Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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In article <Khxqb.91903$mZ5.602598@attbi_s54>,
tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>In article <boe5a7$i0q$4@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> CO2 put into the air by nature has been in balance for millions of years.
>> It's man changing this equilibrium that's the problem.
>
>CO2 content of the atmosphere been changing for millions years.
It's been around 280 ppm for half a million years; now it's up to 350 ppm in
the last 120 years.
>Did you not
>look at the data you keep harping on?
>
Yes. Have you?
tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>In article <boe5a7$i0q$4@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> CO2 put into the air by nature has been in balance for millions of years.
>> It's man changing this equilibrium that's the problem.
>
>CO2 content of the atmosphere been changing for millions years.
It's been around 280 ppm for half a million years; now it's up to 350 ppm in
the last 120 years.
>Did you not
>look at the data you keep harping on?
>
Yes. Have you?
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In article <qlxqb.95265$ao4.280496@attbi_s51>,
tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>In article <boe695$i0q$21@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>>>"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience.
><snip>
>>>You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
>
>> I've learned from science; you never have.
>
>I've learned from science, and it's not science that you preach parker.
>You spout political views and hide behind a PhD in chemistry as if
>that makes your political views correct. You dismiss without discussion
>any scientific data or analysis that challenges your beliefs. That is *NOT*
>science.
>
>
>
Science tells up CO2 absorbs heat, science tells us the earth is warming,
science tells us CO2 has increased along with temperature, science tells us
human activities produce CO2.
tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>In article <boe695$i0q$21@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>>>"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience.
><snip>
>>>You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
>
>> I've learned from science; you never have.
>
>I've learned from science, and it's not science that you preach parker.
>You spout political views and hide behind a PhD in chemistry as if
>that makes your political views correct. You dismiss without discussion
>any scientific data or analysis that challenges your beliefs. That is *NOT*
>science.
>
>
>
Science tells up CO2 absorbs heat, science tells us the earth is warming,
science tells us CO2 has increased along with temperature, science tells us
human activities produce CO2.
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In article <qlxqb.95265$ao4.280496@attbi_s51>,
tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>In article <boe695$i0q$21@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>>>"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience.
><snip>
>>>You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
>
>> I've learned from science; you never have.
>
>I've learned from science, and it's not science that you preach parker.
>You spout political views and hide behind a PhD in chemistry as if
>that makes your political views correct. You dismiss without discussion
>any scientific data or analysis that challenges your beliefs. That is *NOT*
>science.
>
>
>
Science tells up CO2 absorbs heat, science tells us the earth is warming,
science tells us CO2 has increased along with temperature, science tells us
human activities produce CO2.
tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>In article <boe695$i0q$21@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>>>"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience.
><snip>
>>>You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
>
>> I've learned from science; you never have.
>
>I've learned from science, and it's not science that you preach parker.
>You spout political views and hide behind a PhD in chemistry as if
>that makes your political views correct. You dismiss without discussion
>any scientific data or analysis that challenges your beliefs. That is *NOT*
>science.
>
>
>
Science tells up CO2 absorbs heat, science tells us the earth is warming,
science tells us CO2 has increased along with temperature, science tells us
human activities produce CO2.
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In article <qlxqb.95265$ao4.280496@attbi_s51>,
tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>In article <boe695$i0q$21@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>>>"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience.
><snip>
>>>You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
>
>> I've learned from science; you never have.
>
>I've learned from science, and it's not science that you preach parker.
>You spout political views and hide behind a PhD in chemistry as if
>that makes your political views correct. You dismiss without discussion
>any scientific data or analysis that challenges your beliefs. That is *NOT*
>science.
>
>
>
Science tells up CO2 absorbs heat, science tells us the earth is warming,
science tells us CO2 has increased along with temperature, science tells us
human activities produce CO2.
tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>In article <boe695$i0q$21@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>>>"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience.
><snip>
>>>You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
>
>> I've learned from science; you never have.
>
>I've learned from science, and it's not science that you preach parker.
>You spout political views and hide behind a PhD in chemistry as if
>that makes your political views correct. You dismiss without discussion
>any scientific data or analysis that challenges your beliefs. That is *NOT*
>science.
>
>
>
Science tells up CO2 absorbs heat, science tells us the earth is warming,
science tells us CO2 has increased along with temperature, science tells us
human activities produce CO2.
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"Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vqm2nephikjf28@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> news:boe65n$i0q$19@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > In article <boci0401rri@enews2.newsguy.com>,
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> > >> Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the
> results
> > >of Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.>
> > >
> > >Actually it looks like the ORIGINAL results were accurate & valid!
> > >
> > >The Democrats proved their disegenuousness when they only wanted to
> recout
> > >three heavily Democratic counties.
> >
> > FL law allowed for a candidate to ask for a recount in specific
counties.
