billy ray

I wouldn't think a motorcycle would affect the front end much.


"BuntRVer" <BuntRVer.2dobqf@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
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>
> How would I mount a motorcycle on a Cherokee? It seems to me that a
> hitch-mount would make the rigs' front tires a little too light on the
> road and cause some wobble or walking when being towed. The Bultaco
> weighs in at 200 pounds plus the hitch rack, call it 300 total
> torque/couple/leverage/moment(thats the word) 12 inchs out passed the
> receiver face. Multiplied by the short wheelbase would cause a lifting
> of the front end. Right?
>
> Does this make the Wrangler a better choice with the bike mounted UP on
> the back seat or where ever?
>
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo Wrote:
>> Jeep Liberty (Libby) is a relatively new model and the prices probably
>> haven't come down to where you are looking. And there is a huge problem
>> with
>> the front ball joints as well.
>>
>> You won't see a CJ-5 in your price range that won't need a lot of
>> repairs &
>> restoration. You can get a fully restored one for something in the
>> neightborhood of $10K +, a drivevale but rusty one for $5K-10K and a
>> barely
>> running (if at all) project vehicle for 2K-5K. None of this will
>> include
>> your chiropractor's bill for your lower back. The transfer cases on
>> some
>> also aren't ideal for flat-towing.
>>
>> The Cherolee's depending on the years will set you back say 3-4K for a
>>
>> mid-90's and up, newer models of course would go for more. Most of them
>> had
>> the 6-cyl but the fours are out there. It would be a good choice for an
>>
>> all-around utility vehcle. Look for one with a Command Trac part-time
>> transfer case, it will keep purchase cost down and it's simpler than
>> the
>> full-time cases, so lesss to go wrong. Also, some full time 'cases may
>> be
>> without a Neutral position, (but that might apply only to the Grand
>> Cherokee) and you would want to avoid those, it will make it difficult
>> to
>> tow. To tow you would put the tranny in gear or Park, the T case in
>> Neutral,
>> ignition key unlocked. Look for rust under the front floorboards.
>>
>> For a more fun vehicle you might look at a 90's and up Wrangler, in 97
>> there
>> was a major redesign that provides a better ride and off-road
>> capability.
>> Also they would be slightly easier to set up for flat towing since the
>> front
>> bumper is flat and easily accommodates towbar tabs, where the
>> Cherokee's
>> unibody will requires some additional effort to install towbar tabs.
>> That
>> and you can put the top down on a beautiful day! A Wrangler in stock
>> for is
>> actually a little heavier than the Cherokee, since it is a
>> body-on-frame,
>> but most RV's won't know the difference.
>>
>> "BuntRVer" BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com wrote in message
>> news:BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com...-
>>
>> So, after much consternation, what is the consensus? Cherokee , CJ5
>> or
>> Libby (whatever that is).
>> I vote for Cherokee. The six banger is the preferred engine, yes?
>> What would be an appropriate price to pay if all systems are working
>> and the tires are useable?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> BuntRVer -
>
>
>
>
> --
> BuntRVer

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Last time I added two and two, a couple hundred doesn't equal
millions.
Sponsored racers use K&N filters too. Do I have to tell you
why?????? I bet the fact that an event is sponsor by Skyjacker wouldn't
give you a clue:
http://rock.off-road.com/rock/articl....jsp?id=205029
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Jeeps must have off road ability and last a couple hundred k miles...
> But I know you don't get it... The facts are plain to anyone who's not
> completely out of touch... I wonder if you would try to sell a Baja
> driver or pro Rock crawler on Leafs by telling them that Semi's have
> them... The fact that there are professional racers who stand to make
> MONEY by WINNING who have all by in large chucked their leaf springs for
> Coils should tell you _something_. But no one and nothing can tell you
> ANYTHING. Parnelli Jones and Ivan Stawart could tell you you are totally
> wrong and you would tell them they don't know anything!
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Last time I added two and two, a couple hundred doesn't equal
millions.
Sponsored racers use K&N filters too. Do I have to tell you
why?????? I bet the fact that an event is sponsor by Skyjacker wouldn't
give you a clue:
http://rock.off-road.com/rock/articl....jsp?id=205029
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Jeeps must have off road ability and last a couple hundred k miles...
> But I know you don't get it... The facts are plain to anyone who's not
> completely out of touch... I wonder if you would try to sell a Baja
> driver or pro Rock crawler on Leafs by telling them that Semi's have
> them... The fact that there are professional racers who stand to make
> MONEY by WINNING who have all by in large chucked their leaf springs for
> Coils should tell you _something_. But no one and nothing can tell you
> ANYTHING. Parnelli Jones and Ivan Stawart could tell you you are totally
> wrong and you would tell them they don't know anything!
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Last time I added two and two, a couple hundred doesn't equal
millions.
Sponsored racers use K&N filters too. Do I have to tell you
why?????? I bet the fact that an event is sponsor by Skyjacker wouldn't
give you a clue:
http://rock.off-road.com/rock/articl....jsp?id=205029
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Jeeps must have off road ability and last a couple hundred k miles...
> But I know you don't get it... The facts are plain to anyone who's not
> completely out of touch... I wonder if you would try to sell a Baja
> driver or pro Rock crawler on Leafs by telling them that Semi's have
> them... The fact that there are professional racers who stand to make
> MONEY by WINNING who have all by in large chucked their leaf springs for
> Coils should tell you _something_. But no one and nothing can tell you
> ANYTHING. Parnelli Jones and Ivan Stawart could tell you you are totally
> wrong and you would tell them they don't know anything!
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

