Re: Hybrids?
 

> Ford is sending people all around the country to hold classes to 'teach'
> hybrid owners to get good gasoline mileages.

Ford is also pushing an Ethanol vehicle, but since Ethanol is a deficit fuel
it's just PR --------. Screw the facts, lets "feel good about it". You have
to love those commercials with all those fresh-faced kids acting as though
they just saved the world.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NG1VDF6EM1.DTL

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...udy_ethan.html
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Re: Hybrids?
 

> Ford is sending people all around the country to hold classes to 'teach'
> hybrid owners to get good gasoline mileages.

Ford is also pushing an Ethanol vehicle, but since Ethanol is a deficit fuel
it's just PR --------. Screw the facts, lets "feel good about it". You have
to love those commercials with all those fresh-faced kids acting as though
they just saved the world.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NG1VDF6EM1.DTL

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...udy_ethan.html
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Re: Hybrids?
 

> Ford is sending people all around the country to hold classes to 'teach'
> hybrid owners to get good gasoline mileages.

Ford is also pushing an Ethanol vehicle, but since Ethanol is a deficit fuel
it's just PR --------. Screw the facts, lets "feel good about it". You have
to love those commercials with all those fresh-faced kids acting as though
they just saved the world.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NG1VDF6EM1.DTL

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...udy_ethan.html
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Re: Hybrids?
 

Ethanol is not really a Deficit fuel. We actually don't have enough
farmers, like we did 30 years ago, to produce enough of it. We can also
use different types of products to create ethanol.
I am not really supporting it that much, i believe there are other
alternatives that should be researched. The government is just looking
for a bandaid, a quick fix. PR, that is a good quote also. The big
three have posted huge losses lately. They need something fresh to
spark people to buy their hugely overpriced vehicles. Not only that,
for what you pay it isn't a very good investment when you loose 2000 to
4000 the minute you drive it off the lot. In some city's you can buy a
cheap rental property for the same price of some of those vehicles.

Re: Hybrids?
 

Ethanol is not really a Deficit fuel. We actually don't have enough
farmers, like we did 30 years ago, to produce enough of it. We can also
use different types of products to create ethanol.
I am not really supporting it that much, i believe there are other
alternatives that should be researched. The government is just looking
for a bandaid, a quick fix. PR, that is a good quote also. The big
three have posted huge losses lately. They need something fresh to
spark people to buy their hugely overpriced vehicles. Not only that,
for what you pay it isn't a very good investment when you loose 2000 to
4000 the minute you drive it off the lot. In some city's you can buy a
cheap rental property for the same price of some of those vehicles.

Re: Hybrids?
 

Ethanol is not really a Deficit fuel. We actually don't have enough
farmers, like we did 30 years ago, to produce enough of it. We can also
use different types of products to create ethanol.
I am not really supporting it that much, i believe there are other
alternatives that should be researched. The government is just looking
for a bandaid, a quick fix. PR, that is a good quote also. The big
three have posted huge losses lately. They need something fresh to
spark people to buy their hugely overpriced vehicles. Not only that,
for what you pay it isn't a very good investment when you loose 2000 to
4000 the minute you drive it off the lot. In some city's you can buy a
cheap rental property for the same price of some of those vehicles.

Re: Hybrids?
 

My Honda Civic HX, model year 1999, gets 45 mpg on the highway, 40 more or
less in the mountains where I live, and has a 1600 cc gasoline engine, no
hybrid. I didn't need special classes either on how to drive it, to get
this mileage. The Nevada state patrol clocked my youngest daughter in it
doing 125. I assume that mileage went down a bit at that speed. ;^)

Hybrids are like the Emperor's New Clothes. There were a number of
offerings like the Civic HX, but people wouldn't buy them. Make the engine
smaller, load it down with expensive battery packs, and increase the price
but not the fuel economy, and people will buy them. Go figure.