>
> No one minded Gore asking for a recount, he had that right. He did not
have
> the right to insist on recount after recount until he could find one that
> favored him.
> Had he bowed out gracefully after the first recount he would have had an
> excellent chance of beating Bush in 2004, way he went on though he
destroyed
> any chance he ever had at winning the Presidency. Sort of like the way you
> would do better in debates if you quit after the first reply instead of
> digging yourself in deeper with every lie you post.
>
What Gore did in Florida was really insane. I think it stems from their
incredulity at losing congress in '94 (along with their anger at Republicans
impeaching Clinton). They have a sense of entitlement and moral superiority
that aloows them to use whatever extreme measures are required to return
themselves to their proper place in the seat of power.
I think everyone to the right of the Democratic base gave a sigh of relief
when Gore finally gave it up and gave another sight of relief after 9/11.
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"Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vqm2nephikjf28@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> news:boe65n$i0q$19@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > In article <boci0401rri@enews2.newsguy.com>,
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> > >> Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the
> results
> > >of Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.>
> > >
> > >Actually it looks like the ORIGINAL results were accurate & valid!
> > >
> > >The Democrats proved their disegenuousness when they only wanted to
> recout
> > >three heavily Democratic counties.
> >
> > FL law allowed for a candidate to ask for a recount in specific
counties.
>
> No one minded Gore asking for a recount, he had that right. He did not
have
> the right to insist on recount after recount until he could find one that
> favored him.
> Had he bowed out gracefully after the first recount he would have had an
> excellent chance of beating Bush in 2004, way he went on though he
destroyed
> any chance he ever had at winning the Presidency. Sort of like the way you
> would do better in debates if you quit after the first reply instead of
> digging yourself in deeper with every lie you post.
>
What Gore did in Florida was really insane. I think it stems from their
incredulity at losing congress in '94 (along with their anger at Republicans
impeaching Clinton). They have a sense of entitlement and moral superiority
that aloows them to use whatever extreme measures are required to return
themselves to their proper place in the seat of power.
I think everyone to the right of the Democratic base gave a sigh of relief
when Gore finally gave it up and gave another sight of relief after 9/11.
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"Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vqm2nephikjf28@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> news:boe65n$i0q$19@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > In article <boci0401rri@enews2.newsguy.com>,
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> > >> Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the
> results
> > >of Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.>
> > >
> > >Actually it looks like the ORIGINAL results were accurate & valid!
> > >
> > >The Democrats proved their disegenuousness when they only wanted to
> recout
> > >three heavily Democratic counties.
> >
> > FL law allowed for a candidate to ask for a recount in specific
counties.
>
> No one minded Gore asking for a recount, he had that right. He did not
have
> the right to insist on recount after recount until he could find one that
> favored him.
> Had he bowed out gracefully after the first recount he would have had an
> excellent chance of beating Bush in 2004, way he went on though he
destroyed
> any chance he ever had at winning the Presidency. Sort of like the way you
> would do better in debates if you quit after the first reply instead of
> digging yourself in deeper with every lie you post.
>
What Gore did in Florida was really insane. I think it stems from their
incredulity at losing congress in '94 (along with their anger at Republicans
impeaching Clinton). They have a sense of entitlement and moral superiority
that aloows them to use whatever extreme measures are required to return
themselves to their proper place in the seat of power.
I think everyone to the right of the Democratic base gave a sigh of relief
when Gore finally gave it up and gave another sight of relief after 9/11.
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In article <4fadnTaEMbc0PjeiRTvUrg@texas.net>, Steve <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>ead who might be
>>>dead at the moment if they didn't have a firearm handy.
>>>An Atlanta police officer's wife who killed her would be rapist.
>>>A man who shot a would be carjacker on the northside of Atlanta somewhere
in
>>>a Wal-Fart parking lot.
>>>A wal-Fart employee in Florida somewhere IIRC who was being stabbed by some
>>>nutcase who was foiled by an old lady w/ a pistol.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And for each of those, there are family members shot in anger or
accidentally,
>> suicides with a handy gun, children shooting children with a gun found in
the
>> house, shooting of a neighbor the homeowner thought was a burglar, etc.
>
>No one denies that those things can happen, but not "for each" of the
>previous examples. The documented TRUTH is that in states where
>concealed handguns are legal, the number of those events does not even
>come CLOSE to the number of times when a legally-carried gun stops a crime.
>
>I suggest remedial reading...
>
Sorry, there is no evidence of your claim. The only scientific study, by
Kellerman, shows just the opposite.
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>ead who might be
>>>dead at the moment if they didn't have a firearm handy.
>>>An Atlanta police officer's wife who killed her would be rapist.
>>>A man who shot a would be carjacker on the northside of Atlanta somewhere
in
>>>a Wal-Fart parking lot.
