"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe616$i0q$17@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vqjdrv6m9dlk0a@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:vCiqb.11714$9M3.10456@newsread2.news.atl.ear thlink.net...
> >> "And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?"
> >> Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the
results
> >of
> >> Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.
> >
> >And what the Dems never acknowledge is the fact that Floridas votes were
> >recounted again after Bush was declared the winner, every vote was
counted,
> >no matter how poorly marked, and it gave Bush more votes than the final
> >official count had given him.
>
> Wrong. As the media reported, depending on how the votes were counted
> (strictly, loosely), Bush would win some recounts and Gore would win some.

Read what I wrote LP, they counted EVERY vote, not just the proper ones,
EVERY vote, and Bush won by a larger margin than the official vote gave him.
You are wrong once again, which is at least normal for you.
And I saw the ballots in question, they were very simple to use, I've voted
with them myself before, and Chicago used the same ballot in the same
election without a problem.

>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:bob0k1$s2a$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> > In article <bo8tgh012ij@enews1.newsguy.com>,
> >> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >> > And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe616$i0q$17@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vqjdrv6m9dlk0a@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:vCiqb.11714$9M3.10456@newsread2.news.atl.ear thlink.net...
> >> "And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?"
> >> Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the
results
> >of
> >> Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.
> >
> >And what the Dems never acknowledge is the fact that Floridas votes were
> >recounted again after Bush was declared the winner, every vote was
counted,
> >no matter how poorly marked, and it gave Bush more votes than the final
> >official count had given him.
>
> Wrong. As the media reported, depending on how the votes were counted
> (strictly, loosely), Bush would win some recounts and Gore would win some.

Read what I wrote LP, they counted EVERY vote, not just the proper ones,
EVERY vote, and Bush won by a larger margin than the official vote gave him.
You are wrong once again, which is at least normal for you.
And I saw the ballots in question, they were very simple to use, I've voted
with them myself before, and Chicago used the same ballot in the same
election without a problem.

>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:bob0k1$s2a$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> > In article <bo8tgh012ij@enews1.newsguy.com>,
> >> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >> > And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe616$i0q$17@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vqjdrv6m9dlk0a@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:vCiqb.11714$9M3.10456@newsread2.news.atl.ear thlink.net...
> >> "And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?"
> >> Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the
results
> >of
> >> Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.
> >
> >And what the Dems never acknowledge is the fact that Floridas votes were
> >recounted again after Bush was declared the winner, every vote was
counted,
> >no matter how poorly marked, and it gave Bush more votes than the final
> >official count had given him.
>
> Wrong. As the media reported, depending on how the votes were counted
> (strictly, loosely), Bush would win some recounts and Gore would win some.

Read what I wrote LP, they counted EVERY vote, not just the proper ones,
EVERY vote, and Bush won by a larger margin than the official vote gave him.
You are wrong once again, which is at least normal for you.
And I saw the ballots in question, they were very simple to use, I've voted
with them myself before, and Chicago used the same ballot in the same
election without a problem.

>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:bob0k1$s2a$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> > In article <bo8tgh012ij@enews1.newsguy.com>,
> >> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >> > And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe65n$i0q$19@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <boci0401rri@enews2.newsguy.com>,
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the
results
> >of Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.>
> >
> >Actually it looks like the ORIGINAL results were accurate & valid!
> >
> >The Democrats proved their disegenuousness when they only wanted to
recout
> >three heavily Democratic counties.
>
> FL law allowed for a candidate to ask for a recount in specific counties.

No one minded Gore asking for a recount, he had that right. He did not have
the right to insist on recount after recount until he could find one that
favored him.
Had he bowed out gracefully after the first recount he would have had an
excellent chance of beating Bush in 2004, way he went on though he destroyed
any chance he ever had at winning the Presidency. Sort of like the way you
would do better in debates if you quit after the first reply instead of
digging yourself in deeper with every lie you post.

>
>
> >Worse, with a perfectly straight face
> >they had Bill Daley act as their spokesperson! For those too young to
> >remember, Daley is the son of the late Richard J. Daley, mayor of Chicago
in
> >the 50's & 60's. Daley stole the 1960 election for Kennedy, which had a
much
> >closer National vote count than 2000, only 100,000 difference. Daley's
> >Democratic machine created massive voter fraud, people voted twice, dead
> >people voted, Hell, dead people's DOGS voted. Hence the old Chicago
saying
> >"vote early, vote often!"
>
> The US constitution provides that a person's transgressions do not extend
to
> their children. Guess that puts you on the wrong side of the
constitution.

