Lloyd Parker wrote:

> >Fact: we don't *know* why there were warming periods in the past.
>
> Irrelevant. We know why there's one now.

No we don't!

Some scientist believe the reason is an increase in the atmospheric concentration
of CO2. They may be right or not. Your agreement with their belief does not prove
it. Citing papers, even peer reviewed papers, still doesn't prove anything. The
global climate is a very complicated system with lots of inputs. Looking at one
input and one change and declaring they are cause and effect is BS. As a
scientist you should know this. The scientist doing climate research don't even
have really good data on the solar constant for more than the last few years.
They are estimating historic temperatures from sketchy data or trying to infere
it from effects that they believe are related to the temperature. The errors
associated with these measurement are much greater than the changes they are
claiming. It is junk science. They decided on the conclusion and then groomed the
data to fit it. Anyone that doesn't agree with the establishment is treated as a
loon.

Ed

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <bpgviq081a@enews4.newsguy.com>,
> "Jerry McGeorge" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote:
> >Nice selection of studies. Unfortunately, rather than accept the well
> >documented and monumental forces of nature to explain normal fluctuations
in
> >climate and temperature, socialist green gas (bag) theorists will refute
> >anything other than "destructive Co2 emissions" from human activities as
an
> >explanation for their totally unproven theories of global warming.
> >
> >
> No, we look to science -- peer-reviewed scientific journals, groups like
EPA,
> NASA, NOAA, etc. We don't just call people who disagree "socialists" like
> some little child.

You insult anyone who disagrees with you.
Those sites you quote said we were heading into another ice age in 1975, and
urged immediate action to warm up the climate before millions of people
starved to death.
Why are they more believable now?

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bpinaa$rom$23@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bpgviq081a@enews4.newsguy.com>,
> "Jerry McGeorge" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote:
> >Nice selection of studies. Unfortunately, rather than accept the well
> >documented and monumental forces of nature to explain normal fluctuations
in
> >climate and temperature, socialist green gas (bag) theorists will refute
> >anything other than "destructive Co2 emissions" from human activities as
an
> >explanation for their totally unproven theories of global warming.
> >
> >
> No, we look to science -- peer-reviewed scientific journals, groups like
EPA,
> NASA, NOAA, etc. We don't just call people who disagree "socialists" like
> some little child.

You insult anyone who disagrees with you.
Those sites you quote said we were heading into another ice age in 1975, and
urged immediate action to warm up the climate before millions of people
starved to death.
Why are they more believable now?

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bpinaa$rom$23@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bpgviq081a@enews4.newsguy.com>,
> "Jerry McGeorge" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote:
> >Nice selection of studies. Unfortunately, rather than accept the well
> >documented and monumental forces of nature to explain normal fluctuations
in
> >climate and temperature, socialist green gas (bag) theorists will refute
> >anything other than "destructive Co2 emissions" from human activities as
an
> >explanation for their totally unproven theories of global warming.
> >
> >
> No, we look to science -- peer-reviewed scientific journals, groups like
EPA,
> NASA, NOAA, etc. We don't just call people who disagree "socialists" like
> some little child.

You insult anyone who disagrees with you.
Those sites you quote said we were heading into another ice age in 1975, and
urged immediate action to warm up the climate before millions of people
starved to death.
Why are they more believable now?

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bpild2$rom$5@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bpg9t30i20@enews2.newsguy.com>,
> "Jerry McGeorge" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> I wish you wouldn't get your "facts" from right-wing propaganda
sources.>
> >
> >As opposed to what, your lefty friends in academia, the socialist press,
> >looney-left websites, etc.?
> >
> >
> No, peer-reviewed scientific journals and groups like NASA, NOAA, EPA,
> National Aacdemy of Sciences, etc.

The same groups that claimed we were heading into a new ice age in 1975.

