L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Yes! Learn to blue print an engine to 1960 specs. Give it 10:1
> compression to run on our pump gas, and a good cam breathing duration
> and Holley and have a bona fide 1000 HP:
> http://www.steveschmidtracing.com/en...2-slammer.html That
> information is just so basic, making you not just ignorant, but stupid!

The ignorance and stupidity here is someone not remembering the subject
of this thread... Do you really think a 1000hp AMC 8 would be cheap? Do
you think a couple traveling around in an RV have the shop and resources
to build it?

We're talking about 30 year old "cheap" CJ5's to tow behind a freakin RV
let me emphasise "CHEAP!" NOT YOUR delusions. Try for once to get at
least a loose gasp on what we're talking about here would you?

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

 

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Yes! Learn to blue print an engine to 1960 specs. Give it 10:1
> compression to run on our pump gas, and a good cam breathing duration
> and Holley and have a bona fide 1000 HP:
> http://www.steveschmidtracing.com/en...2-slammer.html That
> information is just so basic, making you not just ignorant, but stupid!

The ignorance and stupidity here is someone not remembering the subject
of this thread... Do you really think a 1000hp AMC 8 would be cheap? Do
you think a couple traveling around in an RV have the shop and resources
to build it?

We're talking about 30 year old "cheap" CJ5's to tow behind a freakin RV
let me emphasise "CHEAP!" NOT YOUR delusions. Try for once to get at
least a loose gasp on what we're talking about here would you?

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

 

I don't have to try anything, they are both Jeeps and I don't need your
approval. And wife's is not a Rubicon. Don't post again until your
medication wears off.

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44FD0A42.9E2BA4E2@***.net...
> Just don't try and tell me your TJ or Wife's Ruby is a Jeep.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> You are completely hopeless.

 

I don't have to try anything, they are both Jeeps and I don't need your
approval. And wife's is not a Rubicon. Don't post again until your
medication wears off.

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44FD0A42.9E2BA4E2@***.net...
> Just don't try and tell me your TJ or Wife's Ruby is a Jeep.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> You are completely hopeless.

 

I don't have to try anything, they are both Jeeps and I don't need your
approval. And wife's is not a Rubicon. Don't post again until your
medication wears off.

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44FD0A42.9E2BA4E2@***.net...
> Just don't try and tell me your TJ or Wife's Ruby is a Jeep.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> You are completely hopeless.

 

How would I mount a motorcycle on a Cherokee? It seems to me that
hitch-mount would make the rigs' front tires a little too light on th
road and cause some wobble or walking when being towed. The Bultac
weighs in at 200 pounds plus the hitch rack, call it 300 total
torque/couple/leverage/moment(thats the word) 12 inchs out passed th
receiver face. Multiplied by the short wheelbase would cause a liftin
of the front end. Right?

Does this make the Wrangler a better choice with the bike mounted UP o
the back seat or where ever?



Matt Macchiarolo Wrote:
> Jeep Liberty (Libby) is a relatively new model and the prices probably
> haven't come down to where you are looking. And there is a huge proble
> with
> the front ball joints as well.
>
> You won't see a CJ-5 in your price range that won't need a lot o
> repairs &
> restoration. You can get a fully restored one for something in the
> neightborhood of $10K +, a drivevale but rusty one for $5K-10K and
> barely
> running (if at all) project vehicle for 2K-5K. None of this wil
> include
> your chiropractor's bill for your lower back. The transfer cases o
> some
> also aren't ideal for flat-towing.
>
> The Cherolee's depending on the years will set you back say 3-4K for
>
> mid-90's and up, newer models of course would go for more. Most of the
> had
> the 6-cyl but the fours are out there. It would be a good choice for a
>
> all-around utility vehcle. Look for one with a Command Trac part-time
> transfer case, it will keep purchase cost down and it's simpler tha
> the
> full-time cases, so lesss to go wrong. Also, some full time 'cases ma
> be
> without a Neutral position, (but that might apply only to the Grand
> Cherokee) and you would want to avoid those, it will make it difficul
> to
> tow. To tow you would put the tranny in gear or Park, the T case i
> Neutral,
> ignition key unlocked. Look for rust under the front floorboards.
>
> For a more fun vehicle you might look at a 90's and up Wrangler, in 9
> there
> was a major redesign that provides a better ride and off-roa
> capability.
> Also they would be slightly easier to set up for flat towing since th
> front
> bumper is flat and easily accommodates towbar tabs, where th
> Cherokee's
> unibody will requires some additional effort to install towbar tabs
> That
> and you can put the top down on a beautiful day! A Wrangler in stoc
> for is
> actually a little heavier than the Cherokee, since it is
> body-on-frame,
> but most RV's won't know the difference.
>
> "BuntRVer" BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com wrote in message
> news:BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com...-
>
> So, after much consternation, what is the consensus? Cherokee , CJ
> or
> Libby (whatever that is).
> I vote for Cherokee. The six banger is the preferred engine, yes?
> What would be an appropriate price to pay if all systems are working
> and the tires are useable?
>
>
>
>
> --
> BuntRVer


