Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
#41
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Re: Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
depending on n your year it may fall under a recall
Peter wrote:
> Good afternoon. I'm just posting a followup to our discussion about my
> Jeep Cherokee ABS problem because I know you guys really, really care
> about whether I got it to work or not.
>
> Most of you suggested stomping hard instead of gently on the brakes.
> After the next snowfall I tried this, but whether I stomped gently or
> hard, it made no difference, there seemed to be no response of any kind
> from the ABS. I then read the section about ABS in my glovebox owner's
> guide (should have RTFM to begin with, I suppose) and it said that the
> ABS light should come on for a couple of seconds when you turn on the
> ignition. It isn't lighting up at switch on or at any other time,
> suggesting there really is a fault and it isn't just my imagination.
>
> I opened a box of electrics under the hood, looking for clues, and it
> was full of relays and fuses. There was a diagram inside the lid
> showing what worked what, and there appeared to be three gaps in the
> box where there should have been two fuses and a relay for the ABS.
> Great, I thought, I've found the fault. My joy was short lived though,
> because when I tried to insert the ABS fuses in the places where I
> thought they should be, there were no connectors in the slots and the
> fuses just wiggled around rather aimlessly. So I'm wondering if the
> fusebox design was modified for the Jeep Cherokee 2001 but someone
> forgot to update the diagram.
>
> I was unable to get a workshop manual for this model and date at our
> local Canadian Tire but I'm going to try to order one over the
> Internet.
>
> It looks like my jeep is heading for a date with Jeeps-R-Us to be
> fixed, but if anyone has any further comments / suggestions I'd be
> grateful for them, bearing in mind that I live in Lourdes, Western
> Newfoundland and there is no Jeeps-R-Us around here.
>
> Doug W - you suggested cleaning the ABS computer connector. I wasn't
> able to identify it under the hood, but if you can give me an idea
> where it is and what it looks like I can try that.
>
> Thanks.
Peter wrote:
> Good afternoon. I'm just posting a followup to our discussion about my
> Jeep Cherokee ABS problem because I know you guys really, really care
> about whether I got it to work or not.
>
> Most of you suggested stomping hard instead of gently on the brakes.
> After the next snowfall I tried this, but whether I stomped gently or
> hard, it made no difference, there seemed to be no response of any kind
> from the ABS. I then read the section about ABS in my glovebox owner's
> guide (should have RTFM to begin with, I suppose) and it said that the
> ABS light should come on for a couple of seconds when you turn on the
> ignition. It isn't lighting up at switch on or at any other time,
> suggesting there really is a fault and it isn't just my imagination.
>
> I opened a box of electrics under the hood, looking for clues, and it
> was full of relays and fuses. There was a diagram inside the lid
> showing what worked what, and there appeared to be three gaps in the
> box where there should have been two fuses and a relay for the ABS.
> Great, I thought, I've found the fault. My joy was short lived though,
> because when I tried to insert the ABS fuses in the places where I
> thought they should be, there were no connectors in the slots and the
> fuses just wiggled around rather aimlessly. So I'm wondering if the
> fusebox design was modified for the Jeep Cherokee 2001 but someone
> forgot to update the diagram.
>
> I was unable to get a workshop manual for this model and date at our
> local Canadian Tire but I'm going to try to order one over the
> Internet.
>
> It looks like my jeep is heading for a date with Jeeps-R-Us to be
> fixed, but if anyone has any further comments / suggestions I'd be
> grateful for them, bearing in mind that I live in Lourdes, Western
> Newfoundland and there is no Jeeps-R-Us around here.
>
> Doug W - you suggested cleaning the ABS computer connector. I wasn't
> able to identify it under the hood, but if you can give me an idea
> where it is and what it looks like I can try that.
>
> Thanks.
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
depending on n your year it may fall under a recall
Peter wrote:
> Good afternoon. I'm just posting a followup to our discussion about my
> Jeep Cherokee ABS problem because I know you guys really, really care
> about whether I got it to work or not.
>
> Most of you suggested stomping hard instead of gently on the brakes.