>>>A wal-Fart employee in Florida somewhere IIRC who was being stabbed by some
>>>nutcase who was foiled by an old lady w/ a pistol.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And for each of those, there are family members shot in anger or
accidentally,
>> suicides with a handy gun, children shooting children with a gun found in
the
>> house, shooting of a neighbor the homeowner thought was a burglar, etc.
>
>No one denies that those things can happen, but not "for each" of the
>previous examples. The documented TRUTH is that in states where
>concealed handguns are legal, the number of those events does not even
>come CLOSE to the number of times when a legally-carried gun stops a crime.
>
>I suggest remedial reading...
>
Sorry, there is no evidence of your claim. The only scientific study, by
Kellerman, shows just the opposite.
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In article <4fadnTaEMbc0PjeiRTvUrg@texas.net>, Steve <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>ead who might be
>>>dead at the moment if they didn't have a firearm handy.
>>>An Atlanta police officer's wife who killed her would be rapist.
>>>A man who shot a would be carjacker on the northside of Atlanta somewhere
in
>>>a Wal-Fart parking lot.
>>>A wal-Fart employee in Florida somewhere IIRC who was being stabbed by some
>>>nutcase who was foiled by an old lady w/ a pistol.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And for each of those, there are family members shot in anger or
accidentally,
>> suicides with a handy gun, children shooting children with a gun found in
the
>> house, shooting of a neighbor the homeowner thought was a burglar, etc.
>
>No one denies that those things can happen, but not "for each" of the
>previous examples. The documented TRUTH is that in states where
>concealed handguns are legal, the number of those events does not even
>come CLOSE to the number of times when a legally-carried gun stops a crime.
>
>I suggest remedial reading...
>
Sorry, there is no evidence of your claim. The only scientific study, by
Kellerman, shows just the opposite.
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>ead who might be
>>>dead at the moment if they didn't have a firearm handy.
>>>An Atlanta police officer's wife who killed her would be rapist.
>>>A man who shot a would be carjacker on the northside of Atlanta somewhere
in
>>>a Wal-Fart parking lot.
>>>A wal-Fart employee in Florida somewhere IIRC who was being stabbed by some
>>>nutcase who was foiled by an old lady w/ a pistol.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And for each of those, there are family members shot in anger or
accidentally,
>> suicides with a handy gun, children shooting children with a gun found in
the
>> house, shooting of a neighbor the homeowner thought was a burglar, etc.
>
>No one denies that those things can happen, but not "for each" of the
>previous examples. The documented TRUTH is that in states where
>concealed handguns are legal, the number of those events does not even
>come CLOSE to the number of times when a legally-carried gun stops a crime.
>
>I suggest remedial reading...
>
Sorry, there is no evidence of your claim. The only scientific study, by
Kellerman, shows just the opposite.
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In article <4fadnTaEMbc0PjeiRTvUrg@texas.net>, Steve <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>ead who might be
>>>dead at the moment if they didn't have a firearm handy.
>>>An Atlanta police officer's wife who killed her would be rapist.
>>>A man who shot a would be carjacker on the northside of Atlanta somewhere
in
>>>a Wal-Fart parking lot.
>>>A wal-Fart employee in Florida somewhere IIRC who was being stabbed by some
>>>nutcase who was foiled by an old lady w/ a pistol.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And for each of those, there are family members shot in anger or
accidentally,
>> suicides with a handy gun, children shooting children with a gun found in
the
>> house, shooting of a neighbor the homeowner thought was a burglar, etc.
>
>No one denies that those things can happen, but not "for each" of the
>previous examples. The documented TRUTH is that in states where
>concealed handguns are legal, the number of those events does not even
>come CLOSE to the number of times when a legally-carried gun stops a crime.
>
>I suggest remedial reading...
>
Sorry, there is no evidence of your claim. The only scientific study, by
Kellerman, shows just the opposite.
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>ead who might be
>>>dead at the moment if they didn't have a firearm handy.
>>>An Atlanta police officer's wife who killed her would be rapist.
>>>A man who shot a would be carjacker on the northside of Atlanta somewhere
in
>>>a Wal-Fart parking lot.
>>>A wal-Fart employee in Florida somewhere IIRC who was being stabbed by some
>>>nutcase who was foiled by an old lady w/ a pistol.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And for each of those, there are family members shot in anger or
accidentally,
>> suicides with a handy gun, children shooting children with a gun found in
the
>> house, shooting of a neighbor the homeowner thought was a burglar, etc.
>
>No one denies that those things can happen, but not "for each" of the
>previous examples. The documented TRUTH is that in states where
>concealed handguns are legal, the number of those events does not even
>come CLOSE to the number of times when a legally-carried gun stops a crime.
>
>I suggest remedial reading...
>
Sorry, there is no evidence of your claim. The only scientific study, by
Kellerman, shows just the opposite.