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bpild2$rom$5@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bpg9t30i20@enews2.newsguy.com>,
> "Jerry McGeorge" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> I wish you wouldn't get your "facts" from right-wing propaganda
sources.>
> >
> >As opposed to what, your lefty friends in academia, the socialist press,
> >looney-left websites, etc.?
> >
> >
> No, peer-reviewed scientific journals and groups like NASA, NOAA, EPA,
> National Aacdemy of Sciences, etc.

The same groups that claimed we were heading into a new ice age in 1975.

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bpild2$rom$5@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bpg9t30i20@enews2.newsguy.com>,
> "Jerry McGeorge" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> I wish you wouldn't get your "facts" from right-wing propaganda
sources.>
> >
> >As opposed to what, your lefty friends in academia, the socialist press,
> >looney-left websites, etc.?
> >
> >
> No, peer-reviewed scientific journals and groups like NASA, NOAA, EPA,
> National Aacdemy of Sciences, etc.

The same groups that claimed we were heading into a new ice age in 1975.

 

"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote in message
news:vrqjhih3n6k752@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> news:bpinaa$rom$23@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > In article <bpgviq081a@enews4.newsguy.com>,
> > "Jerry McGeorge" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote:
> > >Nice selection of studies. Unfortunately, rather than accept the well
> > >documented and monumental forces of nature to explain normal
fluctuations
> in
> > >climate and temperature, socialist green gas (bag) theorists will
refute
> > >anything other than "destructive Co2 emissions" from human activities
as
> an
> > >explanation for their totally unproven theories of global warming.
> > >
> > >
> > No, we look to science -- peer-reviewed scientific journals, groups like
> EPA,
> > NASA, NOAA, etc. We don't just call people who disagree "socialists"
like
> > some little child.
>
> You insult anyone who disagrees with you.
> Those sites you quote said we were heading into another ice age in 1975,
and
> urged immediate action to warm up the climate before millions of people
> starved to death.
> Why are they more believable now?
>
>
>

http://www.globalclimate.org/Newsweek.htm

 

"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote in message
news:vrqjhih3n6k752@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> news:bpinaa$rom$23@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > In article <bpgviq081a@enews4.newsguy.com>,
> > "Jerry McGeorge" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote:
> > >Nice selection of studies. Unfortunately, rather than accept the well
> > >documented and monumental forces of nature to explain normal
fluctuations
> in
> > >climate and temperature, socialist green gas (bag) theorists will
refute
> > >anything other than "destructive Co2 emissions" from human activities
as
> an
> > >explanation for their totally unproven theories of global warming.
> > >
> > >
> > No, we look to science -- peer-reviewed scientific journals, groups like
> EPA,
> > NASA, NOAA, etc. We don't just call people who disagree "socialists"
like
> > some little child.
>
> You insult anyone who disagrees with you.
> Those sites you quote said we were heading into another ice age in 1975,
and
> urged immediate action to warm up the climate before millions of people
> starved to death.
> Why are they more believable now?
>
>
>

http://www.globalclimate.org/Newsweek.htm

 

"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote in message
news:vrqjhih3n6k752@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> news:bpinaa$rom$23@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > In article <bpgviq081a@enews4.newsguy.com>,
> > "Jerry McGeorge" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote:
> > >Nice selection of studies. Unfortunately, rather than accept the well
> > >documented and monumental forces of nature to explain normal
fluctuations
> in
> > >climate and temperature, socialist green gas (bag) theorists will
refute
> > >anything other than "destructive Co2 emissions" from human activities
as
> an
> > >explanation for their totally unproven theories of global warming.
> > >
> > >
> > No, we look to science -- peer-reviewed scientific journals, groups like
> EPA,
> > NASA, NOAA, etc. We don't just call people who disagree "socialists"
like
> > some little child.
>
> You insult anyone who disagrees with you.
> Those sites you quote said we were heading into another ice age in 1975,
and
> urged immediate action to warm up the climate before millions of people
> starved to death.
> Why are they more believable now?
>
>
>

http://www.globalclimate.org/Newsweek.htm