I own a lemon
#141
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Re: I own a lemon
lemonowner did pass the time by typing:
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership of
> a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
> you were thinking of buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
Ok.. step by step.
1) AC. the accumulator doesn't just blow, Mechanical failure is always
a possibility but those are high pressure vessels. They can be overfilled
and the sensor switch can leak. Some had a recall for failure but not your
model year.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/Fixes...essure-low.jpg
Your AC is suffering badly. I'm wondering if it was severely overcharged
or someone put too much oil in the system. The evaporator coil (inside coil)
is difficult to service. I'm leaning toward a severe over-pressure caused by
too much oil or refrigerant in the system.
2) Exhaust header. Oh yes... miserable piece of "crapsmanship" if ever
there was one. The all break. Replaced mine with a Banks header.
http://members.***.net/douglas.wilson/banks/
3) Nylock nuts.. on an exhaust header! Now that is just incompetence in
action. Stainless steel with antiseize is the way to go.
4) Pads and calipers.... Pads and rotor I would believe, but not the
caliper unless the pad ripped out and the piston got eaten. But even then
the piston can be replaced, all depends on the amount of damage done.
I went with Stillen rotors and Performance Friction pads. Replacing only
the pads and rotor takes all of an hour and can be done with minimal tools.
5) Battery... sometimes they do that. You need to make sure all the connections
are clean and free of corrosion. Also make sure the battery is properly filled
and the electrolyte is at the proper strength. Have someone check the charging
system unless you can do it yourself.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership of
> a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
> you were thinking of buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
Ok.. step by step.
1) AC. the accumulator doesn't just blow, Mechanical failure is always
a possibility but those are high pressure vessels. They can be overfilled
and the sensor switch can leak. Some had a recall for failure but not your
model year.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/Fixes...essure-low.jpg
Your AC is suffering badly. I'm wondering if it was severely overcharged
or someone put too much oil in the system. The evaporator coil (inside coil)
is difficult to service. I'm leaning toward a severe over-pressure caused by
too much oil or refrigerant in the system.
2) Exhaust header. Oh yes... miserable piece of "crapsmanship" if ever
there was one. The all break. Replaced mine with a Banks header.
http://members.***.net/douglas.wilson/banks/
3) Nylock nuts.. on an exhaust header! Now that is just incompetence in
action. Stainless steel with antiseize is the way to go.
4) Pads and calipers.... Pads and rotor I would believe, but not the
caliper unless the pad ripped out and the piston got eaten. But even then
the piston can be replaced, all depends on the amount of damage done.
I went with Stillen rotors and Performance Friction pads. Replacing only
the pads and rotor takes all of an hour and can be done with minimal tools.
5) Battery... sometimes they do that. You need to make sure all the connections
are clean and free of corrosion. Also make sure the battery is properly filled
and the electrolyte is at the proper strength. Have someone check the charging
system unless you can do it yourself.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
#142
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Re: I own a lemon
Wahhhh. I own 4 XJs, 1 CJ and 1YJ
1990 Renix (now that really sux!) Fixed it up, cut and welded, 32" tires,
goes where I want it. Bought USED!
1994 YJ 4.0 - Fender cut, welded front and rear, 2.5" lift. No problems.
Bought it used with 84,000 miles on it. Bought USED, no problems other than
routine maintenace.
1983 CJ8 - 198,000 miles, needs engine rebuilt. Not too bad for a USED
Jeep.
1986 XJ - Had to replace the engine at 200,000. GM 2.8, still not too bad
for USED.
1992 XJ - 185,000 miles. Replaced the engine, just wanted more power. Put
in a slight modified 1997 4.0 HO engine (both were bought USED) Daily
driver and weekend warrior. Still going strong.
1986 XJ - Another 2.8 (glutton for punishment) Bought used and abused.
Previous owner counldn't get it running. He hated the Jeep. Got it home,
tune up, carb cleaned, runs good now!
All I own now are Jeeps. Everything was bought used (and sometimes
abused). Before I bought any of them, I carefully checked them out (engine,
tranny, suspension, etc). I maintain all my vehicles like any auto should
be. Sounds like the previous owner(s) may not have done anything. Of
course, the BUYER should check or have the vehicle checked out throughly
before laying down the cash.
My shop does pre-purchase inspections. We check everything we can think
of and whatever the customer want us to check. Maybe you should have taken
it to a trusted auto technician before you bought it. Of course, somethings
just plain wear out and can't be caught, but that goes with owning any
vehicle.
Sorry you got a lemon, but that is the way things go sometimes!!
jduchock
"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>
>
>
1990 Renix (now that really sux!) Fixed it up, cut and welded, 32" tires,
goes where I want it. Bought USED!
