You just can't resist mentioning that one, can you :)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:425BE271.F9BC8FDD@sympatico.ca...

> There also is a mesh wire from the back of the engine to the firewall
> that needs 'both' ends cleaned every once in a while but that will just
> give a no start or strange stall, not a click click noise.

 

LOL!

It is just such a common failure up here in the salt belt....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Steve Foley wrote:
>
> You just can't resist mentioning that one, can you :)
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:425BE271.F9BC8FDD@sympatico.ca...
>
> > There also is a mesh wire from the back of the engine to the firewall
> > that needs 'both' ends cleaned every once in a while but that will just
> > give a no start or strange stall, not a click click noise.

 

LOL!

It is just such a common failure up here in the salt belt....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Steve Foley wrote:
>
> You just can't resist mentioning that one, can you :)
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:425BE271.F9BC8FDD@sympatico.ca...
>
> > There also is a mesh wire from the back of the engine to the firewall
> > that needs 'both' ends cleaned every once in a while but that will just
> > give a no start or strange stall, not a click click noise.

 

LOL!

It is just such a common failure up here in the salt belt....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Steve Foley wrote:
>
> You just can't resist mentioning that one, can you :)
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:425BE271.F9BC8FDD@sympatico.ca...
>
> > There also is a mesh wire from the back of the engine to the firewall
> > that needs 'both' ends cleaned every once in a while but that will just
> > give a no start or strange stall, not a click click noise.

 

LOL!

It is just such a common failure up here in the salt belt....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Steve Foley wrote:
>
> You just can't resist mentioning that one, can you :)
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:425BE271.F9BC8FDD@sympatico.ca...
>
> > There also is a mesh wire from the back of the engine to the firewall
> > that needs 'both' ends cleaned every once in a while but that will just
> > give a no start or strange stall, not a click click noise.

 

It is amazing the number of no starts that are 'fixed' by running a
booster cable from the battery negative to the engine block....

Mike

B Pilon wrote:
>
> Ok, I understand. I have to clean both ends of the cables. Your right, I
> forgot the other end.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Do you think that the starter can be faulty?
>
> Bruno
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:425BE271.F9BC8FDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No.....
> >
> > 'Each' battery cable has 2 ends.....
> >
> > It is pretty (very) common for 'both' ends of the cables to become
> > dirty, especially the negative at the block and the positive at the
> > starter relay and/or solenoid.
> >
> > There also is a mesh wire from the back of the engine to the firewall
> > that needs 'both' ends cleaned every once in a while but that will just
> > give a no start or strange stall, not a click click noise.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > B Pilon wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, the positive terminal connection has 2 cables.
> >>
> >> I'm pretty sure that the negative terminal connection has only 1 cable.
> >>
> >> Bruno
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:425BD721.9C2C96B1@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Your battery cables have 2 ends.....
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > B Pilon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no
> >> >> air
> >> >> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
> >> >>
> >> >> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the
> >> >> ignition
> >> >> the
> >> >> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times
> >> >> with
> >> >> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
> >> >> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack
> >> >> again
> >> >> to
> >> >> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal
> >> >> connections
> >> >> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter
> >> >> (rebuild)
> >> >> is
> >> >> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch
> >> >> is
> >> >> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the
> >> >> battery
> >> >> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The
> >> >> truck
> >> >> started just fine so I was very happy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the
> >> >> power
> >> >> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to
> >> >> start
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V)
> >> >> and
> >> >> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
> >> >>
> >> >> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter
> >> >> that
> >> >> needs to much power to be able to start.
> >> >>
> >> >> I need your help on that one
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you know what could be the problem?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Bruno,
> >> >>
> >> >> Ottawa area, Canada

 

It is amazing the number of no starts that are 'fixed' by running a
booster cable from the battery negative to the engine block....

Mike

B Pilon wrote:
>
> Ok, I understand. I have to clean both ends of the cables. Your right, I
> forgot the other end.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Do you think that the starter can be faulty?
>
> Bruno
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:425BE271.F9BC8FDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No.....
> >
> > 'Each' battery cable has 2 ends.....
> >
> > It is pretty (very) common for 'both' ends of the cables to become
> > dirty, especially the negative at the block and the positive at the
> > starter relay and/or solenoid.
> >
> > There also is a mesh wire from the back of the engine to the firewall
> > that needs 'both' ends cleaned every once in a while but that will just
> > give a no start or strange stall, not a click click noise.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > B Pilon wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, the positive terminal connection has 2 cables.
> >>
> >> I'm pretty sure that the negative terminal connection has only 1 cable.
> >>
> >> Bruno
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:425BD721.9C2C96B1@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Your battery cables have 2 ends.....
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > B Pilon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no
> >> >> air
> >> >> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
> >> >>
> >> >> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the
> >> >> ignition
> >> >> the
> >> >> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times
> >> >> with
> >> >> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
> >> >> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack
> >> >> again
> >> >> to
> >> >> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal
> >> >> connections
> >> >> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter
> >> >> (rebuild)
> >> >> is
> >> >> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch
> >> >> is
> >> >> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the
> >> >> battery
> >> >> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The
> >> >> truck
> >> >> started just fine so I was very happy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the
> >> >> power
> >> >> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to
> >> >> start
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V)
> >> >> and
> >> >> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
> >> >>
> >> >> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter
> >> >> that
> >> >> needs to much power to be able to start.
> >> >>
> >> >> I need your help on that one
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you know what could be the problem?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Bruno,
> >> >>
> >> >> Ottawa area, Canada

 

It is amazing the number of no starts that are 'fixed' by running a
booster cable from the battery negative to the engine block....

