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12-10-2005, 06:51 PM
#131
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Re: OT: Now changing air in Tires..
Perhaps they were selling used air as new?
Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with
both arms in the air.
billy ray proclaimed:
> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well known
> that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a penny at the
> expense of consumer safety.
>
> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
> doesn't always fit correctly.
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>
>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem but
>>
>>it
>>
>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>
>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>wheels
>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>
>>doesn't
>>
>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>until
>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
>
Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with
both arms in the air.
billy ray proclaimed:
> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well known
> that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a penny at the
> expense of consumer safety.
>
> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
> doesn't always fit correctly.
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>
>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem but
>>
>>it
>>
>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>
>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>wheels
>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>
>>doesn't
>>
>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>until
>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
>
12-10-2005, 06:51 PM
#132
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT: Now changing air in Tires..
Perhaps they were selling used air as new?
Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with
both arms in the air.
billy ray proclaimed:
> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well known
> that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a penny at the
> expense of consumer safety.
>
> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
> doesn't always fit correctly.
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>
>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem but
>>
>>it
>>
>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>
>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>wheels
>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>
>>doesn't
>>
>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>until
>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
>
Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with
both arms in the air.
billy ray proclaimed:
> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well known
> that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a penny at the
> expense of consumer safety.
>
> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
> doesn't always fit correctly.
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>
>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem but
>>
>>it
>>
>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>
>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>wheels
>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>
>>doesn't
>>
>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>until
>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
>
12-10-2005, 06:51 PM
#133
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT: Now changing air in Tires..
Perhaps they were selling used air as new?
Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with
both arms in the air.
billy ray proclaimed:
> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well known
> that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a penny at the
> expense of consumer safety.
>
> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
> doesn't always fit correctly.
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>
>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem but
>>
>>it
>>
>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>
>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>wheels
>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>
>>doesn't
>>
>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>until
>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
>
Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with
both arms in the air.
billy ray proclaimed:
> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well known
> that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a penny at the
> expense of consumer safety.
>
> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
> doesn't always fit correctly.
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>
>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem but
>>
>>it
>>
>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>
>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>wheels
>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>
>>doesn't
>>
>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>until
>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
>
12-10-2005, 09:39 PM
#134
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT: Now changing air in Tires..
The French air standard is metric.
On another French note:
The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:yvydnacWdN2D9wbeRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Perhaps they were selling used air as new?
>
> Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with both
> arms in the air.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well
>> known that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a
>> penny at the expense of consumer safety.
>>
>> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
>> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
>> doesn't always fit correctly.
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>
>>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem
>>>>but
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>>
>>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>>wheels
>>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>>
>>>doesn't
>>>
>>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>>until
>>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
On another French note:
The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:yvydnacWdN2D9wbeRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Perhaps they were selling used air as new?
>
> Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with both
> arms in the air.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well
>> known that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a
>> penny at the expense of consumer safety.
>>
>> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
>> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
>> doesn't always fit correctly.
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>
>>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem
>>>>but
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>>
>>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>>wheels
>>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>>
>>>doesn't
>>>
>>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>>until
>>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
12-10-2005, 09:39 PM
#135
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT: Now changing air in Tires..
The French air standard is metric.
On another French note:
The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:yvydnacWdN2D9wbeRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Perhaps they were selling used air as new?
>
> Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with both
> arms in the air.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well
>> known that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a
>> penny at the expense of consumer safety.
>>
>> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
>> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
>> doesn't always fit correctly.
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>
>>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem
>>>>but
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>>
>>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>>wheels
>>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>>
>>>doesn't
>>>
>>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>>until
>>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
On another French note:
The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:yvydnacWdN2D9wbeRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Perhaps they were selling used air as new?
>
> Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with both
> arms in the air.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well
>> known that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a
>> penny at the expense of consumer safety.
>>
>> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
>> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
>> doesn't always fit correctly.
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>
>>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem
>>>>but
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>>
>>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>>wheels
>>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>>
>>>doesn't
>>>
>>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>>until
>>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
12-10-2005, 09:39 PM
#136
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT: Now changing air in Tires..
The French air standard is metric.
On another French note:
The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:yvydnacWdN2D9wbeRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Perhaps they were selling used air as new?
>
> Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with both
> arms in the air.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well
>> known that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a
>> penny at the expense of consumer safety.
