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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <3ff72a19@news.iconz.co.nz>, rnf2 wrote:
>
> That's the beauty of the global warming theory, no matter what happens
> it proves global warming theory. Colder, wetter, hotter, drier, doesn't
> matter it's all covered.
>
Well, exactly. The fundamental part of the global warming theory is that
global warming is causing weather change. Thus, the weather change would
logically be either or any of colder, wetter, hotter, drier, etc.
However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like
you
- seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
with
a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
Ted
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:LdGJb.213224$8y1.751183@attbi_s52...
> In article <3ff72a19@news.iconz.co.nz>, rnf2 wrote:
>
> That's the beauty of the global warming theory, no matter what happens
> it proves global warming theory. Colder, wetter, hotter, drier, doesn't
> matter it's all covered.
>
Well, exactly. The fundamental part of the global warming theory is that
global warming is causing weather change. Thus, the weather change would
logically be either or any of colder, wetter, hotter, drier, etc.
However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like
you
- seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
with
a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
Ted
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?
In article <newscache$t4tyqh$m391$1@news.ipinc.net>, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:LdGJb.213224$8y1.751183@attbi_s52...
>> In article <3ff72a19@news.iconz.co.nz>, rnf2 wrote:
>>
>> That's the beauty of the global warming theory, no matter what happens
>> it proves global warming theory. Colder, wetter, hotter, drier, doesn't
>> matter it's all covered.
> Well, exactly. The fundamental part of the global warming theory is that
> global warming is causing weather change. Thus, the weather change would
> logically be either or any of colder, wetter, hotter, drier, etc.
And thusly for politics it works wonderfully. Scare the people into
adopting a political agenda they otherwise wouldn't stand for by blaming
every big snow storm or other big weather event on it.
> However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
> is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like you
> - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
> globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
> with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
> change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
sort. Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion that
stifles real science as much as the catholic church did centuries ago.
Instead of torture and imprisonment the means are ridicule and wrecked
careers, but the point is the same. Don't question the belief system.
Weather by definition changes. By itself it is not an indicator of
anything as the global warming true believers are so apt to point
out every time there is a spell of brutal winter cold. (of course that is
forgoten with every summer heat wave when anyone who suffers is
delcared a victim of global warming and the evil corporations)
Global warming has become a nebulus thing that cannot be shown faulty
because it morphs over time to fit what is happening like the "Centuries"
as written by Nostradomus. (wrong when read before the event, correct when
read after the event) The whole earth could become frozen over and the
posts in sci.environment would be saying it was the result of CO2
emissions.
>
> "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:LdGJb.213224$8y1.751183@attbi_s52...
>> In article <3ff72a19@news.iconz.co.nz>, rnf2 wrote:
>>
>> That's the beauty of the global warming theory, no matter what happens
>> it proves global warming theory. Colder, wetter, hotter, drier, doesn't
>> matter it's all covered.
> Well, exactly. The fundamental part of the global warming theory is that
> global warming is causing weather change. Thus, the weather change would
> logically be either or any of colder, wetter, hotter, drier, etc.
And thusly for politics it works wonderfully. Scare the people into
adopting a political agenda they otherwise wouldn't stand for by blaming
every big snow storm or other big weather event on it.
> However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
> is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like you
> - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
> globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
> with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
> change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
sort. Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion that
stifles real science as much as the catholic church did centuries ago.
Instead of torture and imprisonment the means are ridicule and wrecked
careers, but the point is the same. Don't question the belief system.
Weather by definition changes. By itself it is not an indicator of
anything as the global warming true believers are so apt to point
out every time there is a spell of brutal winter cold. (of course that is
forgoten with every summer heat wave when anyone who suffers is
delcared a victim of global warming and the evil corporations)
Global warming has become a nebulus thing that cannot be shown faulty
because it morphs over time to fit what is happening like the "Centuries"
as written by Nostradomus. (wrong when read before the event, correct when
read after the event) The whole earth could become frozen over and the
posts in sci.environment would be saying it was the result of CO2
emissions.
