles are no fun at all to be
> > behind on a trail so while I would welcome you to join us on an off road
> > run I would like you to bring up the rear. ;-)
> >
> > The trac loc is nice and give good traction. If you ever are on ice
> > with one rear wheel spinning from a stop, just tap the brake pedal and
> > both wheels will turn. You can do this with open diffs to, but it is
> > harder to learn.
haven't seen any.
The busses are still a killer to get stuck behind with the top down.
They haven't started cleaning the sulfur out yet I don't think.
Mike
Paul Keating wrote:
>
> Mike, The newer diesels here, like the VWs, and those MB "Smart" cars
> have catalytic convertors.....they burn CLEAN, and have very little
> smell....A buddy drives a VW Golf TDI, and even in a parkade, parked
> between other cars, and idling, you'd never guess it was a diesel.
> Also, by '07, our diesel is supposed to be lower sulphur than europe's.
>
> I'd imagine the new KJ CRD is likely to be on par with these mini diesels.
>
> Paul
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > I think you are a first here. Wow!
> >
> > What country are you in?
> >
> > Our Canadian Diesel is so stinky the vehicles are no fun at all to be
> > behind on a trail so while I would welcome you to join us on an off road
> > run I would like you to bring up the rear. ;-)
> >
> > The trac loc is nice and give good traction. If you ever are on ice
> > with one rear wheel spinning from a stop, just tap the brake pedal and
> > both wheels will turn. You can do this with open diffs to, but it is
> > harder to learn.
03-26-2005, 05:32 PM
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: Liberty Diesel
I will maybe revise my opinion next time I have to follow one, but
haven't seen any.
The busses are still a killer to get stuck behind with the top down.
They haven't started cleaning the sulfur out yet I don't think.
Mike
Paul Keating wrote:
>
> Mike, The newer diesels here, like the VWs, and those MB "Smart" cars
> have catalytic convertors.....they burn CLEAN, and have very little
> smell....A buddy drives a VW Golf TDI, and even in a parkade, parked
> between other cars, and idling, you'd never guess it was a diesel.
> Also, by '07, our diesel is supposed to be lower sulphur than europe's.
>
> I'd imagine the new KJ CRD is likely to be on par with these mini diesels.
>
> Paul
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > I think you are a first here. Wow!
> >
> > What country are you in?
> >
> > Our Canadian Diesel is so stinky the vehicles are no fun at all to be
> > behind on a trail so while I would welcome you to join us on an off road
> > run I would like you to bring up the rear. ;-)
> >
> > The trac loc is nice and give good traction. If you ever are on ice
> > with one rear wheel spinning from a stop, just tap the brake pedal and
> > both wheels will turn. You can do this with open diffs to, but it is
> > harder to learn.
haven't seen any.
The busses are still a killer to get stuck behind with the top down.
They haven't started cleaning the sulfur out yet I don't think.
Mike
Paul Keating wrote:
>
> Mike, The newer diesels here, like the VWs, and those MB "Smart" cars
> have catalytic convertors.....they burn CLEAN, and have very little
> smell....A buddy drives a VW Golf TDI, and even in a parkade, parked
> between other cars, and idling, you'd never guess it was a diesel.
> Also, by '07, our diesel is supposed to be lower sulphur than europe's.
>
> I'd imagine the new KJ CRD is likely to be on par with these mini diesels.
>
> Paul
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > I think you are a first here. Wow!
> >
> > What country are you in?
> >
> > Our Canadian Diesel is so stinky the vehicles are no fun at all to be
> > behind on a trail so while I would welcome you to join us on an off road
> > run I would like you to bring up the rear. ;-)
> >
> > The trac loc is nice and give good traction. If you ever are on ice
> > with one rear wheel spinning from a stop, just tap the brake pedal and
> > both wheels will turn. You can do this with open diffs to, but it is
> > harder to learn.
03-26-2005, 06:04 PM
#29
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Re: Liberty Diesel
Busses certainly aren't the best vehicles to judge....big inefficient,
poorly maintained oil burners....Talk about environmental damage.....an
engine capable of pulling 20+ tons, running around town empty, or with
2-3 people onboard, except for rush hour.