1994 YJ 4.0 - Fender cut, welded front and rear, 2.5" lift. No problems.
Bought it used with 84,000 miles on it. Bought USED, no problems other than
routine maintenace.
1983 CJ8 - 198,000 miles, needs engine rebuilt. Not too bad for a USED
Jeep.
1986 XJ - Had to replace the engine at 200,000. GM 2.8, still not too bad
for USED.
1992 XJ - 185,000 miles. Replaced the engine, just wanted more power. Put
in a slight modified 1997 4.0 HO engine (both were bought USED) Daily
driver and weekend warrior. Still going strong.
1986 XJ - Another 2.8 (glutton for punishment) Bought used and abused.
Previous owner counldn't get it running. He hated the Jeep. Got it home,
tune up, carb cleaned, runs good now!
All I own now are Jeeps. Everything was bought used (and sometimes
abused). Before I bought any of them, I carefully checked them out (engine,
tranny, suspension, etc). I maintain all my vehicles like any auto should
be. Sounds like the previous owner(s) may not have done anything. Of
course, the BUYER should check or have the vehicle checked out throughly
before laying down the cash.
My shop does pre-purchase inspections. We check everything we can think
of and whatever the customer want us to check. Maybe you should have taken
it to a trusted auto technician before you bought it. Of course, somethings
just plain wear out and can't be caught, but that goes with owning any
vehicle.
Sorry you got a lemon, but that is the way things go sometimes!!
jduchock
"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>
>
>
#143
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Re: I own a lemon
Wahhhh. I own 4 XJs, 1 CJ and 1YJ
1990 Renix (now that really sux!) Fixed it up, cut and welded, 32" tires,
goes where I want it. Bought USED!
1994 YJ 4.0 - Fender cut, welded front and rear, 2.5" lift. No problems.
Bought it used with 84,000 miles on it. Bought USED, no problems other than
routine maintenace.
1983 CJ8 - 198,000 miles, needs engine rebuilt. Not too bad for a USED
Jeep.
1986 XJ - Had to replace the engine at 200,000. GM 2.8, still not too bad
for USED.
1992 XJ - 185,000 miles. Replaced the engine, just wanted more power. Put
in a slight modified 1997 4.0 HO engine (both were bought USED) Daily
driver and weekend warrior. Still going strong.
1986 XJ - Another 2.8 (glutton for punishment) Bought used and abused.
Previous owner counldn't get it running. He hated the Jeep. Got it home,
tune up, carb cleaned, runs good now!
All I own now are Jeeps. Everything was bought used (and sometimes
abused). Before I bought any of them, I carefully checked them out (engine,
tranny, suspension, etc). I maintain all my vehicles like any auto should
be. Sounds like the previous owner(s) may not have done anything. Of
course, the BUYER should check or have the vehicle checked out throughly
before laying down the cash.
My shop does pre-purchase inspections. We check everything we can think
of and whatever the customer want us to check. Maybe you should have taken
it to a trusted auto technician before you bought it. Of course, somethings
just plain wear out and can't be caught, but that goes with owning any
vehicle.
Sorry you got a lemon, but that is the way things go sometimes!!
jduchock
"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>
>
>
1990 Renix (now that really sux!) Fixed it up, cut and welded, 32" tires,
goes where I want it. Bought USED!
1994 YJ 4.0 - Fender cut, welded front and rear, 2.5" lift. No problems.
Bought it used with 84,000 miles on it. Bought USED, no problems other than
routine maintenace.
1983 CJ8 - 198,000 miles, needs engine rebuilt. Not too bad for a USED
Jeep.
1986 XJ - Had to replace the engine at 200,000. GM 2.8, still not too bad
for USED.
1992 XJ - 185,000 miles. Replaced the engine, just wanted more power. Put
in a slight modified 1997 4.0 HO engine (both were bought USED) Daily
driver and weekend warrior. Still going strong.
1986 XJ - Another 2.8 (glutton for punishment) Bought used and abused.
Previous owner counldn't get it running. He hated the Jeep. Got it home,
tune up, carb cleaned, runs good now!
All I own now are Jeeps. Everything was bought used (and sometimes
abused). Before I bought any of them, I carefully checked them out (engine,
tranny, suspension, etc). I maintain all my vehicles like any auto should
be. Sounds like the previous owner(s) may not have done anything. Of
course, the BUYER should check or have the vehicle checked out throughly
before laying down the cash.
My shop does pre-purchase inspections. We check everything we can think
of and whatever the customer want us to check. Maybe you should have taken
it to a trusted auto technician before you bought it. Of course, somethings
just plain wear out and can't be caught, but that goes with owning any
vehicle.
Sorry you got a lemon, but that is the way things go sometimes!!
jduchock
"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>
>
>
#144
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Re: I own a lemon
Wahhhh. I own 4 XJs, 1 CJ and 1YJ
1990 Renix (now that really sux!) Fixed it up, cut and welded, 32" tires,
goes where I want it. Bought USED!
