Help: CJ idle/running problem
05-17-2004, 11:56 PM
#31
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Re: CJ idle/running problem
He says he managed to get it out but I didn't ask how - though I
should have. Might have made for an interesting story.
On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:38:32 GMT, "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>just a quick question....where's the other end of hte dipstick?! did it
>break off in the engine? Will it get in to the oil pump or anything and do
>damage?
>
>
>"Rob" <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote in message
>news:nt9ga0159btb1kjjqmkoragvgjmh52nrhv@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>> was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>> and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>
>> Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>> the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>> he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>> if its full or not.
>>
>> Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>> the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>
>> It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>> running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>> the intake manifold.
>>
>> I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>> damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>> some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>> idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>
>> Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>> the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
should have. Might have made for an interesting story.
On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:38:32 GMT, "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>just a quick question....where's the other end of hte dipstick?! did it
>break off in the engine? Will it get in to the oil pump or anything and do
>damage?
>
>
>"Rob" <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote in message
>news:nt9ga0159btb1kjjqmkoragvgjmh52nrhv@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>> was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>> and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>
>> Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>> the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>> he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>> if its full or not.
>>
>> Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>> the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>
>> It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>> running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>> the intake manifold.
>>
>> I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>> damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>> some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>> idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>
>> Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>> the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
05-17-2004, 11:56 PM
#32
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Posts: n/a
Re: CJ idle/running problem
He says he managed to get it out but I didn't ask how - though I
should have. Might have made for an interesting story.
On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:38:32 GMT, "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>just a quick question....where's the other end of hte dipstick?! did it
>break off in the engine? Will it get in to the oil pump or anything and do
>damage?
>
>
>"Rob" <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote in message
>news:nt9ga0159btb1kjjqmkoragvgjmh52nrhv@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>> was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>> and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>
>> Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>> the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>> he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>> if its full or not.
>>
>> Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>> the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>
>> It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>> running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>> the intake manifold.
>>
>> I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>> damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>> some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>> idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>
>> Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>> the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
should have. Might have made for an interesting story.
On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:38:32 GMT, "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>just a quick question....where's the other end of hte dipstick?! did it
>break off in the engine? Will it get in to the oil pump or anything and do
>damage?
>
>
>"Rob" <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote in message
>news:nt9ga0159btb1kjjqmkoragvgjmh52nrhv@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>> was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>> and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>
>> Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>> the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>> he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>> if its full or not.
>>
>> Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>> the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>
>> It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>> running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>> the intake manifold.
>>
>> I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>> damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>> some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>> idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>
>> Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>> the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
05-17-2004, 11:56 PM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: CJ idle/running problem
He says he managed to get it out but I didn't ask how - though I
should have. Might have made for an interesting story.
On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:38:32 GMT, "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>just a quick question....where's the other end of hte dipstick?! did it
>break off in the engine? Will it get in to the oil pump or anything and do
>damage?
>
>
>"Rob" <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote in message
>news:nt9ga0159btb1kjjqmkoragvgjmh52nrhv@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>> was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>> and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>
>> Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>> the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>> he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>> if its full or not.
>>
>> Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>> the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>
>> It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>> running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>> the intake manifold.
>>
>> I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>> damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>> some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>> idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>
>> Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>> the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
should have. Might have made for an interesting story.
On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:38:32 GMT, "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>just a quick question....where's the other end of hte dipstick?! did it
>break off in the engine? Will it get in to the oil pump or anything and do
>damage?
>
>
>"Rob" <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote in message
>news:nt9ga0159btb1kjjqmkoragvgjmh52nrhv@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>> was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>> and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>
>> Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>> the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>> he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>> if its full or not.
>>
>> Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>> the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>
>> It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>> running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>> the intake manifold.
>>
>> I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>> damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>> some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>> idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>
>> Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>> the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
05-18-2004, 10:53 AM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
"reddish brown"
rust?
Rob wrote:
> That does sound like a nightmare.
>
> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
> with a Holley carb:
> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>
> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
> color, others more reddish brown.
>
> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 11:16:11 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>You really don't want the same answer for both....
>>
>>Too much oil will hit the crankshaft. The crankshaft then turns the oil
>>to foam. The oil pump pumps foam to the bearings. The engine then
>>starts slowing down while seizing up from lack of oil.
>>
>>Or hopefully you can just drain the sucker and put the right amount in
>>and that will stop the oil all over the place.
>>
>>You 'really' need to tell us what 'kind' of engine and the year for us
>>to point you to say a common carb fix for no idle, leaky valve cover
>>issues with one engine, etc...
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>>Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>>>blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>>>an idle.
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>>>>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>>>>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>>>
>>>>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>>>>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>>>>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>>>>if its full or not.
>>>>
>>>>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>>>>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>>>
>>>>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>>>>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>>>>the intake manifold.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>>>>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>>>>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>>>>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>>>>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>>
>
>
rust?