Mike

B Pilon wrote:
>
> Ok, I understand. I have to clean both ends of the cables. Your right, I
> forgot the other end.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Do you think that the starter can be faulty?
>
> Bruno
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:425BE271.F9BC8FDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No.....
> >
> > 'Each' battery cable has 2 ends.....
> >
> > It is pretty (very) common for 'both' ends of the cables to become
> > dirty, especially the negative at the block and the positive at the
> > starter relay and/or solenoid.
> >
> > There also is a mesh wire from the back of the engine to the firewall
> > that needs 'both' ends cleaned every once in a while but that will just
> > give a no start or strange stall, not a click click noise.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > B Pilon wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, the positive terminal connection has 2 cables.
> >>
> >> I'm pretty sure that the negative terminal connection has only 1 cable.
> >>
> >> Bruno
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:425BD721.9C2C96B1@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Your battery cables have 2 ends.....
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > B Pilon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no
> >> >> air
> >> >> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
> >> >>
> >> >> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the
> >> >> ignition
> >> >> the
> >> >> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times
> >> >> with
> >> >> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
> >> >> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack
> >> >> again
> >> >> to
> >> >> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal
> >> >> connections
> >> >> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter
> >> >> (rebuild)
> >> >> is
> >> >> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch
> >> >> is
> >> >> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the
> >> >> battery
> >> >> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The
> >> >> truck
> >> >> started just fine so I was very happy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the
> >> >> power
> >> >> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to
> >> >> start
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V)
> >> >> and
> >> >> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
> >> >>
> >> >> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter
> >> >> that
> >> >> needs to much power to be able to start.
> >> >>
> >> >> I need your help on that one
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you know what could be the problem?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Bruno,
> >> >>
> >> >> Ottawa area, Canada

 

It is amazing the number of no starts that are 'fixed' by running a
booster cable from the battery negative to the engine block....

Mike

B Pilon wrote:
>
> Ok, I understand. I have to clean both ends of the cables. Your right, I
> forgot the other end.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Do you think that the starter can be faulty?
>
> Bruno
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:425BE271.F9BC8FDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No.....
> >
> > 'Each' battery cable has 2 ends.....
> >
> > It is pretty (very) common for 'both' ends of the cables to become
> > dirty, especially the negative at the block and the positive at the
> > starter relay and/or solenoid.
> >
> > There also is a mesh wire from the back of the engine to the firewall
> > that needs 'both' ends cleaned every once in a while but that will just
> > give a no start or strange stall, not a click click noise.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > B Pilon wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, the positive terminal connection has 2 cables.
> >>
> >> I'm pretty sure that the negative terminal connection has only 1 cable.
> >>
> >> Bruno
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:425BD721.9C2C96B1@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Your battery cables have 2 ends.....
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > B Pilon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no
> >> >> air
> >> >> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
> >> >>
> >> >> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the
> >> >> ignition
> >> >> the
> >> >> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times
> >> >> with
> >> >> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
> >> >> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack
> >> >> again
> >> >> to
> >> >> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal
> >> >> connections
> >> >> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter
> >> >> (rebuild)
> >> >> is
> >> >> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch
> >> >> is
> >> >> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the
> >> >> battery
> >> >> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The
> >> >> truck
> >> >> started just fine so I was very happy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the
> >> >> power
> >> >> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to
> >> >> start
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V)
> >> >> and
> >> >> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
> >> >>
> >> >> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter
> >> >> that
> >> >> needs to much power to be able to start.
> >> >>
> >> >> I need your help on that one
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you know what could be the problem?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Bruno,
> >> >>
> >> >> Ottawa area, Canada

 

After you try Mikes cable cleaning, if the problem persists I would consider
pulling the starter and taking to Crappy Tire and have them bench test it
(its free), it sounds like a bad starter solenoid, it could however be as
simple as dirt and rust build up on the solenoid connections.

Snow...

"B Pilon" <bblancha@rncan.gc.ca> wrote in message
news:d3gjbr$qp412@nrn2b.NRCan.gc.ca...
> Hi,
>
> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
>
>
>
> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition
> the starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times
> with the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again
> to restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal
> connections (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the
> starter (rebuild) is 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and
> the ignition switch is less than 3 months old. So because I found
> corrosion near one of the battery cap, I went to Costco and had the
> battery replaced for a new one. The truck started just fine so I was very
> happy.
>
> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
>
> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to
> start it.
>
> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
>
>
>
> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter that
> needs to much power to be able to start.
>
>
>
> I need your help on that one
>
> Do you know what could be the problem?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Bruno,
>
> Ottawa area, Canada
>
>