>>
>> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
>> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
>> doesn't always fit correctly.
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>
>>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem
>>>>but
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>>
>>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>>wheels
>>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>>
>>>doesn't
>>>
>>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>>until
>>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
On another French note:
The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:yvydnacWdN2D9wbeRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Perhaps they were selling used air as new?
>
> Besides a while ago you claimed it was french air... which comes with both
> arms in the air.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> Sounds plausible especially if the got a "deal" on the air. It is well
>> known that both companies will cut any corner to save a fraction of a
>> penny at the expense of consumer safety.
>>
>> The problem they found with the Canadian Tire air was that it was metric.
>> In some tire sizes metric air, like metric wrenches, can be used but it
>> doesn't always fit correctly.
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:RHBmf.6087$iz3.5300@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>
>>>Is that why Ford had problems with Firestone tyres ? Wrong air ?
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>news:9fbd7$439a551a$4831b233$17364@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>That was the direction of the original investigation into the problem
>>>>but
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>>was eventually found to be far simpler.
>>>>
>>>>Canadian Tire uses air meeting the French standards while tires and
>>>>wheels
>>>>still meet the original standards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:OJydnQyaPM6Q2AfenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>> Too much pollution from south of the border in it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you using air from Canadian Tire? The stuff they distribute
>>>
>>>doesn't
>>>
>>>>>>meet the current DC specs for newer tires
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:43999856.DECC3BE1@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just plain old shop air seems to do it. It lasts about a year or
>>>>>>>until
>>>>>>>the next cold snap before it all leaks out overnight, then the shop
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>to open up the tire and put fresh air in. This is usually good for
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>rest of the year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They have 'never' found the leak(s) and all 4 keep needing to get the
>>>>>>>air changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hear using nitrogen "only" is all the rage.
>>>>>>>>Where do you get it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, dammit, my wife just phoned to tell me it's time once again to
>>>>>>>>>change the air in the Cherokee's front tires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Grrrr, every time it gets cold out, I have to take it in for an air
>>>>>>>>>change in at least one tire. I hope last years change is still
>>>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>>>warranty so they can once again change the air for free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike (Who isn't kidding)
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Be sure and have the air in your tires changed, too.
>>>>>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FrankW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My local Dealer suggests I should
>>>>>>>>>>>"purge" the injectors every so many Km's
>>>>>>>>>>>At a very high price too.
>>>>>>>>>>>What about this purging method?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
12-10-2005, 10:09 PM
#137
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT: Now changing air in Tires..
Sounds like the new Democratic motto, retreat and surrender.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> The French air standard is metric.
>
> On another French note:
> The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
> raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
> in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
>
> The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
> destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> The French air standard is metric.
>
> On another French note:
> The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
> raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
> in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
>
> The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
> destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
12-10-2005, 10:09 PM
#138
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT: Now changing air in Tires..
Sounds like the new Democratic motto, retreat and surrender.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> The French air standard is metric.
>
> On another French note:
> The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
> raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
> in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
>
> The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
> destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> The French air standard is metric.
>
> On another French note:
> The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
> raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
> in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
>
> The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
> destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
12-10-2005, 10:09 PM
#139
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT: Now changing air in Tires..
Sounds like the new Democratic motto, retreat and surrender.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> The French air standard is metric.
>
> On another French note:
> The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
> raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
> in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
>
> The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
> destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> The French air standard is metric.
>
> On another French note:
> The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
> raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels
> in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
>
> The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
> destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.
12-10-2005, 10:27 PM
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Re: OT: Now changing air in Tires..
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
behind me."
General George S. Patton.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your
accordion."
Norman Schwartzkopf.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:439B9879.B37AEBFA@***.net...
> Sounds like the new Democratic motto, retreat and surrender.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> The French air standard is metric.
>>
>> On another French note:
>> The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
>> raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher
>> levels
>> in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
>>
>> The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
>> destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their
>> military.
behind me."
General George S. Patton.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your
accordion."
Norman Schwartzkopf.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:439B9879.B37AEBFA@***.net...
> Sounds like the new Democratic motto, retreat and surrender.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> The French air standard is metric.
>>
>> On another French note:
>> The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced that it has
>> raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher
>> levels
>> in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
>>
>> The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which
>> destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their
>> military.