Also, if I want to make sure my injectors are performing correctly, what
methodologies are used to test injectors? If I want to test injectors what
kind of place should I contact to make sure they are working?

You are giving me theories to the gas wash and it's helpful but you also
know my state of understanding, please extend the information by letting me
know what methodologies would provide a satisfactory result.


Thanks,

Bill




"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2hk8r0Fe0rd4U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Mike
> What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
>
> They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
>
> Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> they do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > Holy crap man!
> >
> > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > the system!
> >
> > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> >
> > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > mix besides an emissions machine....
> >
> > Man oh man....
> >
> > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> >
> > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > have been spot on for mix.
> >
> > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> >
> > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> >
> > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > balances....
> >
> > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to
10
> > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > >
> > > Here's the site:
> > >
> > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > >
> > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > >
> > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> work or
> > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
>
>

 

Also, if I want to make sure my injectors are performing correctly, what
methodologies are used to test injectors? If I want to test injectors what
kind of place should I contact to make sure they are working?

You are giving me theories to the gas wash and it's helpful but you also
know my state of understanding, please extend the information by letting me
know what methodologies would provide a satisfactory result.


Thanks,

Bill




"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2hk8r0Fe0rd4U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Mike
> What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
>
> They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
>
> Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> they do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > Holy crap man!
> >
> > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > the system!
> >
> > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> >
> > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > mix besides an emissions machine....
> >
> > Man oh man....
> >
> > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> >
> > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > have been spot on for mix.
> >
> > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> >
> > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> >
> > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > balances....
> >
> > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to
10
> > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > >
> > > Here's the site:
> > >
> > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > >
> > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > >
> > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> work or
> > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
>
>

 

Also, if I want to make sure my injectors are performing correctly, what
methodologies are used to test injectors? If I want to test injectors what
kind of place should I contact to make sure they are working?

You are giving me theories to the gas wash and it's helpful but you also
know my state of understanding, please extend the information by letting me
know what methodologies would provide a satisfactory result.


Thanks,

Bill




"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2hk8r0Fe0rd4U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Mike
> What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
>
> They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
>
> Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> they do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > Holy crap man!
> >
> > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > the system!
> >
> > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> >
> > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > mix besides an emissions machine....
> >
> > Man oh man....
> >
> > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> >
> > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > have been spot on for mix.
> >
> > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> >
> > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> >
> > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > balances....
> >
> > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to
10
> > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > >
> > > Here's the site:
> > >
> > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > >
> > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > >
> > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> work or
> > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
>
>

 

There are others here likely more qualified to answer that Bill, but a
couple things come to mind.

First off is you don't need the silly dyno to make an engine run right.
Nobody had dynos before emissions testing, gee I wonder how we made then
run back then.

That is something like a Dentist coming after you with a camera to show
off the before and after as he takes your first born for the teeth
work... (the local newspaper did an article and said when you see the
dentist coming with a camera, run fast unless you just won the lottery)

Each cylinder needs to be monitored as well as the O2 sensor.

Injector Pulse timing, fuel pressure and maybe flow rate, spark quality
(strength), exhaust temp at the manifold are some things.

Those are just guesses, others likely know.

The rough emissions testing is just fine for a carb, which is that
shop's specialty, but even that can be done just fine static by rpm
instead of with the tires turning.

I have had emissions done static, followed immediately by the dyno test
and the engine read almost exactly the same.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Mike
> What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
>
> They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
>
> Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> they do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > Holy crap man!
> >
> > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > the system!
> >
> > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> >
> > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > mix besides an emissions machine....
> >
> > Man oh man....
> >
> > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> >
> > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > have been spot on for mix.
> >
> > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> >
> > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> >
> > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > balances....
> >
> > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > >
> > > Here's the site:
> > >
> > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > >
> > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > >
> > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> work or
> > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?

 

There are others here likely more qualified to answer that Bill, but a
couple things come to mind.

First off is you don't need the silly dyno to make an engine run right.
Nobody had dynos before emissions testing, gee I wonder how we made then
run back then.

That is something like a Dentist coming after you with a camera to show
off the before and after as he takes your first born for the teeth
work... (the local newspaper did an article and said when you see the
dentist coming with a camera, run fast unless you just won the lottery)

Each cylinder needs to be monitored as well as the O2 sensor.

Injector Pulse timing, fuel pressure and maybe flow rate, spark quality
(strength), exhaust temp at the manifold are some things.