> After the next snowfall I tried this, but whether I stomped gently or
> hard, it made no difference, there seemed to be no response of any kind
> from the ABS. I then read the section about ABS in my glovebox owner's
> guide (should have RTFM to begin with, I suppose) and it said that the
> ABS light should come on for a couple of seconds when you turn on the
> ignition. It isn't lighting up at switch on or at any other time,
> suggesting there really is a fault and it isn't just my imagination.
>
> I opened a box of electrics under the hood, looking for clues, and it
> was full of relays and fuses. There was a diagram inside the lid
> showing what worked what, and there appeared to be three gaps in the
> box where there should have been two fuses and a relay for the ABS.
> Great, I thought, I've found the fault. My joy was short lived though,
> because when I tried to insert the ABS fuses in the places where I
> thought they should be, there were no connectors in the slots and the
> fuses just wiggled around rather aimlessly. So I'm wondering if the
> fusebox design was modified for the Jeep Cherokee 2001 but someone
> forgot to update the diagram.
>
> I was unable to get a workshop manual for this model and date at our
> local Canadian Tire but I'm going to try to order one over the
> Internet.
>
> It looks like my jeep is heading for a date with Jeeps-R-Us to be
> fixed, but if anyone has any further comments / suggestions I'd be
> grateful for them, bearing in mind that I live in Lourdes, Western
> Newfoundland and there is no Jeeps-R-Us around here.
>
> Doug W - you suggested cleaning the ABS computer connector. I wasn't
> able to identify it under the hood, but if you can give me an idea
> where it is and what it looks like I can try that.
>
> Thanks.
Peter wrote:
> Good afternoon. I'm just posting a followup to our discussion about my
> Jeep Cherokee ABS problem because I know you guys really, really care
> about whether I got it to work or not.
>
> Most of you suggested stomping hard instead of gently on the brakes.
> After the next snowfall I tried this, but whether I stomped gently or
> hard, it made no difference, there seemed to be no response of any kind
> from the ABS. I then read the section about ABS in my glovebox owner's
> guide (should have RTFM to begin with, I suppose) and it said that the
> ABS light should come on for a couple of seconds when you turn on the
> ignition. It isn't lighting up at switch on or at any other time,
> suggesting there really is a fault and it isn't just my imagination.
>
> I opened a box of electrics under the hood, looking for clues, and it
> was full of relays and fuses. There was a diagram inside the lid
> showing what worked what, and there appeared to be three gaps in the
> box where there should have been two fuses and a relay for the ABS.
> Great, I thought, I've found the fault. My joy was short lived though,
> because when I tried to insert the ABS fuses in the places where I
> thought they should be, there were no connectors in the slots and the
> fuses just wiggled around rather aimlessly. So I'm wondering if the
> fusebox design was modified for the Jeep Cherokee 2001 but someone
> forgot to update the diagram.
>
> I was unable to get a workshop manual for this model and date at our
> local Canadian Tire but I'm going to try to order one over the
> Internet.
>
> It looks like my jeep is heading for a date with Jeeps-R-Us to be
> fixed, but if anyone has any further comments / suggestions I'd be
> grateful for them, bearing in mind that I live in Lourdes, Western
> Newfoundland and there is no Jeeps-R-Us around here.
>
> Doug W - you suggested cleaning the ABS computer connector. I wasn't
> able to identify it under the hood, but if you can give me an idea
> where it is and what it looks like I can try that.
>
> Thanks.
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
depending on n your year it may fall under a recall
Peter wrote:
> Good afternoon. I'm just posting a followup to our discussion about my
> Jeep Cherokee ABS problem because I know you guys really, really care
> about whether I got it to work or not.
>
> Most of you suggested stomping hard instead of gently on the brakes.
> After the next snowfall I tried this, but whether I stomped gently or
> hard, it made no difference, there seemed to be no response of any kind
> from the ABS. I then read the section about ABS in my glovebox owner's
> guide (should have RTFM to begin with, I suppose) and it said that the
> ABS light should come on for a couple of seconds when you turn on the
> ignition. It isn't lighting up at switch on or at any other time,
> suggesting there really is a fault and it isn't just my imagination.
>
> I opened a box of electrics under the hood, looking for clues, and it
> was full of relays and fuses. There was a diagram inside the lid
> showing what worked what, and there appeared to be three gaps in the
> box where there should have been two fuses and a relay for the ABS.
