Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
>
> Certainly doesn't sent any more of a message than the Camry commercial
> with the Camry skidding and spinning along on the freeway ... amazingly
> free of any other traffic. All car commercials are full of hype. Any
> consumer who reads stuff into the commercials isn't terribly bright.
>
AND THAT'S WHY ADVERTISING WORKS!!!! (unfortunately) -Dave
> Certainly doesn't sent any more of a message than the Camry commercial
> with the Camry skidding and spinning along on the freeway ... amazingly
> free of any other traffic. All car commercials are full of hype. Any
> consumer who reads stuff into the commercials isn't terribly bright.
>
AND THAT'S WHY ADVERTISING WORKS!!!! (unfortunately) -Dave
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge> wrote in message
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> While you are partly right, I again refer everyone to the HLDI studies of
> actual loss information, SUVs come out very well compared to medium, and
> small cars. The latter HORRID in any form of crash, and the real-world
stats
> prove it.
>
> This is all just a stupid argument, bigger is safer, get over it!
Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge> wrote in message
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> While you are partly right, I again refer everyone to the HLDI studies of
> actual loss information, SUVs come out very well compared to medium, and
> small cars. The latter HORRID in any form of crash, and the real-world
stats
> prove it.
>
> This is all just a stupid argument, bigger is safer, get over it!
Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge> wrote in message
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> While you are partly right, I again refer everyone to the HLDI studies of
> actual loss information, SUVs come out very well compared to medium, and
> small cars. The latter HORRID in any form of crash, and the real-world
stats
> prove it.
>
> This is all just a stupid argument, bigger is safer, get over it!
Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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> They are *EPA estimates* for those mileages.
> Check with just about any magazine that does tests on such vehicles,
> and you will find very few that actually match the EPA estimates.
> Personally, I usually get from 10% to 20% better mileage than the EPA
> estimates, depending on what I'm carrying, and type of road travelled.
>
That's odd. Every truck or SUV I've ever driven gets about 20% less than
the EPA estimates, lightly loaded in mostly highway driving. In contrast,
I've never driven a car that got less than the EPA estimates, most cars beat
the estimate by at least 10%. -Dave
> They are *EPA estimates* for those mileages.
> Check with just about any magazine that does tests on such vehicles,
> and you will find very few that actually match the EPA estimates.
> Personally, I usually get from 10% to 20% better mileage than the EPA
> estimates, depending on what I'm carrying, and type of road travelled.
>
That's odd. Every truck or SUV I've ever driven gets about 20% less than
the EPA estimates, lightly loaded in mostly highway driving. In contrast,
I've never driven a car that got less than the EPA estimates, most cars beat
the estimate by at least 10%. -Dave
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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> They are *EPA estimates* for those mileages.
> Check with just about any magazine that does tests on such vehicles,
> and you will find very few that actually match the EPA estimates.
> Personally, I usually get from 10% to 20% better mileage than the EPA
> estimates, depending on what I'm carrying, and type of road travelled.
>
That's odd. Every truck or SUV I've ever driven gets about 20% less than
the EPA estimates, lightly loaded in mostly highway driving. In contrast,
I've never driven a car that got less than the EPA estimates, most cars beat
the estimate by at least 10%. -Dave
> They are *EPA estimates* for those mileages.
> Check with just about any magazine that does tests on such vehicles,
> and you will find very few that actually match the EPA estimates.
> Personally, I usually get from 10% to 20% better mileage than the EPA
> estimates, depending on what I'm carrying, and type of road travelled.
>
That's odd. Every truck or SUV I've ever driven gets about 20% less than
the EPA estimates, lightly loaded in mostly highway driving. In contrast,
I've never driven a car that got less than the EPA estimates, most cars beat
the estimate by at least 10%. -Dave
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
>
> They are *EPA estimates* for those mileages.
> Check with just about any magazine that does tests on such vehicles,
> and you will find very few that actually match the EPA estimates.
> Personally, I usually get from 10% to 20% better mileage than the EPA
> estimates, depending on what I'm carrying, and type of road travelled.
>
That's odd. Every truck or SUV I've ever driven gets about 20% less than
the EPA estimates, lightly loaded in mostly highway driving. In contrast,
I've never driven a car that got less than the EPA estimates, most cars beat
the estimate by at least 10%. -Dave
> They are *EPA estimates* for those mileages.
> Check with just about any magazine that does tests on such vehicles,
> and you will find very few that actually match the EPA estimates.
> Personally, I usually get from 10% to 20% better mileage than the EPA
> estimates, depending on what I'm carrying, and type of road travelled.
>
That's odd. Every truck or SUV I've ever driven gets about 20% less than
the EPA estimates, lightly loaded in mostly highway driving. In contrast,
I've never driven a car that got less than the EPA estimates, most cars beat
the estimate by at least 10%. -Dave
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
> Big? Heavy?
>
> You mean it's in the same class as one of these?
> http://www.mercedes-benz.com/com/e/h...ros/index.html
>
> I never fail to be amused by what Americans call "trucks".