Those are just guesses, others likely know.

The rough emissions testing is just fine for a carb, which is that
shop's specialty, but even that can be done just fine static by rpm
instead of with the tires turning.

I have had emissions done static, followed immediately by the dyno test
and the engine read almost exactly the same.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Mike
> What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
>
> They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
>
> Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> they do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > Holy crap man!
> >
> > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > the system!
> >
> > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> >
> > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > mix besides an emissions machine....
> >
> > Man oh man....
> >
> > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> >
> > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > have been spot on for mix.
> >
> > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> >
> > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> >
> > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > balances....
> >
> > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > >
> > > Here's the site:
> > >
> > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > >
> > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > >
> > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> work or
> > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?

 

There are others here likely more qualified to answer that Bill, but a
couple things come to mind.

First off is you don't need the silly dyno to make an engine run right.
Nobody had dynos before emissions testing, gee I wonder how we made then
run back then.

That is something like a Dentist coming after you with a camera to show
off the before and after as he takes your first born for the teeth
work... (the local newspaper did an article and said when you see the
dentist coming with a camera, run fast unless you just won the lottery)

Each cylinder needs to be monitored as well as the O2 sensor.

Injector Pulse timing, fuel pressure and maybe flow rate, spark quality
(strength), exhaust temp at the manifold are some things.

Those are just guesses, others likely know.

The rough emissions testing is just fine for a carb, which is that
shop's specialty, but even that can be done just fine static by rpm
instead of with the tires turning.

I have had emissions done static, followed immediately by the dyno test
and the engine read almost exactly the same.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Mike
> What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
>
> They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
>
> Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> they do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > Holy crap man!
> >
> > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > the system!
> >
> > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> >
> > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > mix besides an emissions machine....
> >
> > Man oh man....
> >
> > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> >
> > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > have been spot on for mix.
> >
> > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> >
> > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> >
> > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > balances....
> >
> > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > >
> > > Here's the site:
> > >
> > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > >
> > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > >
> > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> work or
> > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?

 

There are others here likely more qualified to answer that Bill, but a
couple things come to mind.

First off is you don't need the silly dyno to make an engine run right.
Nobody had dynos before emissions testing, gee I wonder how we made then
run back then.

That is something like a Dentist coming after you with a camera to show
off the before and after as he takes your first born for the teeth
work... (the local newspaper did an article and said when you see the
dentist coming with a camera, run fast unless you just won the lottery)

Each cylinder needs to be monitored as well as the O2 sensor.

Injector Pulse timing, fuel pressure and maybe flow rate, spark quality
(strength), exhaust temp at the manifold are some things.

Those are just guesses, others likely know.

The rough emissions testing is just fine for a carb, which is that
shop's specialty, but even that can be done just fine static by rpm
instead of with the tires turning.

I have had emissions done static, followed immediately by the dyno test
and the engine read almost exactly the same.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Mike
> What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
>
> They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
>
> Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> they do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > Holy crap man!
> >
> > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > the system!
> >
> > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> >
> > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > mix besides an emissions machine....
> >
> > Man oh man....
> >
> > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> >
> > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > have been spot on for mix.
> >
> > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> >
> > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> >
> > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > balances....
> >
> > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to 10
> > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > >
> > > Here's the site:
> > >
> > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > >
> > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > >
> > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> work or
> > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?

 

I would be wanting to read the pulses on a scope. The pulse timing
shows if everything electrical is working. Like below, if 5 are short
and the last one is long or no pulse or pulsing at the wrong time, etc.

At the same time I would be wanting to see the spark strength.

I would then be watching the leak down very closely when shut off to
eliminate dirt holding an injector open.

Didn't you have carb issues before putting the injection on with
flooding?

Your damage could have happened then.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Also, if I want to make sure my injectors are performing correctly, what
> methodologies are used to test injectors? If I want to test injectors what
> kind of place should I contact to make sure they are working?
>
> You are giving me theories to the gas wash and it's helpful but you also
> know my state of understanding, please extend the information by letting me
> know what methodologies would provide a satisfactory result.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:2hk8r0Fe0rd4U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Mike
> > What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> > attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
> >
> > They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> > chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
> >
> > Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> > they do?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > > Holy crap man!
> > >
> > > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > > the system!
> > >
> > > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> > >
> > > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > > mix besides an emissions machine....
> > >
> > > Man oh man....
> > >
> > > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> > >
> > > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > > have been spot on for mix.
> > >
> > > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> > >
> > > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> > >
> > > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > > balances....
> > >
> > > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to
> 10
> > > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the site:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > > >
> > > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > > >
> > > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> > work or
> > > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
> >
> >

 

I would be wanting to read the pulses on a scope. The pulse timing
shows if everything electrical is working. Like below, if 5 are short
and the last one is long or no pulse or pulsing at the wrong time, etc.

