"David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
news:lKBqb.108210$ZH4.85369@twister.socal.rr.com.. .
>
> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> news:boe681$i0q$20@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > In article <66mqb.54771$Ub4.47968@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> > "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> > >Thanks! Of course these are old arguments. Lloyd's arguments look
like
> > >cut/paste jobs from previous posts he's made. He always says the same
> thing
> > >over and over. And he always degenerates to name calling....
> > >"right-winger", "fascist", "hate-monger", etc.
> >
> > Only when your side starts with the "socialist" or "communist" name
> calling.
> >
> Ok. I'll hold you to that.
>
>
> >
> > >or self-agrandizement being
> > >that he's such an intelligent guy....Phd and all.... "What are YOUR
> > >credentials?" or "Take a science class!".
> >
> > If you're going to challenge established science, you need some
expertise.
> >
>
> Face it Lloyd. There is no expertise that comes from taking a "science
> course", whatever that is. The only course I've seen called "science" is
at
> my daughters middle school. Heck, I took 5 quarters of physics... not
just
> physics, but Berkely Physics... in college and that certainly didn't make
me
> an expert in physics.
>
> In many areas, there is no level of expertise that gets to the real
answers,
> i.e, there's more we don't know that we do know; there's no "established
> science" yet; or it's wrong. Just because one can wave a degree in
> "science" around doesn't give you a level of expertise required to know
the
> answers to questions like global warming or economics or whatever.
>
> For you to generalize your expertise because you have a phd is like
> presuming there's money in your account because you have checks. The
Phd's
> I've worked with are usually people who have expertise in narrow, focused
> areas. For them to claim expertise in any other area is like writing a
> check on an account with insufficient funds.


You've described LP to a T. He knows a little Chemistry, that does not make
him an expert on any of the subjects he claims to know all about. Someday I
really must write Emory a letter concerning our good Doctor Lloyd, let them
in on how much he has damaged their reputation with his -------- posting.

 

"David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
news:lKBqb.108210$ZH4.85369@twister.socal.rr.com.. .
>
> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> news:boe681$i0q$20@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > In article <66mqb.54771$Ub4.47968@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> > "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> > >Thanks! Of course these are old arguments. Lloyd's arguments look
like
> > >cut/paste jobs from previous posts he's made. He always says the same
> thing
> > >over and over. And he always degenerates to name calling....
> > >"right-winger", "fascist", "hate-monger", etc.
> >
> > Only when your side starts with the "socialist" or "communist" name
> calling.
> >
> Ok. I'll hold you to that.
>
>
> >
> > >or self-agrandizement being
> > >that he's such an intelligent guy....Phd and all.... "What are YOUR
> > >credentials?" or "Take a science class!".
> >
> > If you're going to challenge established science, you need some
expertise.
> >
>
> Face it Lloyd. There is no expertise that comes from taking a "science
> course", whatever that is. The only course I've seen called "science" is
at
> my daughters middle school. Heck, I took 5 quarters of physics... not
just
> physics, but Berkely Physics... in college and that certainly didn't make
me
> an expert in physics.
>
> In many areas, there is no level of expertise that gets to the real
answers,
> i.e, there's more we don't know that we do know; there's no "established
> science" yet; or it's wrong. Just because one can wave a degree in
> "science" around doesn't give you a level of expertise required to know
the
> answers to questions like global warming or economics or whatever.
>
> For you to generalize your expertise because you have a phd is like
> presuming there's money in your account because you have checks. The
Phd's
> I've worked with are usually people who have expertise in narrow, focused
> areas. For them to claim expertise in any other area is like writing a
> check on an account with insufficient funds.


You've described LP to a T. He knows a little Chemistry, that does not make
him an expert on any of the subjects he claims to know all about. Someday I
really must write Emory a letter concerning our good Doctor Lloyd, let them
in on how much he has damaged their reputation with his -------- posting.