>
> :-)
> DAS
To Americans, the following is a typical "truck". The vehicle you linked to
is also called a "truck" in America. The confusion stems from the fact that
in the United States, *pickup* trucks (slang "truck", see the link below)
are wildly popular vehicles to both own and drive. Unfortunately, many SUVs
have been created on pickup truck platforms, and 99% of them are used as
commuters for one person, who invariably drives it like a sports car. Thus,
the horrid SUV problem in the United States. Anyway, we have so many crappy
SUVs based on pickup truck platforms here, that even car-based SUVs are
often mistakenly referred to as "trucks". That's why you are so amused, I
bet. :) -Dave
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f...dex.asp?bhcp=1
>
> You mean it's in the same class as one of these?
> http://www.mercedes-benz.com/com/e/h...ros/index.html
>
> I never fail to be amused by what Americans call "trucks".
>
> :-)
> DAS
To Americans, the following is a typical "truck". The vehicle you linked to
is also called a "truck" in America. The confusion stems from the fact that
in the United States, *pickup* trucks (slang "truck", see the link below)
are wildly popular vehicles to both own and drive. Unfortunately, many SUVs
have been created on pickup truck platforms, and 99% of them are used as
commuters for one person, who invariably drives it like a sports car. Thus,
the horrid SUV problem in the United States. Anyway, we have so many crappy
SUVs based on pickup truck platforms here, that even car-based SUVs are
often mistakenly referred to as "trucks". That's why you are so amused, I
bet. :) -Dave
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f...dex.asp?bhcp=1
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
> Big? Heavy?
>
> You mean it's in the same class as one of these?
> http://www.mercedes-benz.com/com/e/h...ros/index.html
>
> I never fail to be amused by what Americans call "trucks".
>
> :-)
> DAS
To Americans, the following is a typical "truck". The vehicle you linked to
is also called a "truck" in America. The confusion stems from the fact that
in the United States, *pickup* trucks (slang "truck", see the link below)
are wildly popular vehicles to both own and drive. Unfortunately, many SUVs
have been created on pickup truck platforms, and 99% of them are used as
commuters for one person, who invariably drives it like a sports car. Thus,
the horrid SUV problem in the United States. Anyway, we have so many crappy
SUVs based on pickup truck platforms here, that even car-based SUVs are
often mistakenly referred to as "trucks". That's why you are so amused, I
bet. :) -Dave
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f...dex.asp?bhcp=1
>
> You mean it's in the same class as one of these?
> http://www.mercedes-benz.com/com/e/h...ros/index.html
>
> I never fail to be amused by what Americans call "trucks".
>
> :-)
> DAS
To Americans, the following is a typical "truck". The vehicle you linked to
is also called a "truck" in America. The confusion stems from the fact that
in the United States, *pickup* trucks (slang "truck", see the link below)
are wildly popular vehicles to both own and drive. Unfortunately, many SUVs
have been created on pickup truck platforms, and 99% of them are used as
commuters for one person, who invariably drives it like a sports car. Thus,
the horrid SUV problem in the United States. Anyway, we have so many crappy
SUVs based on pickup truck platforms here, that even car-based SUVs are
often mistakenly referred to as "trucks". That's why you are so amused, I
bet. :) -Dave
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f...dex.asp?bhcp=1
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
> Big? Heavy?
>
> You mean it's in the same class as one of these?
> http://www.mercedes-benz.com/com/e/h...ros/index.html
>
> I never fail to be amused by what Americans call "trucks".
>
> :-)
> DAS
To Americans, the following is a typical "truck". The vehicle you linked to
is also called a "truck" in America. The confusion stems from the fact that
in the United States, *pickup* trucks (slang "truck", see the link below)
are wildly popular vehicles to both own and drive. Unfortunately, many SUVs
have been created on pickup truck platforms, and 99% of them are used as
commuters for one person, who invariably drives it like a sports car. Thus,
the horrid SUV problem in the United States. Anyway, we have so many crappy
SUVs based on pickup truck platforms here, that even car-based SUVs are
often mistakenly referred to as "trucks". That's why you are so amused, I
bet. :) -Dave
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f...dex.asp?bhcp=1
>
> You mean it's in the same class as one of these?
> http://www.mercedes-benz.com/com/e/h...ros/index.html
>
> I never fail to be amused by what Americans call "trucks".
>
> :-)
> DAS
To Americans, the following is a typical "truck". The vehicle you linked to
is also called a "truck" in America. The confusion stems from the fact that
in the United States, *pickup* trucks (slang "truck", see the link below)
are wildly popular vehicles to both own and drive. Unfortunately, many SUVs
have been created on pickup truck platforms, and 99% of them are used as
commuters for one person, who invariably drives it like a sports car. Thus,
the horrid SUV problem in the United States. Anyway, we have so many crappy
SUVs based on pickup truck platforms here, that even car-based SUVs are
often mistakenly referred to as "trucks". That's why you are so amused, I
bet. :) -Dave
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f...dex.asp?bhcp=1