If you keep your eyes and ears open you may find a muscle car
engine from the sixties for a couple hundred bucks. Of course you must
be mechanically incline, like the poster that knows he must lay his
Bultaco on it side in order to start it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
>
> The ignorance and stupidity here is someone not remembering the subject
> of this thread... Do you really think a 1000hp AMC 8 would be cheap? Do
> you think a couple traveling around in an RV have the shop and resources
> to build it?
>
> We're talking about 30 year old "cheap" CJ5's to tow behind a freakin RV
> let me emphasise "CHEAP!" NOT YOUR delusions. Try for once to get at
> least a loose gasp on what we're talking about here would you?
>
> --
> Simon

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

If you keep your eyes and ears open you may find a muscle car
engine from the sixties for a couple hundred bucks. Of course you must
be mechanically incline, like the poster that knows he must lay his
Bultaco on it side in order to start it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
>
> The ignorance and stupidity here is someone not remembering the subject
> of this thread... Do you really think a 1000hp AMC 8 would be cheap? Do
> you think a couple traveling around in an RV have the shop and resources
> to build it?
>
> We're talking about 30 year old "cheap" CJ5's to tow behind a freakin RV
> let me emphasise "CHEAP!" NOT YOUR delusions. Try for once to get at
> least a loose gasp on what we're talking about here would you?
>
> --
> Simon

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

If you keep your eyes and ears open you may find a muscle car
engine from the sixties for a couple hundred bucks. Of course you must
be mechanically incline, like the poster that knows he must lay his
Bultaco on it side in order to start it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
>
> The ignorance and stupidity here is someone not remembering the subject
> of this thread... Do you really think a 1000hp AMC 8 would be cheap? Do
> you think a couple traveling around in an RV have the shop and resources
> to build it?
>
> We're talking about 30 year old "cheap" CJ5's to tow behind a freakin RV
> let me emphasise "CHEAP!" NOT YOUR delusions. Try for once to get at
> least a loose gasp on what we're talking about here would you?
>
> --
> Simon

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

No problem, just don't put your Mother-in-law on the tail gate too.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

BuntRVer wrote:
>
> How would I mount a motorcycle on a Cherokee? It seems to me that a
> hitch-mount would make the rigs' front tires a little too light on the
> road and cause some wobble or walking when being towed. The Bultaco
> weighs in at 200 pounds plus the hitch rack, call it 300 total
> torque/couple/leverage/moment(thats the word) 12 inchs out passed the
> receiver face. Multiplied by the short wheelbase would cause a lifting
> of the front end. Right?
>
> Does this make the Wrangler a better choice with the bike mounted UP on
> the back seat or where ever?

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

No problem, just don't put your Mother-in-law on the tail gate too.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

BuntRVer wrote:
>
> How would I mount a motorcycle on a Cherokee? It seems to me that a
> hitch-mount would make the rigs' front tires a little too light on the
> road and cause some wobble or walking when being towed. The Bultaco
> weighs in at 200 pounds plus the hitch rack, call it 300 total
> torque/couple/leverage/moment(thats the word) 12 inchs out passed the
> receiver face. Multiplied by the short wheelbase would cause a lifting
> of the front end. Right?
>
> Does this make the Wrangler a better choice with the bike mounted UP on
> the back seat or where ever?

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

No problem, just don't put your Mother-in-law on the tail gate too.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

BuntRVer wrote:
>
> How would I mount a motorcycle on a Cherokee? It seems to me that a
> hitch-mount would make the rigs' front tires a little too light on the
> road and cause some wobble or walking when being towed. The Bultaco
> weighs in at 200 pounds plus the hitch rack, call it 300 total
> torque/couple/leverage/moment(thats the word) 12 inchs out passed the
> receiver face. Multiplied by the short wheelbase would cause a lifting
> of the front end. Right?
>
> Does this make the Wrangler a better choice with the bike mounted UP on
> the back seat or where ever?