#7224
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?
In article <newscache$t4tyqh$m391$1@news.ipinc.net>, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:LdGJb.213224$8y1.751183@attbi_s52...
>> In article <3ff72a19@news.iconz.co.nz>, rnf2 wrote:
>>
>> That's the beauty of the global warming theory, no matter what happens
>> it proves global warming theory. Colder, wetter, hotter, drier, doesn't
>> matter it's all covered.
> Well, exactly. The fundamental part of the global warming theory is that
> global warming is causing weather change. Thus, the weather change would
> logically be either or any of colder, wetter, hotter, drier, etc.
And thusly for politics it works wonderfully. Scare the people into
adopting a political agenda they otherwise wouldn't stand for by blaming
every big snow storm or other big weather event on it.
> However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
> is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like you
> - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
> globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
> with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
> change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
sort. Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion that
stifles real science as much as the catholic church did centuries ago.
Instead of torture and imprisonment the means are ridicule and wrecked
careers, but the point is the same. Don't question the belief system.
Weather by definition changes. By itself it is not an indicator of
anything as the global warming true believers are so apt to point
out every time there is a spell of brutal winter cold. (of course that is
forgoten with every summer heat wave when anyone who suffers is
delcared a victim of global warming and the evil corporations)
Global warming has become a nebulus thing that cannot be shown faulty
because it morphs over time to fit what is happening like the "Centuries"
as written by Nostradomus. (wrong when read before the event, correct when
read after the event) The whole earth could become frozen over and the
posts in sci.environment would be saying it was the result of CO2
emissions.
>
> "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:LdGJb.213224$8y1.751183@attbi_s52...
>> In article <3ff72a19@news.iconz.co.nz>, rnf2 wrote:
>>
>> That's the beauty of the global warming theory, no matter what happens
>> it proves global warming theory. Colder, wetter, hotter, drier, doesn't
>> matter it's all covered.
> Well, exactly. The fundamental part of the global warming theory is that
> global warming is causing weather change. Thus, the weather change would
> logically be either or any of colder, wetter, hotter, drier, etc.
And thusly for politics it works wonderfully. Scare the people into
adopting a political agenda they otherwise wouldn't stand for by blaming
every big snow storm or other big weather event on it.
> However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
> is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like you
> - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
> globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
> with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
> change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
sort. Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion that
stifles real science as much as the catholic church did centuries ago.
Instead of torture and imprisonment the means are ridicule and wrecked
careers, but the point is the same. Don't question the belief system.
Weather by definition changes. By itself it is not an indicator of
anything as the global warming true believers are so apt to point
out every time there is a spell of brutal winter cold. (of course that is
forgoten with every summer heat wave when anyone who suffers is
delcared a victim of global warming and the evil corporations)
Global warming has become a nebulus thing that cannot be shown faulty
because it morphs over time to fit what is happening like the "Centuries"
as written by Nostradomus. (wrong when read before the event, correct when
read after the event) The whole earth could become frozen over and the
posts in sci.environment would be saying it was the result of CO2
emissions.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?
In article <newscache$t4tyqh$m391$1@news.ipinc.net>, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:LdGJb.213224$8y1.751183@attbi_s52...
>> In article <3ff72a19@news.iconz.co.nz>, rnf2 wrote:
>>
>> That's the beauty of the global warming theory, no matter what happens
>> it proves global warming theory. Colder, wetter, hotter, drier, doesn't
>> matter it's all covered.
> Well, exactly. The fundamental part of the global warming theory is that
> global warming is causing weather change. Thus, the weather change would
> logically be either or any of colder, wetter, hotter, drier, etc.
And thusly for politics it works wonderfully. Scare the people into
adopting a political agenda they otherwise wouldn't stand for by blaming
every big snow storm or other big weather event on it.
> However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
> is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like you
> - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
> globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
> with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
> change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
sort. Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion that
stifles real science as much as the catholic church did centuries ago.
