Re: Jeep Toad
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Yes but mu point that you missed was any CJ-5 in his price range is going to
> need a lot more REPAIR, not UPGRADE, than something newer.

Bill didn't miss the point, he selects arbitrary (and usually
irrelivant) points to suit the link he's posting or to get away from the
fact that he has just been schooled but can't accept it.

Case in point he mentioned Semi trucks have drum brakes... which is so
utterly irrelivant that he might as well have said his 1935 soap box
racer he made in his youth, had rubber sneaker drag brakes.

If you mention that a boxed frame Jeep has more strength and rigidity he
will ALWAYS say that Semi tractors have open C channel frames, he has no
clue WHY! If he had a clue he wouldn't mention that they have C-channel,
frames because he would realize he was defeating his own argument.

(PS. Semi's have open channel frames because they NEED TO FLEX! to
handle up to 80,000 pound loads, they are DESIGNED to be flexible in a
predictable and consistent manner).

If you mention Coil springs he will mention Semi's and heavy tow and
vehicles have leafs... apearently believeing that towing capacity
equates to off road prowess.

Basically Bill stopped believing in reality about 30 years ago but he
hasn't let that stop him from being an opinionated old kook. Who thinks
that anything new is inferior (including fuel injection... because 1500
Horse power top fuel dragsters use carburetors!!!)

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: Jeep Toad
 

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> CJ-5 came with V8, and heave duty everything. Why do you think it
> needs to be up graded???? And unless you don't know how to use your
> brakes, and treat the city streets like a road race slalom, then you
> don't need disk brakes, notice like all commercial trucks use drums!
> Maybe your jealously will allow you to look at a sixties AMC
> horsepower: http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg

Do you really think a 30 year old AMC v8 is putting out those numbers at
the wheels?

Did the point completely zip past that rigid old mind of yours? Or are
you intentionally playing stupid?

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: Jeep Toad
 

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> CJ-5 came with V8, and heave duty everything. Why do you think it
> needs to be up graded???? And unless you don't know how to use your
> brakes, and treat the city streets like a road race slalom, then you
> don't need disk brakes, notice like all commercial trucks use drums!
> Maybe your jealously will allow you to look at a sixties AMC
> horsepower: http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg

Do you really think a 30 year old AMC v8 is putting out those numbers at
the wheels?

Did the point completely zip past that rigid old mind of yours? Or are
you intentionally playing stupid?

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: Jeep Toad
 

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> CJ-5 came with V8, and heave duty everything. Why do you think it
> needs to be up graded???? And unless you don't know how to use your
> brakes, and treat the city streets like a road race slalom, then you
> don't need disk brakes, notice like all commercial trucks use drums!
> Maybe your jealously will allow you to look at a sixties AMC
> horsepower: http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg

Do you really think a 30 year old AMC v8 is putting out those numbers at
the wheels?

Did the point completely zip past that rigid old mind of yours? Or are
you intentionally playing stupid?

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: Jeep Toad
 

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:w9KdnZCkbtmyh2HZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Yes but mu point that you missed was any CJ-5 in his price range is going
>> to need a lot more REPAIR, not UPGRADE, than something newer.
>
> Bill didn't miss the point, he selects arbitrary (and usually irrelivant)
> points to suit the link he's posting or to get away from the fact that he
> has just been schooled but can't accept it.
>
You don't have to remind me, Simon... :-)

Re: Jeep Toad
 

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:w9KdnZCkbtmyh2HZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Yes but mu point that you missed was any CJ-5 in his price range is going
>> to need a lot more REPAIR, not UPGRADE, than something newer.
>
> Bill didn't miss the point, he selects arbitrary (and usually irrelivant)
> points to suit the link he's posting or to get away from the fact that he
> has just been schooled but can't accept it.
>
You don't have to remind me, Simon... :-)

Re: Jeep Toad
 

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:w9KdnZCkbtmyh2HZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Yes but mu point that you missed was any CJ-5 in his price range is going
>> to need a lot more REPAIR, not UPGRADE, than something newer.
>
> Bill didn't miss the point, he selects arbitrary (and usually irrelivant)
> points to suit the link he's posting or to get away from the fact that he
> has just been schooled but can't accept it.
>
You don't have to remind me, Simon... :-)

Re: Jeep Toad
 

Cherokee will be your best bet.

and for the SECOND time.. Liberty = Libby
pay attention or I'll have to smack you.

*weg*

Kate


"BuntRVer" <BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
news:BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com...
>
> So, after much consternation, what is the consensus? Cherokee , CJ5 or
> Libby (whatever that is).
> I vote for Cherokee. The six banger is the preferred engine, yes?
> What would be an appropriate price to pay if all systems are working
> and the tires are useable?
>
>
>
>
> --
> BuntRVer

Re: Jeep Toad
 

Cherokee will be your best bet.

and for the SECOND time.. Liberty = Libby
pay attention or I'll have to smack you.

*weg*

Kate


"BuntRVer" <BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
news:BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com...
>
> So, after much consternation, what is the consensus? Cherokee , CJ5 or
> Libby (whatever that is).
> I vote for Cherokee. The six banger is the preferred engine, yes?
> What would be an appropriate price to pay if all systems are working
> and the tires are useable?
>
>
>
>
> --
> BuntRVer

Re: Jeep Toad
 

Cherokee will be your best bet.

and for the SECOND time.. Liberty = Libby
pay attention or I'll have to smack you.

*weg*

Kate


"BuntRVer" <BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
news:BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com...
>
> So, after much consternation, what is the consensus? Cherokee , CJ5 or
> Libby (whatever that is).
> I vote for Cherokee. The six banger is the preferred engine, yes?
> What would be an appropriate price to pay if all systems are working
> and the tires are useable?
>
>
>
>
> --
> BuntRVer