Ignition woes
08-23-2003, 11:20 PM
#11
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Re: Ignition woes
I rewired my 86 using the Haynes manual when I did a frame up and 'glass
body build...
It all worked first crack of the key.
Solenoids are strange.....
The one that came in mine when I bought the Jeep didn't have power to
the second post when the key was in start, it had power all the time.
Someone had cut the second wire that goes to the coil at the solenoid
and hooked it to the first wire from the key.
I left it that way because it was soldered in there nice.
If the solenoid is right for the ignition, it will have continuity
between the two pins with no power applied. If no 'beep' on the ohm
meter, wrong solenoid.
You need to make sure the wire at the solenoid has a tag with the ohm
meter to the coil too. Could be a break at the crimp fitting where the
resistor wire hooks into the coil wire.
The resistor wire that powers the coil when the key is in 'run' has a
crimp connector inside the harness that tags the solenoid wire close to
the coil.
Mike
Ted wrote:
>
> you wouldn't happen to have a picture you could send me, do you? Cuz, from
> everything I can compare against my manual, It is all hooked up correctly.
> I bet I went over the wiring a dozen times.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F47FC06.E2694DF2@sympatico.ca...
> > Nope, it isn't all hooked up.
> >
> > You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to the
> > coil positive.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Ted wrote:
> > >
> > > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> > >
> > > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when releasing
> the
> > > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the
> coil. I
> > > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over against
> my
> > > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> > >
> > > --
> > > o_o_o_o
> > > /| ,[_____],
> > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ted
body build...
It all worked first crack of the key.
Solenoids are strange.....
The one that came in mine when I bought the Jeep didn't have power to
the second post when the key was in start, it had power all the time.
Someone had cut the second wire that goes to the coil at the solenoid
and hooked it to the first wire from the key.
I left it that way because it was soldered in there nice.
If the solenoid is right for the ignition, it will have continuity
between the two pins with no power applied. If no 'beep' on the ohm
meter, wrong solenoid.
You need to make sure the wire at the solenoid has a tag with the ohm
meter to the coil too. Could be a break at the crimp fitting where the
resistor wire hooks into the coil wire.
The resistor wire that powers the coil when the key is in 'run' has a
crimp connector inside the harness that tags the solenoid wire close to
the coil.
Mike
Ted wrote:
>
> you wouldn't happen to have a picture you could send me, do you? Cuz, from
> everything I can compare against my manual, It is all hooked up correctly.
> I bet I went over the wiring a dozen times.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F47FC06.E2694DF2@sympatico.ca...
> > Nope, it isn't all hooked up.
> >
> > You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to the
> > coil positive.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Ted wrote:
> > >
> > > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> > >
> > > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when releasing
> the
> > > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the
> coil. I
> > > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over against
> my
> > > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> > >
> > > --
> > > o_o_o_o
> > > /| ,[_____],
> > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ted
08-24-2003, 10:18 AM
#12
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Re: Ignition woes
Thanks Mike and Bill.
I isolated it down to broken wire next to a splice that was done for the TR
ignition upgrade. After I repaired that, it fired right up. here's a pic
of my 83 cj7.
http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj1.JPG
http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj2.JPG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F482EE5.E42606B1@sympatico.ca...
> I rewired my 86 using the Haynes manual when I did a frame up and 'glass
> body build...
>
> It all worked first crack of the key.
>
> Solenoids are strange.....
>
> The one that came in mine when I bought the Jeep didn't have power to
> the second post when the key was in start, it had power all the time.
>
> Someone had cut the second wire that goes to the coil at the solenoid
> and hooked it to the first wire from the key.
>
> I left it that way because it was soldered in there nice.
>
> If the solenoid is right for the ignition, it will have continuity
> between the two pins with no power applied. If no 'beep' on the ohm
> meter, wrong solenoid.
>
> You need to make sure the wire at the solenoid has a tag with the ohm
> meter to the coil too. Could be a break at the crimp fitting where the
> resistor wire hooks into the coil wire.
>
> The resistor wire that powers the coil when the key is in 'run' has a
> crimp connector inside the harness that tags the solenoid wire close to
> the coil.
>
> Mike
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > you wouldn't happen to have a picture you could send me, do you? Cuz,
from
> > everything I can compare against my manual, It is all hooked up
correctly.
> > I bet I went over the wiring a dozen times.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F47FC06.E2694DF2@sympatico.ca...
> > > Nope, it isn't all hooked up.
> > >
> > > You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to
the
> > > coil positive.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Ted wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> > > >
> > > > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when
releasing
> > the
> > > > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the
> > coil. I
> > > > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over
against
> > my
> > > > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > o_o_o_o
> > > > /| ,[_____],
> > > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ted
I isolated it down to broken wire next to a splice that was done for the TR
ignition upgrade. After I repaired that, it fired right up. here's a pic
of my 83 cj7.
http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj1.JPG
http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj2.JPG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F482EE5.E42606B1@sympatico.ca...
> I rewired my 86 using the Haynes manual when I did a frame up and 'glass
> body build...
>
> It all worked first crack of the key.
>
> Solenoids are strange.....
>
> The one that came in mine when I bought the Jeep didn't have power to
> the second post when the key was in start, it had power all the time.
>
> Someone had cut the second wire that goes to the coil at the solenoid
> and hooked it to the first wire from the key.
>
> I left it that way because it was soldered in there nice.
>
> If the solenoid is right for the ignition, it will have continuity
> between the two pins with no power applied. If no 'beep' on the ohm
> meter, wrong solenoid.
>
> You need to make sure the wire at the solenoid has a tag with the ohm
> meter to the coil too. Could be a break at the crimp fitting where the
> resistor wire hooks into the coil wire.