Earle

"Brian Foster" <brianfoster@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:V752g.16468$0Z4.9048@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> So I'm listening to this guy on the radio who calls in and is bragging on
> his Honda Civic Hybrid. Gets 40mpg or better and he claims it has "lots of
> power". So I'm not an engineer and I have not researched the technology
but
> here is my question.
>
> Why are automakers making hybrid autos out of small cars? Why are they
> trying to add mpgs to autos that already get better than average mpg?
>
> Wouldn't it be more productive to try and double the mpg on the GMC Yukon?
> If I can take an SUV or a PU truck from 12 mpg to 24 mpg wouldn't that be
a
> home run for conservation?
>
> The guy on the radio said the technology in his Honda was scaleable so it
> could be done with larger vehicles?
>
>

Re: Hybrids?
 

My Honda Civic HX, model year 1999, gets 45 mpg on the highway, 40 more or
less in the mountains where I live, and has a 1600 cc gasoline engine, no
hybrid. I didn't need special classes either on how to drive it, to get
this mileage. The Nevada state patrol clocked my youngest daughter in it
doing 125. I assume that mileage went down a bit at that speed. ;^)

Hybrids are like the Emperor's New Clothes. There were a number of
offerings like the Civic HX, but people wouldn't buy them. Make the engine
smaller, load it down with expensive battery packs, and increase the price
but not the fuel economy, and people will buy them. Go figure.

Earle

"Brian Foster" <brianfoster@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:V752g.16468$0Z4.9048@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> So I'm listening to this guy on the radio who calls in and is bragging on
> his Honda Civic Hybrid. Gets 40mpg or better and he claims it has "lots of
> power". So I'm not an engineer and I have not researched the technology
but
> here is my question.
>
> Why are automakers making hybrid autos out of small cars? Why are they
> trying to add mpgs to autos that already get better than average mpg?
>
> Wouldn't it be more productive to try and double the mpg on the GMC Yukon?
> If I can take an SUV or a PU truck from 12 mpg to 24 mpg wouldn't that be
a
> home run for conservation?
>
> The guy on the radio said the technology in his Honda was scaleable so it
> could be done with larger vehicles?
>
>

Re: Hybrids?
 

My Honda Civic HX, model year 1999, gets 45 mpg on the highway, 40 more or
less in the mountains where I live, and has a 1600 cc gasoline engine, no
hybrid. I didn't need special classes either on how to drive it, to get
this mileage. The Nevada state patrol clocked my youngest daughter in it
doing 125. I assume that mileage went down a bit at that speed. ;^)

Hybrids are like the Emperor's New Clothes. There were a number of
offerings like the Civic HX, but people wouldn't buy them. Make the engine
smaller, load it down with expensive battery packs, and increase the price
but not the fuel economy, and people will buy them. Go figure.

Earle

"Brian Foster" <brianfoster@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:V752g.16468$0Z4.9048@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> So I'm listening to this guy on the radio who calls in and is bragging on
> his Honda Civic Hybrid. Gets 40mpg or better and he claims it has "lots of
> power". So I'm not an engineer and I have not researched the technology
but
> here is my question.
>
> Why are automakers making hybrid autos out of small cars? Why are they
> trying to add mpgs to autos that already get better than average mpg?
>
> Wouldn't it be more productive to try and double the mpg on the GMC Yukon?
> If I can take an SUV or a PU truck from 12 mpg to 24 mpg wouldn't that be
a
> home run for conservation?
>
> The guy on the radio said the technology in his Honda was scaleable so it
> could be done with larger vehicles?
>
>

Re: Hybrids?
 

We were fresh faced kids once... our job was to protect the world from the
'evil empire'. It worked too... after 4 decades


"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:4ase3cFuffe7U1@individual.net...
>> Ford is sending people all around the country to hold classes to 'teach'
>> hybrid owners to get good gasoline mileages.
>
> Ford is also pushing an Ethanol vehicle, but since Ethanol is a deficit
> fuel it's just PR --------. Screw the facts, lets "feel good about it".
> You have to love those commercials with all those fresh-faced kids acting
> as though they just saved the world.
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NG1VDF6EM1.DTL
>
> http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...udy_ethan.html
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>