1994 YJ 4.0 - Fender cut, welded front and rear, 2.5" lift. No problems.
Bought it used with 84,000 miles on it. Bought USED, no problems other than
routine maintenace.
1983 CJ8 - 198,000 miles, needs engine rebuilt. Not too bad for a USED
Jeep.
1986 XJ - Had to replace the engine at 200,000. GM 2.8, still not too bad
for USED.
1992 XJ - 185,000 miles. Replaced the engine, just wanted more power. Put
in a slight modified 1997 4.0 HO engine (both were bought USED) Daily
driver and weekend warrior. Still going strong.
1986 XJ - Another 2.8 (glutton for punishment) Bought used and abused.
Previous owner counldn't get it running. He hated the Jeep. Got it home,
tune up, carb cleaned, runs good now!
All I own now are Jeeps. Everything was bought used (and sometimes
abused). Before I bought any of them, I carefully checked them out (engine,
tranny, suspension, etc). I maintain all my vehicles like any auto should
be. Sounds like the previous owner(s) may not have done anything. Of
course, the BUYER should check or have the vehicle checked out throughly
before laying down the cash.
My shop does pre-purchase inspections. We check everything we can think
of and whatever the customer want us to check. Maybe you should have taken
it to a trusted auto technician before you bought it. Of course, somethings
just plain wear out and can't be caught, but that goes with owning any
vehicle.
Sorry you got a lemon, but that is the way things go sometimes!!
jduchock
"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>
>
>
1990 Renix (now that really sux!) Fixed it up, cut and welded, 32" tires,
goes where I want it. Bought USED!
1994 YJ 4.0 - Fender cut, welded front and rear, 2.5" lift. No problems.
Bought it used with 84,000 miles on it. Bought USED, no problems other than
routine maintenace.
1983 CJ8 - 198,000 miles, needs engine rebuilt. Not too bad for a USED
Jeep.
1986 XJ - Had to replace the engine at 200,000. GM 2.8, still not too bad
for USED.
1992 XJ - 185,000 miles. Replaced the engine, just wanted more power. Put
in a slight modified 1997 4.0 HO engine (both were bought USED) Daily
driver and weekend warrior. Still going strong.
1986 XJ - Another 2.8 (glutton for punishment) Bought used and abused.
Previous owner counldn't get it running. He hated the Jeep. Got it home,
tune up, carb cleaned, runs good now!
All I own now are Jeeps. Everything was bought used (and sometimes
abused). Before I bought any of them, I carefully checked them out (engine,
tranny, suspension, etc). I maintain all my vehicles like any auto should
be. Sounds like the previous owner(s) may not have done anything. Of
course, the BUYER should check or have the vehicle checked out throughly
before laying down the cash.
My shop does pre-purchase inspections. We check everything we can think
of and whatever the customer want us to check. Maybe you should have taken
it to a trusted auto technician before you bought it. Of course, somethings
just plain wear out and can't be caught, but that goes with owning any
vehicle.
Sorry you got a lemon, but that is the way things go sometimes!!
jduchock
"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>
>
>
#145
Guest
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Re: I own a lemon
Wahhhh. I own 4 XJs, 1 CJ and 1YJ
1990 Renix (now that really sux!) Fixed it up, cut and welded, 32" tires,
goes where I want it. Bought USED!
1994 YJ 4.0 - Fender cut, welded front and rear, 2.5" lift. No problems.
Bought it used with 84,000 miles on it. Bought USED, no problems other than
routine maintenace.
1983 CJ8 - 198,000 miles, needs engine rebuilt. Not too bad for a USED
Jeep.
1986 XJ - Had to replace the engine at 200,000. GM 2.8, still not too bad
for USED.
1992 XJ - 185,000 miles. Replaced the engine, just wanted more power. Put
in a slight modified 1997 4.0 HO engine (both were bought USED) Daily
driver and weekend warrior. Still going strong.
1986 XJ - Another 2.8 (glutton for punishment) Bought used and abused.
Previous owner counldn't get it running. He hated the Jeep. Got it home,
tune up, carb cleaned, runs good now!
All I own now are Jeeps. Everything was bought used (and sometimes
abused). Before I bought any of them, I carefully checked them out (engine,
tranny, suspension, etc). I maintain all my vehicles like any auto should
be. Sounds like the previous owner(s) may not have done anything. Of
course, the BUYER should check or have the vehicle checked out throughly
before laying down the cash.
My shop does pre-purchase inspections. We check everything we can think
of and whatever the customer want us to check. Maybe you should have taken
it to a trusted auto technician before you bought it. Of course, somethings
just plain wear out and can't be caught, but that goes with owning any
vehicle.
