Jeep dont want to start, please help
 

Hi,

I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
conditioning and a lot of rust :).



The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition the
starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times with
the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again to
restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal connections
(but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter (rebuild) is
7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch is
less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the battery
cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The truck
started just fine so I was very happy.

Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.

Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to start
it.

I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).



I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter that
needs to much power to be able to start.



I need your help on that one

Do you know what could be the problem?



Thanks



Bruno,

Ottawa area, Canada

Re: Jeep dont want to start, please help
 

Your battery cables have 2 ends.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

B Pilon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
>
> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition the
> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times with
> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again to
> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal connections
> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter (rebuild) is
> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch is
> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the battery
> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The truck
> started just fine so I was very happy.
>
> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
>
> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to start
> it.
>
> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
>
> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter that
> needs to much power to be able to start.
>
> I need your help on that one
>
> Do you know what could be the problem?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruno,
>
> Ottawa area, Canada

Re: Jeep dont want to start, please help
 

Your battery cables have 2 ends.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

B Pilon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
>
> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition the
> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times with
> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again to
> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal connections
> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter (rebuild) is
> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch is
> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the battery
> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The truck
> started just fine so I was very happy.
>
> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
>
> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to start
> it.
>
> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
>
> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter that
> needs to much power to be able to start.
>
> I need your help on that one
>
> Do you know what could be the problem?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruno,
>
> Ottawa area, Canada

Re: Jeep dont want to start, please help
 

Your battery cables have 2 ends.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

B Pilon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
>
> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition the
> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times with
> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again to
> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal connections
> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter (rebuild) is
> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch is
> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the battery
> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The truck
> started just fine so I was very happy.
>
> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
>
> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to start
> it.
>
> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
>
> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter that
> needs to much power to be able to start.
>
> I need your help on that one
>
> Do you know what could be the problem?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruno,
>
> Ottawa area, Canada

Re: Jeep dont want to start, please help
 

Your battery cables have 2 ends.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

B Pilon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
>
> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition the
> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times with
> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again to
> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal connections
> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter (rebuild) is
> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch is
> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the battery
> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The truck
> started just fine so I was very happy.
>
> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
>
> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to start
> it.
>
> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
>
> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter that
> needs to much power to be able to start.
>
> I need your help on that one
>
> Do you know what could be the problem?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruno,
>
> Ottawa area, Canada

Re: Jeep dont want to start, please help
 

Yes, the positive terminal connection has 2 cables.

I'm pretty sure that the negative terminal connection has only 1 cable.



Bruno



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:425BD721.9C2C96B1@sympatico.ca...
> Your battery cables have 2 ends.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> B Pilon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
>> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
>>
>> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition
>> the
>> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times
>> with
>> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
>> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again
>> to
>> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal
>> connections
>> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter (rebuild)
>> is
>> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch is
>> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the
>> battery
>> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The
>> truck
>> started just fine so I was very happy.
>>
>> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
>>
>> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
>> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to
>> start
>> it.
>>
>> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
>> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
>>
>> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter
>> that
>> needs to much power to be able to start.
>>
>> I need your help on that one
>>
>> Do you know what could be the problem?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Bruno,
>>
>> Ottawa area, Canada

Re: Jeep dont want to start, please help
 

Yes, the positive terminal connection has 2 cables.

I'm pretty sure that the negative terminal connection has only 1 cable.



Bruno



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:425BD721.9C2C96B1@sympatico.ca...
> Your battery cables have 2 ends.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> B Pilon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
>> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
>>
>> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition
>> the
>> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times
>> with
>> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
>> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again
>> to
>> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal
>> connections
>> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter (rebuild)
>> is
>> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch is
>> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the
>> battery
>> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The
>> truck
>> started just fine so I was very happy.
>>
>> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
>>
>> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
>> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to
>> start
>> it.
>>
>> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
>> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
>>
>> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter
>> that
>> needs to much power to be able to start.
>>
>> I need your help on that one
>>
>> Do you know what could be the problem?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Bruno,
>>
>> Ottawa area, Canada

Re: Jeep dont want to start, please help
 

Yes, the positive terminal connection has 2 cables.