Rob wrote:
> That does sound like a nightmare.
>
> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
> with a Holley carb:
> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>
> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
> color, others more reddish brown.
>
> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 11:16:11 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>You really don't want the same answer for both....
>>
>>Too much oil will hit the crankshaft. The crankshaft then turns the oil
>>to foam. The oil pump pumps foam to the bearings. The engine then
>>starts slowing down while seizing up from lack of oil.
>>
>>Or hopefully you can just drain the sucker and put the right amount in
>>and that will stop the oil all over the place.
>>
>>You 'really' need to tell us what 'kind' of engine and the year for us
>>to point you to say a common carb fix for no idle, leaky valve cover
>>issues with one engine, etc...
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>>Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>>>blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>>>an idle.
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>>>>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>>>>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>>>
>>>>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>>>>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>>>>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>>>>if its full or not.
>>>>
>>>>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>>>>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>>>
>>>>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>>>>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>>>>the intake manifold.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>>>>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>>>>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>>>>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>>>>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>>
>
>
05-18-2004, 10:53 AM
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
"reddish brown"
rust?
Rob wrote:
> That does sound like a nightmare.
>
> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
> with a Holley carb:
> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>
> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
> color, others more reddish brown.
>
> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 11:16:11 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>You really don't want the same answer for both....
>>
>>Too much oil will hit the crankshaft. The crankshaft then turns the oil
>>to foam. The oil pump pumps foam to the bearings. The engine then
>>starts slowing down while seizing up from lack of oil.
>>
>>Or hopefully you can just drain the sucker and put the right amount in
>>and that will stop the oil all over the place.
>>
>>You 'really' need to tell us what 'kind' of engine and the year for us
>>to point you to say a common carb fix for no idle, leaky valve cover
>>issues with one engine, etc...
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>>Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>>>blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>>>an idle.
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>>>>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>>>>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>>>
>>>>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>>>>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>>>>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>>>>if its full or not.
>>>>
>>>>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>>>>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>>>
>>>>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>>>>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>>>>the intake manifold.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>>>>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>>>>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>>>>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>>>>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>>
>
>
rust?
Rob wrote:
> That does sound like a nightmare.
>
> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
> with a Holley carb:
> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>
> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
> color, others more reddish brown.
>
> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 11:16:11 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>You really don't want the same answer for both....
>>
>>Too much oil will hit the crankshaft. The crankshaft then turns the oil
>>to foam. The oil pump pumps foam to the bearings. The engine then
>>starts slowing down while seizing up from lack of oil.
>>
>>Or hopefully you can just drain the sucker and put the right amount in
>>and that will stop the oil all over the place.
>>
>>You 'really' need to tell us what 'kind' of engine and the year for us
>>to point you to say a common carb fix for no idle, leaky valve cover
>>issues with one engine, etc...
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>>Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>>>blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>>>an idle.
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>>>>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>>>>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>>>
>>>>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>>>>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>>>>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>>>>if its full or not.
>>>>
>>>>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>>>>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>>>
>>>>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>>>>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>>>>the intake manifold.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>>>>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>>>>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>>>>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>>>>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>>
>
>
05-18-2004, 10:53 AM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
"reddish brown"
rust?
Rob wrote:
> That does sound like a nightmare.
>
> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
> with a Holley carb:
> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>
> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
> color, others more reddish brown.
>
> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 11:16:11 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>You really don't want the same answer for both....
>>
>>Too much oil will hit the crankshaft. The crankshaft then turns the oil
>>to foam. The oil pump pumps foam to the bearings. The engine then
>>starts slowing down while seizing up from lack of oil.
>>
>>Or hopefully you can just drain the sucker and put the right amount in
>>and that will stop the oil all over the place.
>>
>>You 'really' need to tell us what 'kind' of engine and the year for us
>>to point you to say a common carb fix for no idle, leaky valve cover
>>issues with one engine, etc...
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>>Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>>>blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>>>an idle.
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>>>>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>>>>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>>>
>>>>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>>>>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>>>>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>>>>if its full or not.
>>>>
>>>>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>>>>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>>>
>>>>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>>>>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>>>>the intake manifold.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>>>>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>>>>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>>>>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>>>>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>>
>
>
rust?
Rob wrote:
> That does sound like a nightmare.
>
> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
> with a Holley carb:
> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>
> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
> color, others more reddish brown.
>
> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 11:16:11 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>You really don't want the same answer for both....
>>
>>Too much oil will hit the crankshaft. The crankshaft then turns the oil
>>to foam. The oil pump pumps foam to the bearings. The engine then
>>starts slowing down while seizing up from lack of oil.
>>
>>Or hopefully you can just drain the sucker and put the right amount in
>>and that will stop the oil all over the place.