Instead of torture and imprisonment the means are ridicule and wrecked
careers, but the point is the same. Don't question the belief system.
Weather by definition changes. By itself it is not an indicator of
anything as the global warming true believers are so apt to point
out every time there is a spell of brutal winter cold. (of course that is
forgoten with every summer heat wave when anyone who suffers is
delcared a victim of global warming and the evil corporations)
Global warming has become a nebulus thing that cannot be shown faulty
because it morphs over time to fit what is happening like the "Centuries"
as written by Nostradomus. (wrong when read before the event, correct when
read after the event) The whole earth could become frozen over and the
posts in sci.environment would be saying it was the result of CO2
emissions.
>
> "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:LdGJb.213224$8y1.751183@attbi_s52...
>> In article <3ff72a19@news.iconz.co.nz>, rnf2 wrote:
>>
>> That's the beauty of the global warming theory, no matter what happens
>> it proves global warming theory. Colder, wetter, hotter, drier, doesn't
>> matter it's all covered.
> Well, exactly. The fundamental part of the global warming theory is that
> global warming is causing weather change. Thus, the weather change would
> logically be either or any of colder, wetter, hotter, drier, etc.
And thusly for politics it works wonderfully. Scare the people into
adopting a political agenda they otherwise wouldn't stand for by blaming
every big snow storm or other big weather event on it.
> However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
> is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like you
> - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
> globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
> with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
> change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
sort. Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion that
stifles real science as much as the catholic church did centuries ago.
Instead of torture and imprisonment the means are ridicule and wrecked
careers, but the point is the same. Don't question the belief system.
Weather by definition changes. By itself it is not an indicator of
anything as the global warming true believers are so apt to point
out every time there is a spell of brutal winter cold. (of course that is
forgoten with every summer heat wave when anyone who suffers is
delcared a victim of global warming and the evil corporations)
Global warming has become a nebulus thing that cannot be shown faulty
because it morphs over time to fit what is happening like the "Centuries"
as written by Nostradomus. (wrong when read before the event, correct when
read after the event) The whole earth could become frozen over and the
posts in sci.environment would be saying it was the result of CO2
emissions.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dh%Jb.747652$Fm2.680262@attbi_s04...
> > However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global
warming
> > is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public -
like you
> > - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that
the
> > globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature
change
> > with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove)
that weather
> > change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
>
> Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
> sort.
Ah, yes you did.
> Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion
If you believed the globe was warming up you would never say "true or not"
much less equate it as a religion.
"global warming" as the general public puts it - and as your putting it
here - is not only the _observation_ that global temps are on the rise, but
the _assumption_ that it's man-made.
"global warming" as the scientists put it is pretty much restricted to the
observational part.
You may not believe the assumption that the globe is warming up because of
man-made
things. That I can understand, and so far it is still a somewhat defensible
position. But your foolish if you don't believe that the globe is getting
warmer.
It is. Whether we are causing it or can do anything about it is a different
kettle of fish.
Ted
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dh%Jb.747652$Fm2.680262@attbi_s04...
> > However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global
warming
> > is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public -
like you
> > - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that
the
> > globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature
change
> > with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove)
that weather
> > change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
>
> Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
> sort.
Ah, yes you did.
> Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion
If you believed the globe was warming up you would never say "true or not"
much less equate it as a religion.
"global warming" as the general public puts it - and as your putting it
here - is not only the _observation_ that global temps are on the rise, but
the _assumption_ that it's man-made.
"global warming" as the scientists put it is pretty much restricted to the
observational part.
You may not believe the assumption that the globe is warming up because of
man-made
things. That I can understand, and so far it is still a somewhat defensible
position. But your foolish if you don't believe that the globe is getting
warmer.
It is. Whether we are causing it or can do anything about it is a different
kettle of fish.
Ted
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dh%Jb.747652$Fm2.680262@attbi_s04...