I'm pretty sure that the negative terminal connection has only 1 cable.



Bruno



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:425BD721.9C2C96B1@sympatico.ca...
> Your battery cables have 2 ends.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> B Pilon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
>> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
>>
>> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition
>> the
>> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times
>> with
>> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
>> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again
>> to
>> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal
>> connections
>> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter (rebuild)
>> is
>> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch is
>> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the
>> battery
>> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The
>> truck
>> started just fine so I was very happy.
>>
>> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
>>
>> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
>> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to
>> start
>> it.
>>
>> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
>> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
>>
>> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter
>> that
>> needs to much power to be able to start.
>>
>> I need your help on that one
>>
>> Do you know what could be the problem?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Bruno,
>>
>> Ottawa area, Canada

Re: Jeep dont want to start, please help
 

Yes, the positive terminal connection has 2 cables.

I'm pretty sure that the negative terminal connection has only 1 cable.



Bruno



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:425BD721.9C2C96B1@sympatico.ca...
> Your battery cables have 2 ends.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> B Pilon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
>> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
>>
>> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition
>> the
>> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times
>> with
>> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
>> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again
>> to
>> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal
>> connections
>> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter (rebuild)
>> is
>> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch is
>> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the
>> battery
>> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The
>> truck
>> started just fine so I was very happy.
>>
>> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
>>
>> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
>> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to
>> start
>> it.
>>
>> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
>> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
>>
>> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter
>> that
>> needs to much power to be able to start.
>>
>> I need your help on that one
>>
>> Do you know what could be the problem?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Bruno,
>>
>> Ottawa area, Canada

Re: Jeep dont want to start, please help
 

No.....

'Each' battery cable has 2 ends.....

It is pretty (very) common for 'both' ends of the cables to become
dirty, especially the negative at the block and the positive at the
starter relay and/or solenoid.

There also is a mesh wire from the back of the engine to the firewall
that needs 'both' ends cleaned every once in a while but that will just
give a no start or strange stall, not a click click noise.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

B Pilon wrote:
>
> Yes, the positive terminal connection has 2 cables.
>
> I'm pretty sure that the negative terminal connection has only 1 cable.
>
> Bruno
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:425BD721.9C2C96B1@sympatico.ca...
> > Your battery cables have 2 ends.....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > B Pilon wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have a 87 Comanche 4X4 with the inline 6, 270 000Km (162 000mi) no air
> >> conditioning and a lot of rust :).
> >>
> >> The truck didn't want to start Sunday morning. When turning the ignition
> >> the
> >> starter made the tic tic tic tic tic tic sound. Tried almost 15 times
> >> with
> >> the same result. I hooked the power pack on the battery and the truck
> >> started just fine. Went shopping, and I had to hook the power pack again
> >> to
> >> restart it. When I arrived home I cleaned the battery terminal
> >> connections
> >> (but they were fine). The battery was 8 months old, the starter (rebuild)
> >> is
> >> 7 months old, the alternator is 1.5 month old and the ignition switch is
> >> less than 3 months old. So because I found corrosion near one of the
> >> battery
> >> cap, I went to Costco and had the battery replaced for a new one. The
> >> truck
> >> started just fine so I was very happy.
> >>
> >> Had no problem Sunday evening and Monday during the day.
> >>
> >> Yesterday evening, the same problem happened again so I needed the power
> >> pack to start the vehicle. And since yesterday, it's the only way to
> >> start
> >> it.
> >>
> >> I checked the voltage of the battery posts before starting (±12.45 V) and
> >> after starting (with the power pack removed) (±14.45 V).
> >>
> >> I phoned the mechanic garage and they said it is probably the starter
> >> that
> >> needs to much power to be able to start.
> >>
> >> I need your help on that one
> >>
> >> Do you know what could be the problem?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Bruno,
> >>
> >> Ottawa area, Canada