You apparently don't know ...



"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44B091D4.7D5BE9E0@***.net...
> Yes, and we all know you had to get yours certified.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> Bill, you are full of ----.
>>
>> Hesco makes a MPFI Kit, and has for years, that meets California Smog
>> Rules.
>>
>> TO THE OP,
>> I have the same system on my Jeep, and I pass smog easily. You have to
>> have
>> something wrong or out of adjustment. I'm not certain, but I think NOX is
>> an
>> issue that results from a beat to ---- CAT.

 

You apparently don't know ...



"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44B091D4.7D5BE9E0@***.net...
> Yes, and we all know you had to get yours certified.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> Bill, you are full of ----.
>>
>> Hesco makes a MPFI Kit, and has for years, that meets California Smog
>> Rules.
>>
>> TO THE OP,
>> I have the same system on my Jeep, and I pass smog easily. You have to
>> have
>> something wrong or out of adjustment. I'm not certain, but I think NOX is
>> an
>> issue that results from a beat to ---- CAT.

 

"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0fGdndBxBuElpyzZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Pretty much anything that raises the combustion temperature is a suspect
> for high NOX.


High temps _lower_ the NOX.





Crapped out cat, possibly just running too lean. If a
> good run takes it under the limit, figure you'll want to check/replace the
> cat before the next bi-annual.

I agree with that.



The smog stations are supposed to
> let the engine cool down before testing, but even the test only stations
> seem to want you in and out asap.
>

My car failed the low speed test, but passed the high speed test. It left me
wondering why they do the low speed first on a cold engine when if they do
the test on a hot engine, it will pass. If the high speed test was done
first, the engine would come to temp and pass on the low speed test.

 

"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0fGdndBxBuElpyzZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Pretty much anything that raises the combustion temperature is a suspect
> for high NOX.


High temps _lower_ the NOX.





Crapped out cat, possibly just running too lean. If a
> good run takes it under the limit, figure you'll want to check/replace the
> cat before the next bi-annual.

I agree with that.



The smog stations are supposed to
> let the engine cool down before testing, but even the test only stations
> seem to want you in and out asap.
>

My car failed the low speed test, but passed the high speed test. It left me
wondering why they do the low speed first on a cold engine when if they do
the test on a hot engine, it will pass. If the high speed test was done
first, the engine would come to temp and pass on the low speed test.

 

"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0fGdndBxBuElpyzZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Pretty much anything that raises the combustion temperature is a suspect
> for high NOX.


High temps _lower_ the NOX.





Crapped out cat, possibly just running too lean. If a
> good run takes it under the limit, figure you'll want to check/replace the
> cat before the next bi-annual.

I agree with that.



The smog stations are supposed to
> let the engine cool down before testing, but even the test only stations
> seem to want you in and out asap.
>

My car failed the low speed test, but passed the high speed test. It left me
wondering why they do the low speed first on a cold engine when if they do
the test on a hot engine, it will pass. If the high speed test was done
first, the engine would come to temp and pass on the low speed test.

 

Jeff Strickland proclaimed:

>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:0fGdndBxBuElpyzZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>> Pretty much anything that raises the combustion temperature is a
>> suspect for high NOX.
>
>
>
> High temps _lower_ the NOX.
>
Sorry, but wrong. NOX is formed when the compression and/or
temperature is high enough to get the nitrogen in common
air to react with oxygen to form one of the nitrogen oxides.

Nitrogen doesn't combine easily at either lower compression
or lower combustion temperatures.

"NOx emissions are formed when enough heat and pressure exist in a
vehicle's combustion chamber to combine oxygen with nitrogen. In the
1970s, vehicle manufacturers attempted to control NOx emissions by
preventing their formation. They lowered compression ratios (compared
to 1960s levels), retarded ignition and cam timing, and installed
exhaust gas re-circulation components to lower combustion temperature. "


