Lemon LAW?
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lemon LAW?
Not necessarily. In Michigan, at least, the dealer/manufacturer is not required
to voluntarily buy back the vehicle, according to my experience outlined in a
previous post. It's not like you call the police if they break the lemon law.
You have to sue them to get them to do it if they don't do it voluntarily. And
MI's lemon law allows for reimbursement of attorney fees, which they collect
upon resolution of the case.
In article <bpj9um02uhl@enews3.newsguy.com>, "Jerry McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> writes:
>
>This is very bad advice. If DC is being forthcoming all he has to do is
>check his State AGs website for specifics of the state's lemon law and
>ensure they're living up to wat he's entitiled to.
>In generl the mfr must either refund the purchase price or replace the car.
>They can deduct for mileage, damage, etc.
>
>Attorneys at lemon law firms are bottom-feeders who'll do nothing for owners
>they can't do themselves. DC has no interest in losing a customer like this,
>but the attorney will just charge a very large fee for sending a form
>letter.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
to voluntarily buy back the vehicle, according to my experience outlined in a
previous post. It's not like you call the police if they break the lemon law.
You have to sue them to get them to do it if they don't do it voluntarily. And
MI's lemon law allows for reimbursement of attorney fees, which they collect
upon resolution of the case.
In article <bpj9um02uhl@enews3.newsguy.com>, "Jerry McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> writes:
>
>This is very bad advice. If DC is being forthcoming all he has to do is
>check his State AGs website for specifics of the state's lemon law and
>ensure they're living up to wat he's entitiled to.
>In generl the mfr must either refund the purchase price or replace the car.
>They can deduct for mileage, damage, etc.
>
>Attorneys at lemon law firms are bottom-feeders who'll do nothing for owners
>they can't do themselves. DC has no interest in losing a customer like this,
>but the attorney will just charge a very large fee for sending a form
>letter.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
#12
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Re: Lemon LAW?
Not necessarily. In Michigan, at least, the dealer/manufacturer is not required
to voluntarily buy back the vehicle, according to my experience outlined in a
previous post. It's not like you call the police if they break the lemon law.
You have to sue them to get them to do it if they don't do it voluntarily. And
MI's lemon law allows for reimbursement of attorney fees, which they collect
upon resolution of the case.
In article <bpj9um02uhl@enews3.newsguy.com>, "Jerry McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> writes:
>
>This is very bad advice. If DC is being forthcoming all he has to do is
>check his State AGs website for specifics of the state's lemon law and
>ensure they're living up to wat he's entitiled to.
>In generl the mfr must either refund the purchase price or replace the car.
>They can deduct for mileage, damage, etc.
>
>Attorneys at lemon law firms are bottom-feeders who'll do nothing for owners
>they can't do themselves. DC has no interest in losing a customer like this,
>but the attorney will just charge a very large fee for sending a form
>letter.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
to voluntarily buy back the vehicle, according to my experience outlined in a
previous post. It's not like you call the police if they break the lemon law.
You have to sue them to get them to do it if they don't do it voluntarily. And
MI's lemon law allows for reimbursement of attorney fees, which they collect
upon resolution of the case.
In article <bpj9um02uhl@enews3.newsguy.com>, "Jerry McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> writes:
>
>This is very bad advice. If DC is being forthcoming all he has to do is
>check his State AGs website for specifics of the state's lemon law and
>ensure they're living up to wat he's entitiled to.
>In generl the mfr must either refund the purchase price or replace the car.
>They can deduct for mileage, damage, etc.
>
>Attorneys at lemon law firms are bottom-feeders who'll do nothing for owners
>they can't do themselves. DC has no interest in losing a customer like this,
>but the attorney will just charge a very large fee for sending a form
>letter.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
#13
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Re: Lemon LAW?
Not necessarily. In Michigan, at least, the dealer/manufacturer is not required
to voluntarily buy back the vehicle, according to my experience outlined in a
previous post. It's not like you call the police if they break the lemon law.
You have to sue them to get them to do it if they don't do it voluntarily. And
MI's lemon law allows for reimbursement of attorney fees, which they collect
upon resolution of the case.
In article <bpj9um02uhl@enews3.newsguy.com>, "Jerry McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> writes:
>
>This is very bad advice. If DC is being forthcoming all he has to do is
>check his State AGs website for specifics of the state's lemon law and
>ensure they're living up to wat he's entitiled to.
>In generl the mfr must either refund the purchase price or replace the car.
>They can deduct for mileage, damage, etc.