Constitution does not always affect public perception. If you wish to be
seen as honest you find someone publicly recognized as honest.


>
> >
> >No, old Al Gore screwed himself and the entire Democrat party by what he
> >did, and the public hasn't forgotten. By the way, Texas has only recently
> >become a Republican state. The Democrats have controlled politics there
> >since the 1870's, and their latest trick to keep from accepting reality
was
> >to LEAVE THE STATE! Some representation!
> >
> >

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe65n$i0q$19@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <boci0401rri@enews2.newsguy.com>,
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the
results
> >of Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.>
> >
> >Actually it looks like the ORIGINAL results were accurate & valid!
> >
> >The Democrats proved their disegenuousness when they only wanted to
recout
> >three heavily Democratic counties.
>
> FL law allowed for a candidate to ask for a recount in specific counties.

No one minded Gore asking for a recount, he had that right. He did not have
the right to insist on recount after recount until he could find one that
favored him.
Had he bowed out gracefully after the first recount he would have had an
excellent chance of beating Bush in 2004, way he went on though he destroyed
any chance he ever had at winning the Presidency. Sort of like the way you
would do better in debates if you quit after the first reply instead of
digging yourself in deeper with every lie you post.

>
>
> >Worse, with a perfectly straight face
> >they had Bill Daley act as their spokesperson! For those too young to
> >remember, Daley is the son of the late Richard J. Daley, mayor of Chicago
in
> >the 50's & 60's. Daley stole the 1960 election for Kennedy, which had a
much
> >closer National vote count than 2000, only 100,000 difference. Daley's
> >Democratic machine created massive voter fraud, people voted twice, dead
> >people voted, Hell, dead people's DOGS voted. Hence the old Chicago
saying
> >"vote early, vote often!"
>
> The US constitution provides that a person's transgressions do not extend
to
> their children. Guess that puts you on the wrong side of the
constitution.

Constitution does not always affect public perception. If you wish to be
seen as honest you find someone publicly recognized as honest.


>
> >
> >No, old Al Gore screwed himself and the entire Democrat party by what he
> >did, and the public hasn't forgotten. By the way, Texas has only recently
> >become a Republican state. The Democrats have controlled politics there
> >since the 1870's, and their latest trick to keep from accepting reality
was
> >to LEAVE THE STATE! Some representation!
> >
> >

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe65n$i0q$19@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <boci0401rri@enews2.newsguy.com>,
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the
results
> >of Florida? The final results were accurate and valid.>
> >
> >Actually it looks like the ORIGINAL results were accurate & valid!
> >
> >The Democrats proved their disegenuousness when they only wanted to
recout
> >three heavily Democratic counties.
>
> FL law allowed for a candidate to ask for a recount in specific counties.

No one minded Gore asking for a recount, he had that right. He did not have
the right to insist on recount after recount until he could find one that
favored him.
Had he bowed out gracefully after the first recount he would have had an
excellent chance of beating Bush in 2004, way he went on though he destroyed
any chance he ever had at winning the Presidency. Sort of like the way you
would do better in debates if you quit after the first reply instead of
digging yourself in deeper with every lie you post.

>
>
> >Worse, with a perfectly straight face
> >they had Bill Daley act as their spokesperson! For those too young to
> >remember, Daley is the son of the late Richard J. Daley, mayor of Chicago
in
> >the 50's & 60's. Daley stole the 1960 election for Kennedy, which had a
much
> >closer National vote count than 2000, only 100,000 difference. Daley's
> >Democratic machine created massive voter fraud, people voted twice, dead
> >people voted, Hell, dead people's DOGS voted. Hence the old Chicago
saying
> >"vote early, vote often!"
>
> The US constitution provides that a person's transgressions do not extend
to
> their children. Guess that puts you on the wrong side of the
constitution.

Constitution does not always affect public perception. If you wish to be
seen as honest you find someone publicly recognized as honest.