>
>
>
> Crapped out cat, possibly just running too lean. If a
>
>> good run takes it under the limit, figure you'll want to check/replace
>> the cat before the next bi-annual.
>
>
> I agree with that.
>
>
>
> The smog stations are supposed to
>
>> let the engine cool down before testing, but even the test only
>> stations seem to want you in and out asap.
>>
>
> My car failed the low speed test, but passed the high speed test. It
> left me wondering why they do the low speed first on a cold engine when
> if they do the test on a hot engine, it will pass. If the high speed
> test was done first, the engine would come to temp and pass on the low
> speed test.
>
>
>
>

 

Jeff Strickland proclaimed:

>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:0fGdndBxBuElpyzZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>> Pretty much anything that raises the combustion temperature is a
>> suspect for high NOX.
>
>
>
> High temps _lower_ the NOX.
>
Sorry, but wrong. NOX is formed when the compression and/or
temperature is high enough to get the nitrogen in common
air to react with oxygen to form one of the nitrogen oxides.

Nitrogen doesn't combine easily at either lower compression
or lower combustion temperatures.

"NOx emissions are formed when enough heat and pressure exist in a
vehicle's combustion chamber to combine oxygen with nitrogen. In the
1970s, vehicle manufacturers attempted to control NOx emissions by
preventing their formation. They lowered compression ratios (compared
to 1960s levels), retarded ignition and cam timing, and installed
exhaust gas re-circulation components to lower combustion temperature. "


>
>
>
> Crapped out cat, possibly just running too lean. If a
>
>> good run takes it under the limit, figure you'll want to check/replace
>> the cat before the next bi-annual.
>
>
> I agree with that.
>
>
>
> The smog stations are supposed to
>
>> let the engine cool down before testing, but even the test only
>> stations seem to want you in and out asap.
>>
>
> My car failed the low speed test, but passed the high speed test. It
> left me wondering why they do the low speed first on a cold engine when
> if they do the test on a hot engine, it will pass. If the high speed
> test was done first, the engine would come to temp and pass on the low
> speed test.
>
>
>
>

 

Jeff Strickland proclaimed:

>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:0fGdndBxBuElpyzZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>> Pretty much anything that raises the combustion temperature is a
>> suspect for high NOX.
>
>
>
> High temps _lower_ the NOX.
>
Sorry, but wrong. NOX is formed when the compression and/or
temperature is high enough to get the nitrogen in common
air to react with oxygen to form one of the nitrogen oxides.

Nitrogen doesn't combine easily at either lower compression
or lower combustion temperatures.

"NOx emissions are formed when enough heat and pressure exist in a
vehicle's combustion chamber to combine oxygen with nitrogen. In the
1970s, vehicle manufacturers attempted to control NOx emissions by
preventing their formation. They lowered compression ratios (compared
to 1960s levels), retarded ignition and cam timing, and installed
exhaust gas re-circulation components to lower combustion temperature. "


>
>
>
> Crapped out cat, possibly just running too lean. If a
>
>> good run takes it under the limit, figure you'll want to check/replace
>> the cat before the next bi-annual.
>
>
> I agree with that.
>
>
>
> The smog stations are supposed to
>
>> let the engine cool down before testing, but even the test only
>> stations seem to want you in and out asap.
>>
>
> My car failed the low speed test, but passed the high speed test. It
> left me wondering why they do the low speed first on a cold engine when
> if they do the test on a hot engine, it will pass. If the high speed
> test was done first, the engine would come to temp and pass on the low
> speed test.
>
>
>
>

 

Thanks, glad to hear, I must have been thinking of someone else's
problem.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> No. I never said I had to go to a control station. The first time I went for
> smog, the tester was an idiot -- newbie -- that did not know what he was
> doing, and he caused the machine to demand I call the control station. The
> guy I called asked me, so why are yo calling me? He sent me, via phone
> conversation, back to the original smog shop. Once I got past the newbie,
> I've never had a problem again.

 

Thanks, glad to hear, I must have been thinking of someone else's
problem.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> No. I never said I had to go to a control station. The first time I went for
> smog, the tester was an idiot -- newbie -- that did not know what he was
> doing, and he caused the machine to demand I call the control station. The
> guy I called asked me, so why are yo calling me? He sent me, via phone
> conversation, back to the original smog shop. Once I got past the newbie,
> I've never had a problem again.