At the same time I would be wanting to see the spark strength.

I would then be watching the leak down very closely when shut off to
eliminate dirt holding an injector open.

Didn't you have carb issues before putting the injection on with
flooding?

Your damage could have happened then.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Also, if I want to make sure my injectors are performing correctly, what
> methodologies are used to test injectors? If I want to test injectors what
> kind of place should I contact to make sure they are working?
>
> You are giving me theories to the gas wash and it's helpful but you also
> know my state of understanding, please extend the information by letting me
> know what methodologies would provide a satisfactory result.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:2hk8r0Fe0rd4U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Mike
> > What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> > attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
> >
> > They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> > chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
> >
> > Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> > they do?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > > Holy crap man!
> > >
> > > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > > the system!
> > >
> > > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> > >
> > > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > > mix besides an emissions machine....
> > >
> > > Man oh man....
> > >
> > > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> > >
> > > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > > have been spot on for mix.
> > >
> > > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> > >
> > > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> > >
> > > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > > balances....
> > >
> > > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to
> 10
> > > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the site:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > > >
> > > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > > >
> > > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> > work or
> > > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
> >
> >

 

I would be wanting to read the pulses on a scope. The pulse timing
shows if everything electrical is working. Like below, if 5 are short
and the last one is long or no pulse or pulsing at the wrong time, etc.

At the same time I would be wanting to see the spark strength.

I would then be watching the leak down very closely when shut off to
eliminate dirt holding an injector open.

Didn't you have carb issues before putting the injection on with
flooding?

Your damage could have happened then.

Mike

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Also, if I want to make sure my injectors are performing correctly, what
> methodologies are used to test injectors? If I want to test injectors what
> kind of place should I contact to make sure they are working?
>
> You are giving me theories to the gas wash and it's helpful but you also
> know my state of understanding, please extend the information by letting me
> know what methodologies would provide a satisfactory result.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:2hk8r0Fe0rd4U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Mike
> > What would consist of a 'proper' dyno including the type of equipment
> > attached to the dyno. Educate me here.
> >
> > They have a Chassie dyno, is there other equipment that can be attach to a
> > chassie dyno which measures air/fuel ratio?
> >
> > Tell me for what to look for in a dyno reading. What should I make sure
> > they do?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40B4E4DC.7DFE43B7@sympatico.ca...
> > > Holy crap man!
> > >
> > > They can do 'anything' and are especially good at mix settings no matter
> > > the system!
> > >
> > > We will put it on our Dyno and get the air fuel 'just' right!
> > >
> > > With no machines in the freaking garage that can actually 'measure' the
> > > mix besides an emissions machine....
> > >
> > > Man oh man....
> > >
> > > Suffice it to say you didn't really get anything useful out of that
> > > because they couldn't even properly dyno it.....
> > >
> > > Now if you still had the Carter BBD on her, then these guys would likely
> > > have been spot on for mix.
> > >
> > > The problem with a tail pipe test on injection is the O2 can be seeing a
> > > nasty rich every 6th hit so it tells the injection to run full lean.
> > >
> > > So you have 5 cylinders running full lean with one still spitting black
> > > ---- at the O2 and the O2 will hold her lean.
> > >
> > > What comes out the tail pipe can still be just fine if the above
> > > balances....
> > >
> > > I would just be keeping an eye on my plugs.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't know Mike. I just know they have a shop (equivilant to 8 to
> 10
> > > > bays?) filled with muscle cars with experience back into the 60s.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the site:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.superiorautomotive.com/default.htm
> > > >
> > > > These people are not cheap either. Cost me 150.00 for the dyno with
> > > > Air/Fuel readings.
> > > >
> > > > It appears there's no one in Southern California who can do reliable
> > work or
> > > > I just have a knack for finding the bad ones?
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > > Bill, where do you find these people to keep taking your money?
> >
> >