>
>Attorneys at lemon law firms are bottom-feeders who'll do nothing for owners
>they can't do themselves. DC has no interest in losing a customer like this,
>but the attorney will just charge a very large fee for sending a form
>letter.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
to voluntarily buy back the vehicle, according to my experience outlined in a
previous post. It's not like you call the police if they break the lemon law.
You have to sue them to get them to do it if they don't do it voluntarily. And
MI's lemon law allows for reimbursement of attorney fees, which they collect
upon resolution of the case.
In article <bpj9um02uhl@enews3.newsguy.com>, "Jerry McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> writes:
>
>This is very bad advice. If DC is being forthcoming all he has to do is
>check his State AGs website for specifics of the state's lemon law and
>ensure they're living up to wat he's entitiled to.
>In generl the mfr must either refund the purchase price or replace the car.
>They can deduct for mileage, damage, etc.
>
>Attorneys at lemon law firms are bottom-feeders who'll do nothing for owners
>they can't do themselves. DC has no interest in losing a customer like this,
>but the attorney will just charge a very large fee for sending a form
>letter.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
#14
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Re: Lemon LAW?
In article <bpj11j$1iikvg$1@ID-130119.news.uni-berlin.de>, "JOE"
<joe837@hello.net> writes:
>Anyone here ever have to deal with this law when the dealer can't find the
>answer to a problem with my '02 Cherokee?I do have a file case number and
>they will look at the Jeep Monday and make a decision on what to do.If they
>decide to replace the vehicle will I have to pay anything?Please give your
>input.
Each state's lemon law might be different, but to have a lemon law case you
generally have to have had the vehicle out of service for a certain number of
days in a given time period (in Michigan it is 30 days within the first year of
ownership) or have had a certain number of failed attempts of the same repair
(in MI it's 4 attempts). The damages awarded also differ from state to state,
some allow for everything you paid for the car plus attorney's fees, some allow
for a "depreciation deduction" in the reimbursement allowance.
I'm dealing with the Michigan Lemon Law with my wife's '03 Honda Odyessy. Major
oil leak right off the lot, the third time it was brought in (had 800 miles on
the odo) they replaced the shortblock. Still leaked, probably from main seal on
the new shortblock. It was out of service a total of 32 days in the first two
months we leased it. (MI's law includes leased as well as purchased vehicles.)
This was last March/April, and we're in the settlement negotiation phase now.
It does take a long time, you have to have patience.
A couple things to remember when invoking your state's lemon law:
(1) DO NOT solicit lemon law advice from the dealership. Don't even ask them if
they think you'd have a lemon law case. What do you think they will tell you?
Most lemon law attorneys offer a free consultation.
(2) If you go ahead with filing suit, you must continue to make your payments
until the matter is settled, even if it is undrivable. If you can use it, you
have to continue to carry insurance on it as well, though if it's parked
because of the defect I don't know if you'd need to carry full coverage. Ask
your attorney.
Here''s a link to a lemon law referral service that may be helpful.
http://www.lemonauto.com/
You could also do a Web search of "(your state) lemon law," I guarantee you
will find an attorney who specializes. You could also visit your state's
attorney general website for information on your state's Lemon Law as well.
Good luck
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<joe837@hello.net> writes:
>Anyone here ever have to deal with this law when the dealer can't find the
>answer to a problem with my '02 Cherokee?I do have a file case number and
>they will look at the Jeep Monday and make a decision on what to do.If they
>decide to replace the vehicle will I have to pay anything?Please give your
>input.
Each state's lemon law might be different, but to have a lemon law case you
generally have to have had the vehicle out of service for a certain number of
days in a given time period (in Michigan it is 30 days within the first year of
ownership) or have had a certain number of failed attempts of the same repair
(in MI it's 4 attempts). The damages awarded also differ from state to state,
some allow for everything you paid for the car plus attorney's fees, some allow
for a "depreciation deduction" in the reimbursement allowance.
I'm dealing with the Michigan Lemon Law with my wife's '03 Honda Odyessy. Major
oil leak right off the lot, the third time it was brought in (had 800 miles on
the odo) they replaced the shortblock. Still leaked, probably from main seal on
the new shortblock. It was out of service a total of 32 days in the first two
months we leased it. (MI's law includes leased as well as purchased vehicles.)
This was last March/April, and we're in the settlement negotiation phase now.
It does take a long time, you have to have patience.
A couple things to remember when invoking your state's lemon law:
(1) DO NOT solicit lemon law advice from the dealership. Don't even ask them if
they think you'd have a lemon law case. What do you think they will tell you?
Most lemon law attorneys offer a free consultation.