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe5bg$i0q$5@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <Sicqb.54272$Ub4.8985@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Joe wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > "Nature doesn't extinguish fires started by lightening "
> >> > > if this were true, there would be no vegitation on the planet. It
> >would
> >> > > have burned off long before humans showed up.
> >> >
> >> > OK, you got me. I should have said something like "nature lets fires
> >burn
> >> until
> >> > rain storms put them out and doesn't fight them just becasue they are
in
> >> > national forests or near populated areas or becasue they dump lots of
> >> pollution
> >> > into the environment." But I bet you understood what I menat in the
> >first
> >> > place....didn't you?
> >> >
> >> > Ed
> >> >
> >>
> >> What about all those greenhouse gasses that the fires have spewed into
the
> >> air? Does that mean that the environmental groups that blocked any
> >thinning
> >> of the forests are responsible for releasing all that CO2 and
contributing
> >> to global warming. Its certainly put more CO2 into the air than my
little
> >> truck ever will or has in the 11 years I've owned it.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I was thinking the same thing when I went out to get the paper on Sunday
> >morning and saw plumes of smoke the size of thunderheads all the way
across
> >the horizon. There aren't enough SUV's in the world.... NO!.... in
history
> >to put out the amount of greenhouse gases being released in one day! The
> >whole SUV/Greenhouse gases thing is a canard.
> >
> >Ironically, one of the reasons SUV's are so popular is the supply of
large
> >cars with powerful engines were so restricted starting with the1973 CAFE
> >regulations.
> >
> >
> Humans put out more CO2 than nature by several orders of magnitude.

Why do you lie so much LP?
Someday an Asteroid the size of Australia will be on a collision course with
Earth, and you will be the only one on Earth who knows how to deflect it,
but no one will believe you because you've totally destroyed your credibilty
with the lies you post.

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe5bg$i0q$5@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <Sicqb.54272$Ub4.8985@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Joe wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > "Nature doesn't extinguish fires started by lightening "
> >> > > if this were true, there would be no vegitation on the planet. It
> >would
> >> > > have burned off long before humans showed up.
> >> >
> >> > OK, you got me. I should have said something like "nature lets fires
> >burn
> >> until
> >> > rain storms put them out and doesn't fight them just becasue they are
in
> >> > national forests or near populated areas or becasue they dump lots of
> >> pollution
> >> > into the environment." But I bet you understood what I menat in the
> >first
> >> > place....didn't you?
> >> >
> >> > Ed
> >> >
> >>
> >> What about all those greenhouse gasses that the fires have spewed into
the
> >> air? Does that mean that the environmental groups that blocked any
> >thinning
> >> of the forests are responsible for releasing all that CO2 and
contributing
> >> to global warming. Its certainly put more CO2 into the air than my
little
> >> truck ever will or has in the 11 years I've owned it.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I was thinking the same thing when I went out to get the paper on Sunday
> >morning and saw plumes of smoke the size of thunderheads all the way
across
> >the horizon. There aren't enough SUV's in the world.... NO!.... in
history
> >to put out the amount of greenhouse gases being released in one day! The
> >whole SUV/Greenhouse gases thing is a canard.
> >
> >Ironically, one of the reasons SUV's are so popular is the supply of
large
> >cars with powerful engines were so restricted starting with the1973 CAFE
> >regulations.
> >
> >
> Humans put out more CO2 than nature by several orders of magnitude.

Why do you lie so much LP?
Someday an Asteroid the size of Australia will be on a collision course with
Earth, and you will be the only one on Earth who knows how to deflect it,
but no one will believe you because you've totally destroyed your credibilty
with the lies you post.