--
BuntRVer

 

How would I mount a motorcycle on a Cherokee? It seems to me that
hitch-mount would make the rigs' front tires a little too light on th
road and cause some wobble or walking when being towed. The Bultac
weighs in at 200 pounds plus the hitch rack, call it 300 total
torque/couple/leverage/moment(thats the word) 12 inchs out passed th
receiver face. Multiplied by the short wheelbase would cause a liftin
of the front end. Right?

Does this make the Wrangler a better choice with the bike mounted UP o
the back seat or where ever?



Matt Macchiarolo Wrote:
> Jeep Liberty (Libby) is a relatively new model and the prices probably
> haven't come down to where you are looking. And there is a huge proble
> with
> the front ball joints as well.
>
> You won't see a CJ-5 in your price range that won't need a lot o
> repairs &
> restoration. You can get a fully restored one for something in the
> neightborhood of $10K +, a drivevale but rusty one for $5K-10K and
> barely
> running (if at all) project vehicle for 2K-5K. None of this wil
> include
> your chiropractor's bill for your lower back. The transfer cases o
> some
> also aren't ideal for flat-towing.
>
> The Cherolee's depending on the years will set you back say 3-4K for
>
> mid-90's and up, newer models of course would go for more. Most of the
> had
> the 6-cyl but the fours are out there. It would be a good choice for a
>
> all-around utility vehcle. Look for one with a Command Trac part-time
> transfer case, it will keep purchase cost down and it's simpler tha
> the
> full-time cases, so lesss to go wrong. Also, some full time 'cases ma
> be
> without a Neutral position, (but that might apply only to the Grand
> Cherokee) and you would want to avoid those, it will make it difficul
> to
> tow. To tow you would put the tranny in gear or Park, the T case i
> Neutral,
> ignition key unlocked. Look for rust under the front floorboards.
>
> For a more fun vehicle you might look at a 90's and up Wrangler, in 9
> there
> was a major redesign that provides a better ride and off-roa
> capability.
> Also they would be slightly easier to set up for flat towing since th
> front
> bumper is flat and easily accommodates towbar tabs, where th
> Cherokee's
> unibody will requires some additional effort to install towbar tabs
> That
> and you can put the top down on a beautiful day! A Wrangler in stoc
> for is
> actually a little heavier than the Cherokee, since it is
> body-on-frame,
> but most RV's won't know the difference.
>
> "BuntRVer" BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com wrote in message
> news:BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com...-
>
> So, after much consternation, what is the consensus? Cherokee , CJ
> or
> Libby (whatever that is).
> I vote for Cherokee. The six banger is the preferred engine, yes?
> What would be an appropriate price to pay if all systems are working
> and the tires are useable?
>
>
>
>
> --
> BuntRVer


--
BuntRVer

 

How would I mount a motorcycle on a Cherokee? It seems to me that
hitch-mount would make the rigs' front tires a little too light on th
road and cause some wobble or walking when being towed. The Bultac
weighs in at 200 pounds plus the hitch rack, call it 300 total
torque/couple/leverage/moment(thats the word) 12 inchs out passed th
receiver face. Multiplied by the short wheelbase would cause a liftin
of the front end. Right?

Does this make the Wrangler a better choice with the bike mounted UP o
the back seat or where ever?



