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Ted 08-23-2003 06:54 PM

Ignition woes
 
I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258

I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when releasing the
key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the coil. I
just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over against my
Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.


--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)



Thanks,
Ted



Mike Romain 08-23-2003 07:43 PM

Re: Ignition woes
 
Nope, it isn't all hooked up.

You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to the
coil positive.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Ted wrote:
>
> I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
>
> I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when releasing the
> key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the coil. I
> just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over against my
> Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>
> Thanks,
> Ted


Mike Romain 08-23-2003 07:43 PM

Re: Ignition woes
 
Nope, it isn't all hooked up.

You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to the
coil positive.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Ted wrote:
>
> I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
>
> I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when releasing the
> key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the coil. I
> just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over against my
> Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>
> Thanks,
> Ted


Ted 08-23-2003 09:18 PM

Re: Ignition woes
 
you wouldn't happen to have a picture you could send me, do you? Cuz, from
everything I can compare against my manual, It is all hooked up correctly.
I bet I went over the wiring a dozen times.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F47FC06.E2694DF2@sympatico.ca...
> Nope, it isn't all hooked up.
>
> You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to the
> coil positive.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> >
> > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when releasing

the
> > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the

coil. I
> > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over against

my
> > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ted




Ted 08-23-2003 09:18 PM

Re: Ignition woes
 
you wouldn't happen to have a picture you could send me, do you? Cuz, from
everything I can compare against my manual, It is all hooked up correctly.
I bet I went over the wiring a dozen times.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F47FC06.E2694DF2@sympatico.ca...
> Nope, it isn't all hooked up.
>
> You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to the
> coil positive.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> >
> > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when releasing

the
> > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the

coil. I
> > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over against

my
> > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ted




Ted 08-23-2003 09:20 PM

Re: Ignition woes
 
what side of the solenoid should this be hooked to?


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F47F5F5.8B4AA197@cox.net...
> Hi Ted,
> The wire from the starter solenoid to the coil (resistor bypass) is
> not connected.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> >
> > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when releasing

the
> > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the

coil. I
> > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over against

my
> > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ted




Ted 08-23-2003 09:20 PM

Re: Ignition woes
 
what side of the solenoid should this be hooked to?


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F47F5F5.8B4AA197@cox.net...
> Hi Ted,
> The wire from the starter solenoid to the coil (resistor bypass) is
> not connected.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> >
> > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when releasing

the
> > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the

coil. I
> > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over against

my
> > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ted




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-23-2003 10:24 PM

Re: Ignition woes
 
Hi Ted,
A typical solenoid will look like this:
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/cj8/3230406.jpg Having a large battery
cable running to one side and another running to the starter. Usually
the wire running from the ignition switch hooks next to the battery side
and next to the starter side is the coil bypass.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ted wrote:
>
> what side of the solenoid should this be hooked to?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-23-2003 10:24 PM

Re: Ignition woes
 
Hi Ted,
A typical solenoid will look like this:
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/cj8/3230406.jpg Having a large battery
cable running to one side and another running to the starter. Usually
the wire running from the ignition switch hooks next to the battery side
and next to the starter side is the coil bypass.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ted wrote:
>
> what side of the solenoid should this be hooked to?


Mike Romain 08-23-2003 11:20 PM

Re: Ignition woes
 
I rewired my 86 using the Haynes manual when I did a frame up and 'glass
body build...

It all worked first crack of the key.

Solenoids are strange.....

The one that came in mine when I bought the Jeep didn't have power to
the second post when the key was in start, it had power all the time.

Someone had cut the second wire that goes to the coil at the solenoid
and hooked it to the first wire from the key.

I left it that way because it was soldered in there nice.

If the solenoid is right for the ignition, it will have continuity
between the two pins with no power applied. If no 'beep' on the ohm
meter, wrong solenoid.

You need to make sure the wire at the solenoid has a tag with the ohm
meter to the coil too. Could be a break at the crimp fitting where the
resistor wire hooks into the coil wire.

The resistor wire that powers the coil when the key is in 'run' has a
crimp connector inside the harness that tags the solenoid wire close to
the coil.

Mike

Ted wrote:
>
> you wouldn't happen to have a picture you could send me, do you? Cuz, from
> everything I can compare against my manual, It is all hooked up correctly.
> I bet I went over the wiring a dozen times.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F47FC06.E2694DF2@sympatico.ca...
> > Nope, it isn't all hooked up.
> >
> > You are missing the wire from the starter solenoid on the fender to the
> > coil positive.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Ted wrote:
> > >
> > > I need help with my 83 CJ7 w/258
> > >
> > > I get no spark when cranking the engine over. However, when releasing

> the
> > > key from the start position, I get a short burst of spark from the

> coil. I
> > > just reinstalled the wiring harness and checked everything over against

> my
> > > Haynes manual and all is connected correctly.
> > >
> > > --
> > > o_o_o_o
> > > /| ,[_____],
> > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ted



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