(2) If you go ahead with filing suit, you must continue to make your payments
until the matter is settled, even if it is undrivable. If you can use it, you
have to continue to carry insurance on it as well, though if it's parked
because of the defect I don't know if you'd need to carry full coverage. Ask
your attorney.
Here''s a link to a lemon law referral service that may be helpful.
http://www.lemonauto.com/
You could also do a Web search of "(your state) lemon law," I guarantee you
will find an attorney who specializes. You could also visit your state's
attorney general website for information on your state's Lemon Law as well.
Good luck
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
#15
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Re: Lemon LAW?
In article <bpj11j$1iikvg$1@ID-130119.news.uni-berlin.de>, "JOE"
<joe837@hello.net> writes:
>Anyone here ever have to deal with this law when the dealer can't find the
>answer to a problem with my '02 Cherokee?I do have a file case number and
>they will look at the Jeep Monday and make a decision on what to do.If they
>decide to replace the vehicle will I have to pay anything?Please give your
>input.
Each state's lemon law might be different, but to have a lemon law case you
generally have to have had the vehicle out of service for a certain number of
days in a given time period (in Michigan it is 30 days within the first year of
ownership) or have had a certain number of failed attempts of the same repair
(in MI it's 4 attempts). The damages awarded also differ from state to state,
some allow for everything you paid for the car plus attorney's fees, some allow
for a "depreciation deduction" in the reimbursement allowance.
I'm dealing with the Michigan Lemon Law with my wife's '03 Honda Odyessy. Major
oil leak right off the lot, the third time it was brought in (had 800 miles on
the odo) they replaced the shortblock. Still leaked, probably from main seal on
the new shortblock. It was out of service a total of 32 days in the first two
months we leased it. (MI's law includes leased as well as purchased vehicles.)
This was last March/April, and we're in the settlement negotiation phase now.
It does take a long time, you have to have patience.
A couple things to remember when invoking your state's lemon law:
(1) DO NOT solicit lemon law advice from the dealership. Don't even ask them if
they think you'd have a lemon law case. What do you think they will tell you?
Most lemon law attorneys offer a free consultation.
(2) If you go ahead with filing suit, you must continue to make your payments
until the matter is settled, even if it is undrivable. If you can use it, you
have to continue to carry insurance on it as well, though if it's parked
because of the defect I don't know if you'd need to carry full coverage. Ask
your attorney.
Here''s a link to a lemon law referral service that may be helpful.
http://www.lemonauto.com/
You could also do a Web search of "(your state) lemon law," I guarantee you
will find an attorney who specializes. You could also visit your state's
attorney general website for information on your state's Lemon Law as well.
Good luck
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<joe837@hello.net> writes:
>Anyone here ever have to deal with this law when the dealer can't find the
>answer to a problem with my '02 Cherokee?I do have a file case number and
>they will look at the Jeep Monday and make a decision on what to do.If they
>decide to replace the vehicle will I have to pay anything?Please give your
>input.
Each state's lemon law might be different, but to have a lemon law case you
generally have to have had the vehicle out of service for a certain number of
days in a given time period (in Michigan it is 30 days within the first year of
ownership) or have had a certain number of failed attempts of the same repair
(in MI it's 4 attempts). The damages awarded also differ from state to state,
some allow for everything you paid for the car plus attorney's fees, some allow
for a "depreciation deduction" in the reimbursement allowance.
I'm dealing with the Michigan Lemon Law with my wife's '03 Honda Odyessy. Major
oil leak right off the lot, the third time it was brought in (had 800 miles on
the odo) they replaced the shortblock. Still leaked, probably from main seal on
the new shortblock. It was out of service a total of 32 days in the first two
months we leased it. (MI's law includes leased as well as purchased vehicles.)
This was last March/April, and we're in the settlement negotiation phase now.
It does take a long time, you have to have patience.
A couple things to remember when invoking your state's lemon law:
(1) DO NOT solicit lemon law advice from the dealership. Don't even ask them if
they think you'd have a lemon law case. What do you think they will tell you?
Most lemon law attorneys offer a free consultation.
(2) If you go ahead with filing suit, you must continue to make your payments
until the matter is settled, even if it is undrivable. If you can use it, you
have to continue to carry insurance on it as well, though if it's parked
because of the defect I don't know if you'd need to carry full coverage. Ask
your attorney.
Here''s a link to a lemon law referral service that may be helpful.
http://www.lemonauto.com/
You could also do a Web search of "(your state) lemon law," I guarantee you
will find an attorney who specializes. You could also visit your state's
attorney general website for information on your state's Lemon Law as well.
Good luck
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
#16
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Re: Lemon LAW?