Matt Macchiarolo Wrote:
> Jeep Liberty (Libby) is a relatively new model and the prices probably
> haven't come down to where you are looking. And there is a huge proble
> with
> the front ball joints as well.
>
> You won't see a CJ-5 in your price range that won't need a lot o
> repairs &
> restoration. You can get a fully restored one for something in the
> neightborhood of $10K +, a drivevale but rusty one for $5K-10K and
> barely
> running (if at all) project vehicle for 2K-5K. None of this wil
> include
> your chiropractor's bill for your lower back. The transfer cases o
> some
> also aren't ideal for flat-towing.
>
> The Cherolee's depending on the years will set you back say 3-4K for
>
> mid-90's and up, newer models of course would go for more. Most of the
> had
> the 6-cyl but the fours are out there. It would be a good choice for a
>
> all-around utility vehcle. Look for one with a Command Trac part-time
> transfer case, it will keep purchase cost down and it's simpler tha
> the
> full-time cases, so lesss to go wrong. Also, some full time 'cases ma
> be
> without a Neutral position, (but that might apply only to the Grand
> Cherokee) and you would want to avoid those, it will make it difficul
> to
> tow. To tow you would put the tranny in gear or Park, the T case i
> Neutral,
> ignition key unlocked. Look for rust under the front floorboards.
>
> For a more fun vehicle you might look at a 90's and up Wrangler, in 9
> there
> was a major redesign that provides a better ride and off-roa
> capability.
> Also they would be slightly easier to set up for flat towing since th
> front
> bumper is flat and easily accommodates towbar tabs, where th
> Cherokee's
> unibody will requires some additional effort to install towbar tabs
> That
> and you can put the top down on a beautiful day! A Wrangler in stoc
> for is
> actually a little heavier than the Cherokee, since it is
> body-on-frame,
> but most RV's won't know the difference.
>
> "BuntRVer" BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com wrote in message
> news:BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com...-
>
> So, after much consternation, what is the consensus? Cherokee , CJ
> or
> Libby (whatever that is).
> I vote for Cherokee. The six banger is the preferred engine, yes?
> What would be an appropriate price to pay if all systems are working
> and the tires are useable?
>
>
>
>
> --
> BuntRVer


--
BuntRVer

 

I wouldn't think a motorcycle would affect the front end much.


"BuntRVer" <BuntRVer.2dobqf@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
news:BuntRVer.2dobqf@news.autobanter.com...
>
> How would I mount a motorcycle on a Cherokee? It seems to me that a
> hitch-mount would make the rigs' front tires a little too light on the
> road and cause some wobble or walking when being towed. The Bultaco
> weighs in at 200 pounds plus the hitch rack, call it 300 total
> torque/couple/leverage/moment(thats the word) 12 inchs out passed the
> receiver face. Multiplied by the short wheelbase would cause a lifting
> of the front end. Right?
>
> Does this make the Wrangler a better choice with the bike mounted UP on
> the back seat or where ever?
>
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo Wrote:
>> Jeep Liberty (Libby) is a relatively new model and the prices probably
>> haven't come down to where you are looking. And there is a huge problem
>> with
>> the front ball joints as well.
>>
>> You won't see a CJ-5 in your price range that won't need a lot of
>> repairs &
>> restoration. You can get a fully restored one for something in the
>> neightborhood of $10K +, a drivevale but rusty one for $5K-10K and a
>> barely
>> running (if at all) project vehicle for 2K-5K. None of this will
>> include
>> your chiropractor's bill for your lower back. The transfer cases on
>> some
>> also aren't ideal for flat-towing.
>>
>> The Cherolee's depending on the years will set you back say 3-4K for a
>>
>> mid-90's and up, newer models of course would go for more. Most of them
>> had
>> the 6-cyl but the fours are out there. It would be a good choice for an
>>
>> all-around utility vehcle. Look for one with a Command Trac part-time
>> transfer case, it will keep purchase cost down and it's simpler than
>> the
>> full-time cases, so lesss to go wrong. Also, some full time 'cases may
>> be
>> without a Neutral position, (but that might apply only to the Grand
>> Cherokee) and you would want to avoid those, it will make it difficult
>> to
>> tow. To tow you would put the tranny in gear or Park, the T case in
>> Neutral,
>> ignition key unlocked. Look for rust under the front floorboards.
>>
>> For a more fun vehicle you might look at a 90's and up Wrangler, in 97
>> there
>> was a major redesign that provides a better ride and off-road
>> capability.
>> Also they would be slightly easier to set up for flat towing since the
>> front
>> bumper is flat and easily accommodates towbar tabs, where the
>> Cherokee's
>> unibody will requires some additional effort to install towbar tabs.
>> That
>> and you can put the top down on a beautiful day! A Wrangler in stock
>> for is
>> actually a little heavier than the Cherokee, since it is a
>> body-on-frame,
>> but most RV's won't know the difference.
>>
>> "BuntRVer" BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com wrote in message
>> news:BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com...-
>>
>> So, after much consternation, what is the consensus? Cherokee , CJ5
>> or
>> Libby (whatever that is).
>> I vote for Cherokee. The six banger is the preferred engine, yes?
>> What would be an appropriate price to pay if all systems are working
>> and the tires are useable?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> BuntRVer -
>
>
>
>
> --
> BuntRVer