> Great, I thought, I've found the fault. My joy was short lived though,
> because when I tried to insert the ABS fuses in the places where I
> thought they should be, there were no connectors in the slots and the
> fuses just wiggled around rather aimlessly. So I'm wondering if the
> fusebox design was modified for the Jeep Cherokee 2001 but someone
> forgot to update the diagram.
>
> I was unable to get a workshop manual for this model and date at our
> local Canadian Tire but I'm going to try to order one over the
> Internet.
>
> It looks like my jeep is heading for a date with Jeeps-R-Us to be
> fixed, but if anyone has any further comments / suggestions I'd be
> grateful for them, bearing in mind that I live in Lourdes, Western
> Newfoundland and there is no Jeeps-R-Us around here.
>
> Doug W - you suggested cleaning the ABS computer connector. I wasn't
> able to identify it under the hood, but if you can give me an idea
> where it is and what it looks like I can try that.
>
> Thanks.
Peter wrote:
> Good afternoon. I'm just posting a followup to our discussion about my
> Jeep Cherokee ABS problem because I know you guys really, really care
> about whether I got it to work or not.
>
> Most of you suggested stomping hard instead of gently on the brakes.
> After the next snowfall I tried this, but whether I stomped gently or
> hard, it made no difference, there seemed to be no response of any kind
> from the ABS. I then read the section about ABS in my glovebox owner's
> guide (should have RTFM to begin with, I suppose) and it said that the
> ABS light should come on for a couple of seconds when you turn on the
> ignition. It isn't lighting up at switch on or at any other time,
> suggesting there really is a fault and it isn't just my imagination.
>
> I opened a box of electrics under the hood, looking for clues, and it
> was full of relays and fuses. There was a diagram inside the lid
> showing what worked what, and there appeared to be three gaps in the
> box where there should have been two fuses and a relay for the ABS.
> Great, I thought, I've found the fault. My joy was short lived though,
> because when I tried to insert the ABS fuses in the places where I
> thought they should be, there were no connectors in the slots and the
> fuses just wiggled around rather aimlessly. So I'm wondering if the
> fusebox design was modified for the Jeep Cherokee 2001 but someone
> forgot to update the diagram.
>
> I was unable to get a workshop manual for this model and date at our
> local Canadian Tire but I'm going to try to order one over the
> Internet.
>
> It looks like my jeep is heading for a date with Jeeps-R-Us to be
> fixed, but if anyone has any further comments / suggestions I'd be
> grateful for them, bearing in mind that I live in Lourdes, Western
> Newfoundland and there is no Jeeps-R-Us around here.
>
> Doug W - you suggested cleaning the ABS computer connector. I wasn't
> able to identify it under the hood, but if you can give me an idea
> where it is and what it looks like I can try that.
>
> Thanks.
#44
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Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
Good evening. Thank you all for your interest in, and help with, my
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
Good evening. Thank you all for your interest in, and help with, my
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
Good evening. Thank you all for your interest in, and help with, my
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
Peter,
This is what an ABS unit will look like if you have one. The pix are of my
2002 WJ but your 2001 XJ should be similar if not identical.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2113025862
"Peter" <petgray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138243427.400857.26200@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
Good evening. Thank you all for your interest in, and help with, my
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
This is what an ABS unit will look like if you have one. The pix are of my
2002 WJ but your 2001 XJ should be similar if not identical.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2113025862
"Peter" <petgray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138243427.400857.26200@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
Good evening. Thank you all for your interest in, and help with, my
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
Peter,
This is what an ABS unit will look like if you have one. The pix are of my
2002 WJ but your 2001 XJ should be similar if not identical.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2113025862
"Peter" <petgray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138243427.400857.26200@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
Good evening. Thank you all for your interest in, and help with, my
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
This is what an ABS unit will look like if you have one. The pix are of my
2002 WJ but your 2001 XJ should be similar if not identical.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2113025862
"Peter" <petgray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138243427.400857.26200@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
Good evening. Thank you all for your interest in, and help with, my
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
Peter,
This is what an ABS unit will look like if you have one. The pix are of my
2002 WJ but your 2001 XJ should be similar if not identical.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2113025862
"Peter" <petgray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138243427.400857.26200@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
Good evening. Thank you all for your interest in, and help with, my
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
This is what an ABS unit will look like if you have one. The pix are of my
2002 WJ but your 2001 XJ should be similar if not identical.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2113025862
"Peter" <petgray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138243427.400857.26200@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
Good evening. Thank you all for your interest in, and help with, my
ABS problem. Here is an exchange of correspondence which took place
today with the dealer who sold me the vehicle. It's pretty self
explanatory and as you can see, there is an ongoing situation here....