>
> >
> >No, old Al Gore screwed himself and the entire Democrat party by what he
> >did, and the public hasn't forgotten. By the way, Texas has only recently
> >become a Republican state. The Democrats have controlled politics there
> >since the 1870's, and their latest trick to keep from accepting reality
was
> >to LEAVE THE STATE! Some representation!
> >
> >

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe5tq$i0q$15@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vCiqb.11714$9M3.10456@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net>,
> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >"And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?"
> >Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the results
of
> >Florida?
>
> No, it was the Republicans who tried to stop an honest recounting of the
> votes.
>

No, they granted the honest recounting, it was only after the Democrates
tried to steal the election that the Republicans asked the SCOTUS for a
ruling.

>
> >The final results were accurate and valid.
>
> Says who?

The Supreme Court of the United States of America, and every intelligent
human being on Earth, which rules you out.
I suggest you take a class, any class. You need to learn something to take
the place of that rattle in your empty head.

>
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bob0k1$s2a$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <bo8tgh012ij@enews1.newsguy.com>,
> >> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> ><snip>
> >> And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?
> >>
> >
> >
> >

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe5tq$i0q$15@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vCiqb.11714$9M3.10456@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net>,
> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >"And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?"
> >Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the results
of
> >Florida?
>
> No, it was the Republicans who tried to stop an honest recounting of the
> votes.
>

No, they granted the honest recounting, it was only after the Democrates
tried to steal the election that the Republicans asked the SCOTUS for a
ruling.

>
> >The final results were accurate and valid.
>
> Says who?

The Supreme Court of the United States of America, and every intelligent
human being on Earth, which rules you out.
I suggest you take a class, any class. You need to learn something to take
the place of that rattle in your empty head.

>
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bob0k1$s2a$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <bo8tgh012ij@enews1.newsguy.com>,
> >> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> ><snip>
> >> And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?
> >>
> >
> >
> >

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe5tq$i0q$15@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vCiqb.11714$9M3.10456@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net>,
> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >"And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?"
> >Wasn't it the corrupt democrats that tried to illegally alter the results
of
> >Florida?
>
> No, it was the Republicans who tried to stop an honest recounting of the
> votes.
>

No, they granted the honest recounting, it was only after the Democrates
tried to steal the election that the Republicans asked the SCOTUS for a
ruling.

>
> >The final results were accurate and valid.
>
> Says who?

The Supreme Court of the United States of America, and every intelligent
human being on Earth, which rules you out.
I suggest you take a class, any class. You need to learn something to take
the place of that rattle in your empty head.

>
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bob0k1$s2a$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <bo8tgh012ij@enews1.newsguy.com>,
> >> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> ><snip>
> >> And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?
> >>
> >
> >
> >

 

"David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
news:lKBqb.108210$ZH4.85369@twister.socal.rr.com.. .
>
> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> news:boe681$i0q$20@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > In article <66mqb.54771$Ub4.47968@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> > "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> > >Thanks! Of course these are old arguments. Lloyd's arguments look
like
> > >cut/paste jobs from previous posts he's made. He always says the same
> thing
> > >over and over. And he always degenerates to name calling....
> > >"right-winger", "fascist", "hate-monger", etc.
> >
> > Only when your side starts with the "socialist" or "communist" name
> calling.
> >
> Ok. I'll hold you to that.
>
>
> >
> > >or self-agrandizement being
> > >that he's such an intelligent guy....Phd and all.... "What are YOUR
> > >credentials?" or "Take a science class!".
> >
> > If you're going to challenge established science, you need some
expertise.
> >
>
> Face it Lloyd. There is no expertise that comes from taking a "science
> course", whatever that is. The only course I've seen called "science" is
at
> my daughters middle school. Heck, I took 5 quarters of physics... not
just
> physics, but Berkely Physics... in college and that certainly didn't make
me
> an expert in physics.
>
> In many areas, there is no level of expertise that gets to the real
answers,
> i.e, there's more we don't know that we do know; there's no "established
> science" yet; or it's wrong. Just because one can wave a degree in
> "science" around doesn't give you a level of expertise required to know
the
> answers to questions like global warming or economics or whatever.
>
> For you to generalize your expertise because you have a phd is like
> presuming there's money in your account because you have checks. The
Phd's
> I've worked with are usually people who have expertise in narrow, focused
> areas. For them to claim expertise in any other area is like writing a
> check on an account with insufficient funds.


You've described LP to a T. He knows a little Chemistry, that does not make
him an expert on any of the subjects he claims to know all about. Someday I
really must write Emory a letter concerning our good Doctor Lloyd, let them
in on how much he has damaged their reputation with his -------- posting.