 

I wouldn't think a motorcycle would affect the front end much.


"BuntRVer" <BuntRVer.2dobqf@news.autobanter.com> wrote in message
news:BuntRVer.2dobqf@news.autobanter.com...
>
> How would I mount a motorcycle on a Cherokee? It seems to me that a
> hitch-mount would make the rigs' front tires a little too light on the
> road and cause some wobble or walking when being towed. The Bultaco
> weighs in at 200 pounds plus the hitch rack, call it 300 total
> torque/couple/leverage/moment(thats the word) 12 inchs out passed the
> receiver face. Multiplied by the short wheelbase would cause a lifting
> of the front end. Right?
>
> Does this make the Wrangler a better choice with the bike mounted UP on
> the back seat or where ever?
>
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo Wrote:
>> Jeep Liberty (Libby) is a relatively new model and the prices probably
>> haven't come down to where you are looking. And there is a huge problem
>> with
>> the front ball joints as well.
>>
>> You won't see a CJ-5 in your price range that won't need a lot of
>> repairs &
>> restoration. You can get a fully restored one for something in the
>> neightborhood of $10K +, a drivevale but rusty one for $5K-10K and a
>> barely
>> running (if at all) project vehicle for 2K-5K. None of this will
>> include
>> your chiropractor's bill for your lower back. The transfer cases on
>> some
>> also aren't ideal for flat-towing.
>>
>> The Cherolee's depending on the years will set you back say 3-4K for a
>>
>> mid-90's and up, newer models of course would go for more. Most of them
>> had
>> the 6-cyl but the fours are out there. It would be a good choice for an
>>
>> all-around utility vehcle. Look for one with a Command Trac part-time
>> transfer case, it will keep purchase cost down and it's simpler than
>> the
>> full-time cases, so lesss to go wrong. Also, some full time 'cases may
>> be
>> without a Neutral position, (but that might apply only to the Grand
>> Cherokee) and you would want to avoid those, it will make it difficult
>> to
>> tow. To tow you would put the tranny in gear or Park, the T case in
>> Neutral,
>> ignition key unlocked. Look for rust under the front floorboards.
>>
>> For a more fun vehicle you might look at a 90's and up Wrangler, in 97
>> there
>> was a major redesign that provides a better ride and off-road
>> capability.
>> Also they would be slightly easier to set up for flat towing since the
>> front
>> bumper is flat and easily accommodates towbar tabs, where the
>> Cherokee's
>> unibody will requires some additional effort to install towbar tabs.
>> That
>> and you can put the top down on a beautiful day! A Wrangler in stock
>> for is
>> actually a little heavier than the Cherokee, since it is a
>> body-on-frame,
>> but most RV's won't know the difference.
>>
>> "BuntRVer" BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com wrote in message
>> news:BuntRVer.2dm0ee@news.autobanter.com...-
>>
>> So, after much consternation, what is the consensus? Cherokee , CJ5
>> or
>> Libby (whatever that is).
>> I vote for Cherokee. The six banger is the preferred engine, yes?
>> What would be an appropriate price to pay if all systems are working
>> and the tires are useable?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> BuntRVer -
>
>
>
>
> --
> BuntRVer