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe5bg$i0q$5@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <Sicqb.54272$Ub4.8985@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Joe wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > "Nature doesn't extinguish fires started by lightening "
> >> > > if this were true, there would be no vegitation on the planet. It
> >would
> >> > > have burned off long before humans showed up.
> >> >
> >> > OK, you got me. I should have said something like "nature lets fires
> >burn
> >> until
> >> > rain storms put them out and doesn't fight them just becasue they are
in
> >> > national forests or near populated areas or becasue they dump lots of
> >> pollution
> >> > into the environment." But I bet you understood what I menat in the
> >first
> >> > place....didn't you?
> >> >
> >> > Ed
> >> >
> >>
> >> What about all those greenhouse gasses that the fires have spewed into
the
> >> air? Does that mean that the environmental groups that blocked any
> >thinning
> >> of the forests are responsible for releasing all that CO2 and
contributing
> >> to global warming. Its certainly put more CO2 into the air than my
little
> >> truck ever will or has in the 11 years I've owned it.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I was thinking the same thing when I went out to get the paper on Sunday
> >morning and saw plumes of smoke the size of thunderheads all the way
across
> >the horizon. There aren't enough SUV's in the world.... NO!.... in
history
> >to put out the amount of greenhouse gases being released in one day! The
> >whole SUV/Greenhouse gases thing is a canard.
> >
> >Ironically, one of the reasons SUV's are so popular is the supply of
large
> >cars with powerful engines were so restricted starting with the1973 CAFE
> >regulations.
> >
> >
> Humans put out more CO2 than nature by several orders of magnitude.

Why do you lie so much LP?
Someday an Asteroid the size of Australia will be on a collision course with
Earth, and you will be the only one on Earth who knows how to deflect it,
but no one will believe you because you've totally destroyed your credibilty
with the lies you post.

 

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:boe9ib0veg@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> > Totally false. I suggest remedial reading for you. <
>
> Sorry, Mr. Scientist, but volcanic and other geothermal activity are one
of
> the greatest contributors to climatic shifts. The eruption of Krakatoa
> caused global COOLING on a massive scale, the total effect of which lasted
> several years, indeed the first year was referred to in Europe as the
"Year
> Without Summer". More recently the eruption of Mt Pinatubo caused almost
> instantaneous weather pattern changes and had an extreme effect on upper
> atmosphere conditions globally.
>
> Hey, you're supposed to be the scientist around here and you don't know
this
> stuff? Hey, REMEDIAL READING FOR YOU!!!!
>

"Supposed to be" , the key words there. What he knows about science they
teach in kindergarten.

 

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:boe9ib0veg@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> > Totally false. I suggest remedial reading for you. <
>
> Sorry, Mr. Scientist, but volcanic and other geothermal activity are one
of
> the greatest contributors to climatic shifts. The eruption of Krakatoa
> caused global COOLING on a massive scale, the total effect of which lasted
> several years, indeed the first year was referred to in Europe as the
"Year
> Without Summer". More recently the eruption of Mt Pinatubo caused almost
> instantaneous weather pattern changes and had an extreme effect on upper
> atmosphere conditions globally.
>
> Hey, you're supposed to be the scientist around here and you don't know
this
> stuff? Hey, REMEDIAL READING FOR YOU!!!!
>

"Supposed to be" , the key words there. What he knows about science they
teach in kindergarten.

 

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:boe9ib0veg@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> > Totally false. I suggest remedial reading for you. <
>
> Sorry, Mr. Scientist, but volcanic and other geothermal activity are one
of
> the greatest contributors to climatic shifts. The eruption of Krakatoa
> caused global COOLING on a massive scale, the total effect of which lasted
> several years, indeed the first year was referred to in Europe as the
"Year
> Without Summer". More recently the eruption of Mt Pinatubo caused almost
> instantaneous weather pattern changes and had an extreme effect on upper
> atmosphere conditions globally.
>
> Hey, you're supposed to be the scientist around here and you don't know
this
> stuff? Hey, REMEDIAL READING FOR YOU!!!!
>

"Supposed to be" , the key words there. What he knows about science they
teach in kindergarten.

 

> "Supposed to be" , the key words there. What he knows about science they
teach in kindergarten.>

Aw, that's being unkind .... third grade maybe!

 

> "Supposed to be" , the key words there. What he knows about science they
teach in kindergarten.>

Aw, that's being unkind .... third grade maybe!