> > However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global
warming
> > is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public -
like you
> > - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that
the
> > globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature
change
> > with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove)
that weather
> > change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
>
> Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
> sort.
Ah, yes you did.
> Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion
If you believed the globe was warming up you would never say "true or not"
much less equate it as a religion.
"global warming" as the general public puts it - and as your putting it
here - is not only the _observation_ that global temps are on the rise, but
the _assumption_ that it's man-made.
"global warming" as the scientists put it is pretty much restricted to the
observational part.
You may not believe the assumption that the globe is warming up because of
man-made
things. That I can understand, and so far it is still a somewhat defensible
position. But your foolish if you don't believe that the globe is getting
warmer.
It is. Whether we are causing it or can do anything about it is a different
kettle of fish.
Ted
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?
In article <newscache$bdh0rh$d1a1$1@news.ipinc.net>, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>> > However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
>> > is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like you
>> > - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
>> > globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
>> > with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
>> > change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
>>
>> Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
>> sort.
> Ah, yes you did.
Then you should have no trouble quoting it and pointing to relevant
post in your favorite usenet archive, so do so.
>> Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion
> If you believed the globe was warming up you would never say "true or not"
> much less equate it as a religion.
I am not a true believer. Others however are, and will defend the *entire*
religon from temps are going up to it's due to evil american corporations
to their last breath.
> "global warming" as the general public puts it - and as your putting it
> here - is not only the _observation_ that global temps are on the rise, but
> the _assumption_ that it's man-made.
Depends on which scientific papers one reads. The religon has not surpressed
all other thought on the matter.
> "global warming" as the scientists put it is pretty much restricted to the
> observational part.
"global warming" refers to much more than that and you know it. And don't
forget the mixing of science and religon that we see here on usenet. There
is a new religon and it masks itself within science.
> You may not believe the assumption that the globe is warming up because of
> man-made things. That I can understand, and so far it is still a somewhat
> defensible position. But your foolish if you don't believe that the globe is
> getting warmer.
Warmer than what? We have maybe 50 years of good *global* data. Maybe a
century of much of the world. The rest gets pretty spotty and the remaining
is from proxy data that has to be interpeted correctly. Throw into that
the proper use of statistics etc, and this warming trend does become
questionable. However the religon demands that any analysis of the data
that doesn't agree with the tenet that the globe is getting warmer is
blasphemy.
> It is. Whether we are causing it or can do anything about it is a different
> kettle of fish.
The leaders of the religon have already decided upon the path to salvation.
>
> "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>> > However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
>> > is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like you
>> > - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
>> > globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
>> > with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
>> > change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
>>
>> Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
>> sort.
> Ah, yes you did.
Then you should have no trouble quoting it and pointing to relevant
post in your favorite usenet archive, so do so.
>> Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion
> If you believed the globe was warming up you would never say "true or not"
> much less equate it as a religion.
I am not a true believer. Others however are, and will defend the *entire*
religon from temps are going up to it's due to evil american corporations
to their last breath.
> "global warming" as the general public puts it - and as your putting it
> here - is not only the _observation_ that global temps are on the rise, but
> the _assumption_ that it's man-made.
Depends on which scientific papers one reads. The religon has not surpressed
all other thought on the matter.
> "global warming" as the scientists put it is pretty much restricted to the
> observational part.
"global warming" refers to much more than that and you know it. And don't
forget the mixing of science and religon that we see here on usenet. There
is a new religon and it masks itself within science.
> You may not believe the assumption that the globe is warming up because of
> man-made things. That I can understand, and so far it is still a somewhat
> defensible position. But your foolish if you don't believe that the globe is
> getting warmer.
Warmer than what? We have maybe 50 years of good *global* data. Maybe a
century of much of the world. The rest gets pretty spotty and the remaining
is from proxy data that has to be interpeted correctly. Throw into that
the proper use of statistics etc, and this warming trend does become
questionable. However the religon demands that any analysis of the data
that doesn't agree with the tenet that the globe is getting warmer is
blasphemy.