Dear Mr Newfoundland Used Car Dealer (not his real name)
Further to our recent exchange of e-mails about the problems I was
having
with my jeep's ABS, I have some news which is not welcome to either of
us -
it doesn't appear to have any ABS. I am still waiting for
DaimlerChrysler
Canada to send me the official build sheet for the vehicle, but from my
examination of the electrical and braking systems, and comparing them
with
the relevant diagrams from the sections of the owners handbook and
workshop
manual which describe the ABS, I am 99% certain that this vehicle does
not
have, and has never had, ABS. You are of course welcome to examine it
yourself to confirm that.
Could I remind you that I bought it on the understanding that it did
have
ABS, and I still have the ****** Motors vehicle description which
states
that. If this is the case, it is a little surprising that your
mechanic
examined the (non-existent) ABS on 13 January and found it to be
"operating
normal" but maybe the less said about that the better.
What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
to
have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
and
airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
safety
for the children. She is not going to be at all pleased about this, in
fact, I am hoping to get this fixed before she finds out about it. As
far
as I can see there are two options:
1. Have ABS fitted to the vehicle at your expense. I am waiting to
hear
from DaimlerChrysler Canada to see if this is possible. It should be
possible, although it may be expensive. As I am otherwise happy with
the
vehicle, this would probably be my preferred option.
2. A full refund of the purchase price and associated expenses, either
in
cash or set against the purchase of another Humber Motors vehicle which
does
have ABS and the other safety features I have mentioned. This should
include:
19,540.50 Purchase price
885.50 Service contract
568.45 Fitting of four winter tires
159.95 Corrosion free treament
76.02 Winter maintenance service
200.00 Replacement of water pump
35.65 Examination of the ABS
Needless to say, I am not very happy about this.
Regards
Peter
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Hello Peter
I`ve spoke to the mechanic he advises that you stop in to the shop
anytime
between 8:00 a.m and 5:00 p.m so they can point out the components of
ABS
system
regards **** *******
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OK... but he'll have some difficulty if the components aren't there.
Please
see forwarded e-mail from DaimlerChrysler (which arrived this
afternoon) who
seem to think that ABS was not fitted to this vehicle at the time of
manufacture. But I'll bring it in anyway - probably Friday afternoon.
Regards, Peter.
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Dear ** ****:
We have received your email of January 19, 2006 regarding your 2001
Jeep
Cherokee.
We note that, at the time of manufacturing, your vehicle was equipped
with Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes. If you are seeking information
on having ABS installed on your vehicle please contact your local
DaimlerChrysler dealership (City Motors Chrysler # 709-637-1000) as
they
are equipped with any technical information.
Further, with respect to obtaining a service manual, DaimlerChrysler
Canada has recruited the services of an independent company to
distribute owners and service manuals. As such, please accept our
referral to contact Resolve Canada at 1-800-387-1143 to place your
order. Resolve will charge a fee for their services.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review this matter with you.
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Re: Jeep Cherokee ABS problem
Not that it has any bearing on your dispute with the dealer but
depending on the road surfaces that you drive on ABS might not be a
safety feature. ABS was derived from airliner technology and was
designed for braking in a straight forward direction on clean, wet
surfaces. On loose surfaces it will considerably lengthen your stopping
distance.
As for your dispute with the dealer (which, one hopes, is simply a
mistake on their part), is there some sort of consumer advocate office
in your neck of the woods? In some states in your Neighbor To The South
there are governmental offices that specifically deal with automobile
sales and repairs.
Peter wrote:
[snip]
> What do you propose to do about this? It is abolutely essential for me
> to have a vehicle with a full set of safety features including ABS, 4WD
> and airbags, not least because we have three small children who will be
> travelling in the vehicle, and my wife is meticulous about vehicle
[snip]