I haven't seen one yet that a bad injector didn't cause a plume of black
smoke whenever the driver stomps on the accellerator....
Even the folks' Ford F250 Superduty is like a freakin electric car
conpared to a city bus
The VW TDI's are very difficult to tell they're diesel other than the
badge on the back.... and the turbo whine sounds a little different than
the turbo gassers.....They're maggoty on the roads around Ottawa.
They get a sweet 1000+ km per 52 liter tank, and their torque peak is
right about 100-110 km/hr in 5th gear.
I didn't even realize the MB Smart cars were diesel till I saw one at
the pump and then checked it out online to find out they only imported
the diesel version to NA.
Paul
Mike Romain wrote:
> I will maybe revise my opinion next time I have to follow one, but
> haven't seen any.
>
> The busses are still a killer to get stuck behind with the top down.
> They haven't started cleaning the sulfur out yet I don't think.
>
> Mike
>
poorly maintained oil burners....Talk about environmental damage.....an
engine capable of pulling 20+ tons, running around town empty, or with
2-3 people onboard, except for rush hour.
I haven't seen one yet that a bad injector didn't cause a plume of black
smoke whenever the driver stomps on the accellerator....
Even the folks' Ford F250 Superduty is like a freakin electric car
conpared to a city bus
The VW TDI's are very difficult to tell they're diesel other than the
badge on the back.... and the turbo whine sounds a little different than
the turbo gassers.....They're maggoty on the roads around Ottawa.
They get a sweet 1000+ km per 52 liter tank, and their torque peak is
right about 100-110 km/hr in 5th gear.
I didn't even realize the MB Smart cars were diesel till I saw one at
the pump and then checked it out online to find out they only imported
the diesel version to NA.
Paul
Mike Romain wrote:
> I will maybe revise my opinion next time I have to follow one, but
> haven't seen any.
>
> The busses are still a killer to get stuck behind with the top down.
> They haven't started cleaning the sulfur out yet I don't think.
>
> Mike
>
03-26-2005, 06:04 PM
#30
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Re: Liberty Diesel
Busses certainly aren't the best vehicles to judge....big inefficient,
poorly maintained oil burners....Talk about environmental damage.....an
engine capable of pulling 20+ tons, running around town empty, or with
2-3 people onboard, except for rush hour.
I haven't seen one yet that a bad injector didn't cause a plume of black
smoke whenever the driver stomps on the accellerator....
Even the folks' Ford F250 Superduty is like a freakin electric car
conpared to a city bus
The VW TDI's are very difficult to tell they're diesel other than the
badge on the back.... and the turbo whine sounds a little different than
the turbo gassers.....They're maggoty on the roads around Ottawa.
They get a sweet 1000+ km per 52 liter tank, and their torque peak is
right about 100-110 km/hr in 5th gear.
I didn't even realize the MB Smart cars were diesel till I saw one at
the pump and then checked it out online to find out they only imported
the diesel version to NA.
Paul
Mike Romain wrote:
> I will maybe revise my opinion next time I have to follow one, but
> haven't seen any.
>
> The busses are still a killer to get stuck behind with the top down.
> They haven't started cleaning the sulfur out yet I don't think.
>
> Mike
>
poorly maintained oil burners....Talk about environmental damage.....an
engine capable of pulling 20+ tons, running around town empty, or with
2-3 people onboard, except for rush hour.
I haven't seen one yet that a bad injector didn't cause a plume of black
smoke whenever the driver stomps on the accellerator....
Even the folks' Ford F250 Superduty is like a freakin electric car
conpared to a city bus
The VW TDI's are very difficult to tell they're diesel other than the
badge on the back.... and the turbo whine sounds a little different than
the turbo gassers.....They're maggoty on the roads around Ottawa.
They get a sweet 1000+ km per 52 liter tank, and their torque peak is
right about 100-110 km/hr in 5th gear.
I didn't even realize the MB Smart cars were diesel till I saw one at
the pump and then checked it out online to find out they only imported
the diesel version to NA.
Paul
Mike Romain wrote:
> I will maybe revise my opinion next time I have to follow one, but
> haven't seen any.
>
> The busses are still a killer to get stuck behind with the top down.
> They haven't started cleaning the sulfur out yet I don't think.
>
> Mike
>