>>
>>You 'really' need to tell us what 'kind' of engine and the year for us
>>to point you to say a common carb fix for no idle, leaky valve cover
>>issues with one engine, etc...
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>>Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>>>blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>>>an idle.
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>>>>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>>>>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>>>
>>>>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>>>>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>>>>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>>>>if its full or not.
>>>>
>>>>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>>>>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>>>
>>>>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>>>>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>>>>the intake manifold.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>>>>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>>>>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>>>>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>>>>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>>
>
>
05-18-2004, 10:53 AM
#37
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Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
"reddish brown"
rust?
Rob wrote:
> That does sound like a nightmare.
>
> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
> with a Holley carb:
> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>
> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
> color, others more reddish brown.
>
> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 11:16:11 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>You really don't want the same answer for both....
>>
>>Too much oil will hit the crankshaft. The crankshaft then turns the oil
>>to foam. The oil pump pumps foam to the bearings. The engine then
>>starts slowing down while seizing up from lack of oil.
>>
>>Or hopefully you can just drain the sucker and put the right amount in
>>and that will stop the oil all over the place.
>>
>>You 'really' need to tell us what 'kind' of engine and the year for us
>>to point you to say a common carb fix for no idle, leaky valve cover
>>issues with one engine, etc...
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>>Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>>>blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>>>an idle.
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>>>>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>>>>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>>>
>>>>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>>>>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>>>>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>>>>if its full or not.
>>>>
>>>>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>>>>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>>>
>>>>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>>>>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>>>>the intake manifold.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>>>>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>>>>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>>>>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>>>>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>>
>
>
rust?
Rob wrote:
> That does sound like a nightmare.
>
> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
> with a Holley carb:
> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>
> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
> color, others more reddish brown.
>
> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 11:16:11 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>You really don't want the same answer for both....
>>
>>Too much oil will hit the crankshaft. The crankshaft then turns the oil
>>to foam. The oil pump pumps foam to the bearings. The engine then
>>starts slowing down while seizing up from lack of oil.
>>
>>Or hopefully you can just drain the sucker and put the right amount in
>>and that will stop the oil all over the place.
>>
>>You 'really' need to tell us what 'kind' of engine and the year for us
>>to point you to say a common carb fix for no idle, leaky valve cover
>>issues with one engine, etc...
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>>Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>>>blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>>>an idle.
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>>>>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>>>>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>>>
>>>>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>>>>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>>>>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>>>>if its full or not.
>>>>
>>>>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>>>>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>>>
>>>>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>>>>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>>>>the intake manifold.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>>>>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>>>>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>>>>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>>>>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>>
>
>
05-18-2004, 05:38 PM
#38
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Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
Jo did pass the time by typing:
> "reddish brown"
> rust?
MMT / gasoline additives will make plugs that color and
it's normal.
> Rob wrote:
>
>> That does sound like a nightmare.
>>
>> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
>> with a Holley carb:
>> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>>
>> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
>> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
>> color, others more reddish brown.
>>
>> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
> "reddish brown"
> rust?
MMT / gasoline additives will make plugs that color and
it's normal.
> Rob wrote:
>
>> That does sound like a nightmare.
>>
>> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
>> with a Holley carb:
>> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>>
>> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
>> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
>> color, others more reddish brown.
>>
>> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
05-18-2004, 05:38 PM
#39
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Posts: n/a
Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
Jo did pass the time by typing:
> "reddish brown"
> rust?
MMT / gasoline additives will make plugs that color and
it's normal.
> Rob wrote:
>
>> That does sound like a nightmare.
>>
>> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
>> with a Holley carb:
>> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>>
>> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
>> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
>> color, others more reddish brown.
>>
>> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
> "reddish brown"
> rust?
MMT / gasoline additives will make plugs that color and
it's normal.
> Rob wrote:
>
>> That does sound like a nightmare.
>>
>> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
>> with a Holley carb:
>> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>>
>> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
>> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
>> color, others more reddish brown.
>>
>> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
05-18-2004, 05:38 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
Jo did pass the time by typing:
> "reddish brown"
> rust?
MMT / gasoline additives will make plugs that color and
it's normal.
> Rob wrote:
>
>> That does sound like a nightmare.
>>
>> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
>> with a Holley carb:
>> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>>
>> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
>> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
>> color, others more reddish brown.
>>
>> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
> "reddish brown"
> rust?
MMT / gasoline additives will make plugs that color and
it's normal.
> Rob wrote:
>
>> That does sound like a nightmare.
>>
>> It's an '83 CJ-7 with the 258 I6. The owner replaced the stock carb
>> with a Holley carb:
>> http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...SC/0-8007.html
>>
>> I checked the plugs and none were oily, though all looked "well
>> seasoned". Roughly the look and feel of sandpaper - some light in
>> color, others more reddish brown.
>>
>> The motor was rebuilt in '97 about 14k miles ago.