In article <bpj11j$1iikvg$1@ID-130119.news.uni-berlin.de>, "JOE"
<joe837@hello.net> writes:
>Anyone here ever have to deal with this law when the dealer can't find the
>answer to a problem with my '02 Cherokee?I do have a file case number and
>they will look at the Jeep Monday and make a decision on what to do.If they
>decide to replace the vehicle will I have to pay anything?Please give your
>input.
Each state's lemon law might be different, but to have a lemon law case you
generally have to have had the vehicle out of service for a certain number of
days in a given time period (in Michigan it is 30 days within the first year of
ownership) or have had a certain number of failed attempts of the same repair
(in MI it's 4 attempts). The damages awarded also differ from state to state,
some allow for everything you paid for the car plus attorney's fees, some allow
for a "depreciation deduction" in the reimbursement allowance.
I'm dealing with the Michigan Lemon Law with my wife's '03 Honda Odyessy. Major
oil leak right off the lot, the third time it was brought in (had 800 miles on
the odo) they replaced the shortblock. Still leaked, probably from main seal on
the new shortblock. It was out of service a total of 32 days in the first two
months we leased it. (MI's law includes leased as well as purchased vehicles.)
This was last March/April, and we're in the settlement negotiation phase now.
It does take a long time, you have to have patience.
A couple things to remember when invoking your state's lemon law:
(1) DO NOT solicit lemon law advice from the dealership. Don't even ask them if
they think you'd have a lemon law case. What do you think they will tell you?
Most lemon law attorneys offer a free consultation.
(2) If you go ahead with filing suit, you must continue to make your payments
until the matter is settled, even if it is undrivable. If you can use it, you
have to continue to carry insurance on it as well, though if it's parked
because of the defect I don't know if you'd need to carry full coverage. Ask
your attorney.
Here''s a link to a lemon law referral service that may be helpful.
http://www.lemonauto.com/
You could also do a Web search of "(your state) lemon law," I guarantee you
will find an attorney who specializes. You could also visit your state's
attorney general website for information on your state's Lemon Law as well.
Good luck
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<joe837@hello.net> writes:
>Anyone here ever have to deal with this law when the dealer can't find the
>answer to a problem with my '02 Cherokee?I do have a file case number and
>they will look at the Jeep Monday and make a decision on what to do.If they
>decide to replace the vehicle will I have to pay anything?Please give your
>input.
Each state's lemon law might be different, but to have a lemon law case you
generally have to have had the vehicle out of service for a certain number of
days in a given time period (in Michigan it is 30 days within the first year of
ownership) or have had a certain number of failed attempts of the same repair
(in MI it's 4 attempts). The damages awarded also differ from state to state,
some allow for everything you paid for the car plus attorney's fees, some allow
for a "depreciation deduction" in the reimbursement allowance.
I'm dealing with the Michigan Lemon Law with my wife's '03 Honda Odyessy. Major
oil leak right off the lot, the third time it was brought in (had 800 miles on
the odo) they replaced the shortblock. Still leaked, probably from main seal on
the new shortblock. It was out of service a total of 32 days in the first two
months we leased it. (MI's law includes leased as well as purchased vehicles.)
This was last March/April, and we're in the settlement negotiation phase now.
It does take a long time, you have to have patience.
A couple things to remember when invoking your state's lemon law:
(1) DO NOT solicit lemon law advice from the dealership. Don't even ask them if
they think you'd have a lemon law case. What do you think they will tell you?
Most lemon law attorneys offer a free consultation.
(2) If you go ahead with filing suit, you must continue to make your payments
until the matter is settled, even if it is undrivable. If you can use it, you
have to continue to carry insurance on it as well, though if it's parked
because of the defect I don't know if you'd need to carry full coverage. Ask
your attorney.
Here''s a link to a lemon law referral service that may be helpful.
http://www.lemonauto.com/
You could also do a Web search of "(your state) lemon law," I guarantee you
will find an attorney who specializes. You could also visit your state's
attorney general website for information on your state's Lemon Law as well.
Good luck
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
#20
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Re: Lemon LAW?
Ok, I gotta ask....
What 'is' the problem?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JOE wrote:
>
> Anyone here ever have to deal with this law when the dealer can't find the
> answer to a problem with my '02 Cherokee?I do have a file case number and
> they will look at the Jeep Monday and make a decision on what to do.If they
> decide to replace the vehicle will I have to pay anything?Please give your
> input.
What 'is' the problem?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JOE wrote:
>
> Anyone here ever have to deal with this law when the dealer can't find the
> answer to a problem with my '02 Cherokee?I do have a file case number and
> they will look at the Jeep Monday and make a decision on what to do.If they
> decide to replace the vehicle will I have to pay anything?Please give your
> input.