>
> The resistor wire that powers the coil when the key is in 'run' has a
> crimp connector inside the harness that tags the solenoid wire close to
> the coil.
>
> Mike
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > you wouldn't happen to have a picture you could send me, do you? Cuz,
from
> > everything I can compare against my manual, It is all hooked up
correctly.
> > I bet I went over the wiring a dozen times.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F47FC06.E2694DF2@sympatico.ca...
> > > Nope, it isn't all hooked up.
> > >
> > > You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to
the
> > > coil positive.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Ted wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> > > >
> > > > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when
releasing
> > the
> > > > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the
> > coil. I
> > > > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over
against
> > my
> > > > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > o_o_o_o
> > > > /| ,[_____],
> > > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ted
08-24-2003, 10:18 AM
#13
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Re: Ignition woes
Thanks Mike and Bill.
I isolated it down to broken wire next to a splice that was done for the TR
ignition upgrade. After I repaired that, it fired right up. here's a pic
of my 83 cj7.
http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj1.JPG
http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj2.JPG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F482EE5.E42606B1@sympatico.ca...
> I rewired my 86 using the Haynes manual when I did a frame up and 'glass
> body build...
>
> It all worked first crack of the key.
>
> Solenoids are strange.....
>
> The one that came in mine when I bought the Jeep didn't have power to
> the second post when the key was in start, it had power all the time.
>
> Someone had cut the second wire that goes to the coil at the solenoid
> and hooked it to the first wire from the key.
>
> I left it that way because it was soldered in there nice.
>
> If the solenoid is right for the ignition, it will have continuity
> between the two pins with no power applied. If no 'beep' on the ohm
> meter, wrong solenoid.
>
> You need to make sure the wire at the solenoid has a tag with the ohm
> meter to the coil too. Could be a break at the crimp fitting where the
> resistor wire hooks into the coil wire.
>
> The resistor wire that powers the coil when the key is in 'run' has a
> crimp connector inside the harness that tags the solenoid wire close to
> the coil.
>
> Mike
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > you wouldn't happen to have a picture you could send me, do you? Cuz,
from
> > everything I can compare against my manual, It is all hooked up
correctly.
> > I bet I went over the wiring a dozen times.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F47FC06.E2694DF2@sympatico.ca...
> > > Nope, it isn't all hooked up.
> > >
> > > You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to
the
> > > coil positive.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Ted wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> > > >
> > > > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when
releasing
> > the
> > > > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the
> > coil. I
> > > > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over
against
> > my
> > > > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > o_o_o_o
> > > > /| ,[_____],
> > > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ted
I isolated it down to broken wire next to a splice that was done for the TR
ignition upgrade. After I repaired that, it fired right up. here's a pic
of my 83 cj7.
http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj1.JPG
http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj2.JPG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F482EE5.E42606B1@sympatico.ca...
> I rewired my 86 using the Haynes manual when I did a frame up and 'glass
> body build...
>
> It all worked first crack of the key.
>
> Solenoids are strange.....
>
> The one that came in mine when I bought the Jeep didn't have power to
> the second post when the key was in start, it had power all the time.
>
> Someone had cut the second wire that goes to the coil at the solenoid
> and hooked it to the first wire from the key.
>
> I left it that way because it was soldered in there nice.
>
> If the solenoid is right for the ignition, it will have continuity
> between the two pins with no power applied. If no 'beep' on the ohm
> meter, wrong solenoid.
>
> You need to make sure the wire at the solenoid has a tag with the ohm
> meter to the coil too. Could be a break at the crimp fitting where the
> resistor wire hooks into the coil wire.
>
> The resistor wire that powers the coil when the key is in 'run' has a
> crimp connector inside the harness that tags the solenoid wire close to
> the coil.
>
> Mike
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > you wouldn't happen to have a picture you could send me, do you? Cuz,
from
> > everything I can compare against my manual, It is all hooked up
correctly.
> > I bet I went over the wiring a dozen times.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F47FC06.E2694DF2@sympatico.ca...
> > > Nope, it isn't all hooked up.
> > >
> > > You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to
the
> > > coil positive.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Ted wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> > > >
> > > > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when
releasing
> > the
> > > > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the
> > coil. I
> > > > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over
against
> > my
> > > > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > o_o_o_o
> > > > /| ,[_____],
> > > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ted
08-24-2003, 11:17 AM
#14
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Re: Ignition woes
Cool. I can see it never rains in your state either. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Ted wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike and Bill.
>
> I isolated it down to broken wire next to a splice that was done for the TR
> ignition upgrade. After I repaired that, it fired right up. here's a pic
> of my 83 cj7.
>
> http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj1.JPG
> http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj2.JPG
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike and Bill.
>
> I isolated it down to broken wire next to a splice that was done for the TR
> ignition upgrade. After I repaired that, it fired right up. here's a pic
> of my 83 cj7.
>
> http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj1.JPG
> http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj2.JPG
08-24-2003, 11:17 AM
#15
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Re: Ignition woes
Cool. I can see it never rains in your state either. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike and Bill.
>
> I isolated it down to broken wire next to a splice that was done for the TR
> ignition upgrade. After I repaired that, it fired right up. here's a pic
> of my 83 cj7.
>
> http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj1.JPG
> http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj2.JPG
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike and Bill.
>
> I isolated it down to broken wire next to a splice that was done for the TR
> ignition upgrade. After I repaired that, it fired right up. here's a pic
> of my 83 cj7.
>
> http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj1.JPG
> http://home.houston.rr.com/ltd17023/cj2.JPG
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