Spdloader

"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
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> In article <4660300f$0$4694$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com says...
>>
>> >
>> > Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>> >
>> > You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>> >
>> > And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
>> > when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>> >
>>
>> Mike,
>> Just a little tidbit of info.
>> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
>> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
>> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
>> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already
>> pressurized
>> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
>> environment.
>
> Can you find a modern car today with the fuel tank in the passenger
> cabin?
>
> Can you find fuel lines running through the passenger cabing?
>
> Do you smoke? What happens if someone lights up a cigarette with a
> evaporator leaking hc's into the cabin?
>
> Have you seen evaporators, condensers, compressors, and the passenger
> cabin after a propane a/c system explosion? Its like turning your a/c
> system into an IED. Its real easy for the pressures to get out of hand.
> Not only do you endanger people inside the car but you also endanger
> anyone working on or around the car. Especially anyone trying to service
> the car. That compressor and condensor would go off like a grenade.
> Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
> is nothing short of stupid.
>

Were you replying to me?

Spdloader

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twaldron <twaldron@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote:

> I don't know why you're in such a tizzie over this. I use
> plutonium in my a/c and it works great. As a side benefit, I can
> easily find my Jeep in any parking lot at night. It's kind of a
> pretty greenish glow.

Added benefit, you can read in bed w/o a light.
Added drawback, your wife complains your glow keeps her awake.


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twaldron <twaldron@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote:

> I don't know why you're in such a tizzie over this. I use
> plutonium in my a/c and it works great. As a side benefit, I can
> easily find my Jeep in any parking lot at night. It's kind of a
> pretty greenish glow.

Added benefit, you can read in bed w/o a light.
Added drawback, your wife complains your glow keeps her awake.


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twaldron <twaldron@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote:

> I don't know why you're in such a tizzie over this. I use
> plutonium in my a/c and it works great. As a side benefit, I can
> easily find my Jeep in any parking lot at night. It's kind of a
> pretty greenish glow.

Added benefit, you can read in bed w/o a light.
Added drawback, your wife complains your glow keeps her awake.


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twaldron <twaldron@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote:

> I don't know why you're in such a tizzie over this. I use
> plutonium in my a/c and it works great. As a side benefit, I can
> easily find my Jeep in any parking lot at night. It's kind of a
> pretty greenish glow.

Added benefit, you can read in bed w/o a light.
Added drawback, your wife complains your glow keeps her awake.


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"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I wasn't condoning the use of it Nate

understood. i wasnt criticizing you at all, just adding to the
conversation.


> I did learn to mix R12 with R22 like in some of the old Volvo cars.

trouble with 22 is the pressure required to get it above freezing. the
higher pressures required overload compressors designed for 12. in what
concentrations were you mixing it? i know its common in particular blends,
i just dont like it.


> By the way, when you coming back home?

to NC? quite possibly next month. i purchased a second home on wheels (
http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topi...TOPIC_ID=12658 raptor 3612) and
start travelling around the middle or end of june. im not yet sure where im
going, i just want to get away and travel some. whats going on?

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"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I wasn't condoning the use of it Nate

understood. i wasnt criticizing you at all, just adding to the
conversation.


> I did learn to mix R12 with R22 like in some of the old Volvo cars.

trouble with 22 is the pressure required to get it above freezing. the
higher pressures required overload compressors designed for 12. in what
concentrations were you mixing it? i know its common in particular blends,
i just dont like it.


> By the way, when you coming back home?

to NC? quite possibly next month. i purchased a second home on wheels (
http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topi...TOPIC_ID=12658 raptor 3612) and
start travelling around the middle or end of june. im not yet sure where im
going, i just want to get away and travel some. whats going on?

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I wasn't condoning the use of it Nate

understood. i wasnt criticizing you at all, just adding to the
conversation.


> I did learn to mix R12 with R22 like in some of the old Volvo cars.

trouble with 22 is the pressure required to get it above freezing. the
higher pressures required overload compressors designed for 12. in what
concentrations were you mixing it? i know its common in particular blends,
i just dont like it.


> By the way, when you coming back home?

to NC? quite possibly next month. i purchased a second home on wheels (
http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topi...TOPIC_ID=12658 raptor 3612) and
start travelling around the middle or end of june. im not yet sure where im
going, i just want to get away and travel some. whats going on?

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I wasn't condoning the use of it Nate

understood. i wasnt criticizing you at all, just adding to the
conversation.


> I did learn to mix R12 with R22 like in some of the old Volvo cars.

trouble with 22 is the pressure required to get it above freezing. the
higher pressures required overload compressors designed for 12. in what
concentrations were you mixing it? i know its common in particular blends,
i just dont like it.


> By the way, when you coming back home?

to NC? quite possibly next month. i purchased a second home on wheels (
http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topi...TOPIC_ID=12658 raptor 3612) and
start travelling around the middle or end of june. im not yet sure where im
going, i just want to get away and travel some. whats going on?

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
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>> thats just not true sir. while using propane in either system (for this
>> application) is indeed nothing short of stupid, there are many compatible
>> refrigerants that will work as well (and in most cases, _better_) in
>> either
>> application.
>
> Really? Who aside from maybe one shop in a given location will service
> it? Totally defeats the purpose of using the cheaper refrigerant when
> the one service shop that can service it will no doubt rape you.

not really the point in my response. i was simply making the point that
there _are_ alternatives that arent "stupid" at all and in fact will offer
better cooling than either while coming in much cheaper than 12. r414b is a
beautiful refrigerant that i purchase for well below $200 for 30#. r416a
(while not intended for use in automotive applications) is another one that
works great. the only reason 134a is so common is because it became the
standard before others existed and it too will be phased out.

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