Sorry you got a lemon, but that is the way things go sometimes!!
jduchock
"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>
>
>
1990 Renix (now that really sux!) Fixed it up, cut and welded, 32" tires,
goes where I want it. Bought USED!
1994 YJ 4.0 - Fender cut, welded front and rear, 2.5" lift. No problems.
Bought it used with 84,000 miles on it. Bought USED, no problems other than
routine maintenace.
1983 CJ8 - 198,000 miles, needs engine rebuilt. Not too bad for a USED
Jeep.
1986 XJ - Had to replace the engine at 200,000. GM 2.8, still not too bad
for USED.
1992 XJ - 185,000 miles. Replaced the engine, just wanted more power. Put
in a slight modified 1997 4.0 HO engine (both were bought USED) Daily
driver and weekend warrior. Still going strong.
1986 XJ - Another 2.8 (glutton for punishment) Bought used and abused.
Previous owner counldn't get it running. He hated the Jeep. Got it home,
tune up, carb cleaned, runs good now!
All I own now are Jeeps. Everything was bought used (and sometimes
abused). Before I bought any of them, I carefully checked them out (engine,
tranny, suspension, etc). I maintain all my vehicles like any auto should
be. Sounds like the previous owner(s) may not have done anything. Of
course, the BUYER should check or have the vehicle checked out throughly
before laying down the cash.
My shop does pre-purchase inspections. We check everything we can think
of and whatever the customer want us to check. Maybe you should have taken
it to a trusted auto technician before you bought it. Of course, somethings
just plain wear out and can't be caught, but that goes with owning any
vehicle.
Sorry you got a lemon, but that is the way things go sometimes!!
jduchock
"lemonowner" <lemonowner@witsend.com> wrote in message
news:cbh44r$aje$17@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hello Jeep owners world-wide.
> Thought you might like to read my story of 14 months of painful ownership
of a Jeep.
> If you already have/had one then you might know what I'm talking about. If
you were thinking of
> buying one then please read this first:
>
> http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/breakfast/
>
>
>
#146
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Re: I own a lemon
lemonowner proclaimed:
> Oh dear, is it any wonder that while only half the world despise the US, the rest just laugh...
The other half just hasn't gotten to know us yet...
You must admit that only a few are puling *******, though...like you.
> Oh dear, is it any wonder that while only half the world despise the US, the rest just laugh...
The other half just hasn't gotten to know us yet...
You must admit that only a few are puling *******, though...like you.
#147
Guest
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Re: I own a lemon
lemonowner proclaimed:
> Oh dear, is it any wonder that while only half the world despise the US, the rest just laugh...
The other half just hasn't gotten to know us yet...
You must admit that only a few are puling *******, though...like you.
> Oh dear, is it any wonder that while only half the world despise the US, the rest just laugh...
The other half just hasn't gotten to know us yet...
You must admit that only a few are puling *******, though...like you.
#148
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Re: I own a lemon
lemonowner proclaimed:
> Oh dear, is it any wonder that while only half the world despise the US, the rest just laugh...
The other half just hasn't gotten to know us yet...
You must admit that only a few are puling *******, though...like you.
> Oh dear, is it any wonder that while only half the world despise the US, the rest just laugh...
The other half just hasn't gotten to know us yet...
You must admit that only a few are puling *******, though...like you.
#149
Guest
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Re: I own a lemon
lemonowner proclaimed:
> Oh dear, is it any wonder that while only half the world despise the US, the rest just laugh...
The other half just hasn't gotten to know us yet...
You must admit that only a few are puling *******, though...like you.
> Oh dear, is it any wonder that while only half the world despise the US, the rest just laugh...
The other half just hasn't gotten to know us yet...
You must admit that only a few are puling *******, though...like you.
#150
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Re: I own a lemon
lemonowner proclaimed:
> Because it is ugly, it's badly engineered and designed and I would be embarrassed to be seen in
> one. This thread was never intended as a bash America, just Jeep and DaimlerChrysler. I have no
> respect for blind nationalistic loyalty, from any country.
> I bought a lemon (my mistake), I have paid for it, the manufacturers are morally bankrupt and I
> am now having my revenge. Simple really.
>
I believe you meant to say that you really don't expect your whining
to have the tiniest effect other than to indicate just what a puling
****** you are.
> Because it is ugly, it's badly engineered and designed and I would be embarrassed to be seen in
> one. This thread was never intended as a bash America, just Jeep and DaimlerChrysler. I have no
> respect for blind nationalistic loyalty, from any country.
> I bought a lemon (my mistake), I have paid for it, the manufacturers are morally bankrupt and I
> am now having my revenge. Simple really.
>
I believe you meant to say that you really don't expect your whining
to have the tiniest effect other than to indicate just what a puling
****** you are.