> It is. Whether we are causing it or can do anything about it is a different
> kettle of fish.
The leaders of the religon have already decided upon the path to salvation.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?
In article <newscache$bdh0rh$d1a1$1@news.ipinc.net>, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>> > However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
>> > is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like you
>> > - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
>> > globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
>> > with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
>> > change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
>>
>> Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
>> sort.
> Ah, yes you did.
Then you should have no trouble quoting it and pointing to relevant
post in your favorite usenet archive, so do so.
>> Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion
> If you believed the globe was warming up you would never say "true or not"
> much less equate it as a religion.
I am not a true believer. Others however are, and will defend the *entire*
religon from temps are going up to it's due to evil american corporations
to their last breath.
> "global warming" as the general public puts it - and as your putting it
> here - is not only the _observation_ that global temps are on the rise, but
> the _assumption_ that it's man-made.
Depends on which scientific papers one reads. The religon has not surpressed
all other thought on the matter.
> "global warming" as the scientists put it is pretty much restricted to the
> observational part.
"global warming" refers to much more than that and you know it. And don't
forget the mixing of science and religon that we see here on usenet. There
is a new religon and it masks itself within science.
> You may not believe the assumption that the globe is warming up because of
> man-made things. That I can understand, and so far it is still a somewhat
> defensible position. But your foolish if you don't believe that the globe is
> getting warmer.
Warmer than what? We have maybe 50 years of good *global* data. Maybe a
century of much of the world. The rest gets pretty spotty and the remaining
is from proxy data that has to be interpeted correctly. Throw into that
the proper use of statistics etc, and this warming trend does become
questionable. However the religon demands that any analysis of the data
that doesn't agree with the tenet that the globe is getting warmer is
blasphemy.
> It is. Whether we are causing it or can do anything about it is a different
> kettle of fish.
The leaders of the religon have already decided upon the path to salvation.
>
> "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>> > However, weather change in and of itself, does not prove that global warming
>> > is happening and is causing weather change. While the general public - like you
>> > - seems to have made this cyclical connection the scientists prove that the
>> > globe is warming by the act of actually measuring it's temperature change
>> > with a thermometor over time. They also prove (or attempt to prove) that weather
>> > change is happening by actually measuring that over time too.
>>
>> Don't put words into my mouth, I gave no indication of anything of the
>> sort.
> Ah, yes you did.
Then you should have no trouble quoting it and pointing to relevant
post in your favorite usenet archive, so do so.
>> Global warming, true or not, is part of the new religion
> If you believed the globe was warming up you would never say "true or not"
> much less equate it as a religion.
I am not a true believer. Others however are, and will defend the *entire*
religon from temps are going up to it's due to evil american corporations
to their last breath.
> "global warming" as the general public puts it - and as your putting it
> here - is not only the _observation_ that global temps are on the rise, but
> the _assumption_ that it's man-made.
Depends on which scientific papers one reads. The religon has not surpressed
all other thought on the matter.
> "global warming" as the scientists put it is pretty much restricted to the
> observational part.
"global warming" refers to much more than that and you know it. And don't
forget the mixing of science and religon that we see here on usenet. There
is a new religon and it masks itself within science.
> You may not believe the assumption that the globe is warming up because of
> man-made things. That I can understand, and so far it is still a somewhat
> defensible position. But your foolish if you don't believe that the globe is
> getting warmer.
Warmer than what? We have maybe 50 years of good *global* data. Maybe a
century of much of the world. The rest gets pretty spotty and the remaining
is from proxy data that has to be interpeted correctly. Throw into that
the proper use of statistics etc, and this warming trend does become
questionable. However the religon demands that any analysis of the data
that doesn't agree with the tenet that the globe is getting warmer is
blasphemy.
> It is. Whether we are causing it or can do anything about it is a different
> kettle of fish.
The leaders of the religon have already decided upon the path to salvation.