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Play4aBuck 11-14-2003 04:21 PM

Re: Jeep Liberty recalled
 
What makes you think the "A" frame on the Liberty will crack?

Hummer video...do you have the link handy?

Cheers,
Jim

L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote in message <3FB2A3FA.527238A3@cox.net>...
> Wait until that cast iron lower "A" frame that the ball joint sits
>in begins to break on the road, much like that Hummer video Nathan put
>up.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>





Play4aBuck 11-14-2003 04:21 PM

Re: Jeep Liberty recalled
 
What makes you think the "A" frame on the Liberty will crack?

Hummer video...do you have the link handy?

Cheers,
Jim

L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote in message <3FB2A3FA.527238A3@cox.net>...
> Wait until that cast iron lower "A" frame that the ball joint sits
>in begins to break on the road, much like that Hummer video Nathan put
>up.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>





Play4aBuck 11-14-2003 04:21 PM

Re: Jeep Liberty recalled
 
What makes you think the "A" frame on the Liberty will crack?

Hummer video...do you have the link handy?

Cheers,
Jim

L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote in message <3FB2A3FA.527238A3@cox.net>...
> Wait until that cast iron lower "A" frame that the ball joint sits
>in begins to break on the road, much like that Hummer video Nathan put
>up.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>





L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-14-2003 08:08 PM

Re: Jeep Liberty recalled
 
It's made of cast iron, I guess you've never broken apart a V8
block so the trash man will take it. Or accidentally broke a cast part
while bolting it together out of sequence, It's like glass, taking a
very little blow to break it, and that's what Daimler chose for the
Libby's lower "A" frame suspension. I can't find the video of the
Hummer, that wouldn't be it anyway, the suspension of the Yukon I've
seen is made of steel. The video just showed the wheel flopping around
like it probably just broke a tie rod end, not like the Libby where the
wheel would fall off.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Play4aBuck wrote:
>
> What makes you think the "A" frame on the Liberty will crack?
>
> Hummer video...do you have the link handy?
>
> Cheers,
> Jim


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-14-2003 08:08 PM

Re: Jeep Liberty recalled
 
It's made of cast iron, I guess you've never broken apart a V8
block so the trash man will take it. Or accidentally broke a cast part
while bolting it together out of sequence, It's like glass, taking a
very little blow to break it, and that's what Daimler chose for the
Libby's lower "A" frame suspension. I can't find the video of the
Hummer, that wouldn't be it anyway, the suspension of the Yukon I've
seen is made of steel. The video just showed the wheel flopping around
like it probably just broke a tie rod end, not like the Libby where the
wheel would fall off.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Play4aBuck wrote:
>
> What makes you think the "A" frame on the Liberty will crack?
>
> Hummer video...do you have the link handy?
>
> Cheers,
> Jim


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-14-2003 08:08 PM

Re: Jeep Liberty recalled
 
It's made of cast iron, I guess you've never broken apart a V8
block so the trash man will take it. Or accidentally broke a cast part
while bolting it together out of sequence, It's like glass, taking a
very little blow to break it, and that's what Daimler chose for the
Libby's lower "A" frame suspension. I can't find the video of the
Hummer, that wouldn't be it anyway, the suspension of the Yukon I've
seen is made of steel. The video just showed the wheel flopping around
like it probably just broke a tie rod end, not like the Libby where the
wheel would fall off.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Play4aBuck wrote:
>
> What makes you think the "A" frame on the Liberty will crack?
>
> Hummer video...do you have the link handy?
>
> Cheers,
> Jim


Terry Jeffrey 11-15-2003 01:21 PM

Re: Jeep Liberty recalled
 
Yep. First order of business was getting rid of that POS D35C in my YJ.
The vacuum disconnect crap was next - what a dumb idea.

Terry.


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FB3E861.B25BBBD@cox.net...
> Hi John,
> One unbelievable compromise done to AMC's engineered Wrangler
> design, was to change the rear end to a "C" clip axles. What were they
> thinking? http://www.----------.com/dana35c
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> attnews wrote:
> >
> > you can translate "loss of control" as meaning the wheel fell off.
> > Do not mistake the Liberty as being a Jeep. No moreJeeps were
> > designed/built after American Motor's designs. The last one in

production
> > is the wrangler, and even it has been compromised in various ways, but

not
> > to the complete detriment of the original design. Still, if you like
> > t? )the liberty? Whynot?




Terry Jeffrey 11-15-2003 01:21 PM

Re: Jeep Liberty recalled
 
Yep. First order of business was getting rid of that POS D35C in my YJ.
The vacuum disconnect crap was next - what a dumb idea.

Terry.


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FB3E861.B25BBBD@cox.net...
> Hi John,
> One unbelievable compromise done to AMC's engineered Wrangler
> design, was to change the rear end to a "C" clip axles. What were they
> thinking? http://www.----------.com/dana35c
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> attnews wrote:
> >
> > you can translate "loss of control" as meaning the wheel fell off.
> > Do not mistake the Liberty as being a Jeep. No moreJeeps were
> > designed/built after American Motor's designs. The last one in

production
> > is the wrangler, and even it has been compromised in various ways, but

not
> > to the complete detriment of the original design. Still, if you like
> > t? )the liberty? Whynot?




Terry Jeffrey 11-15-2003 01:21 PM

Re: Jeep Liberty recalled
 
Yep. First order of business was getting rid of that POS D35C in my YJ.
The vacuum disconnect crap was next - what a dumb idea.

Terry.


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FB3E861.B25BBBD@cox.net...
> Hi John,
> One unbelievable compromise done to AMC's engineered Wrangler
> design, was to change the rear end to a "C" clip axles. What were they
> thinking? http://www.----------.com/dana35c
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> attnews wrote:
> >
> > you can translate "loss of control" as meaning the wheel fell off.
> > Do not mistake the Liberty as being a Jeep. No moreJeeps were
> > designed/built after American Motor's designs. The last one in

production
> > is the wrangler, and even it has been compromised in various ways, but

not
> > to the complete detriment of the original design. Still, if you like
> > t? )the liberty? Whynot?




Dave Milne 11-15-2003 04:22 PM

Re: Jeep Liberty recalled
 
I prefer to call them "cart spring guys" :-)

Dave

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OLUsb.3404$xp5.1577275528@newssvr30.news.prod igy.com...
> You Leaf Spring guys are all the same. :)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > It's a safety feature. You see coil springs make it harder to climb

hills,
> > and if you get too high you could fall down. So the coil springs keep

you
> > down on the road where it's nice and safe...
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FB40480.A36F1026@cox.net...
> >
> >> Are you trying convince yourself those coil springs are any good
> >>other than a cushy ride on the street?
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>Say what you will about "AMC's designs", but I've owned two AMC CJ7s,
> >>>one AMC designed Chrysler YJ, and two Chrysler designed TJs. There is

no
> >>>question that there are huge design improvements over AMC's YJ in the
> >>>development of the TJ.
> >>>_______________________________________________ ____________
> >>>tw
> >>>03 TJ Rubicon
> >>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>
> >>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>
> >>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>Function: noun
> >>>Date: 1940
> >>>
> >>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> >>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>World War II.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> >>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>_______________________________________________ ____________

> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>





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