Help!!!!!!
#51
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Re: Help!!!!!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447F44E1.516F62C1@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> I live in the rust belt and see soo many things like not enough power
> for spark all because of that damn body ground. Including things that
> use the body ground like wipers with an attitude and headlights that
> stagger the engine when turned on....
>
> What make of truck?
>
Ford F-150. I was looking for something to haul lumber 1 mile to a house I'm
fixing up. I was actually looking for a 2 wheel drive because they're
cheaper. There just aren't too many around in Massachusetts. My only
requirements were an eight foot bed, and a new inspection sticker. Looks
like I got exactly what I asked for.
It rattles enough to remind me of my YJ.
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Steve Foley wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Are there any problems that cannot be caused by a bad body ground?
> >
> > How about this one?
> >
> > Just bought a Pickup (not a Jeep - mine's off the road for major
> > restoration). The wipers turn off whenever they want. Last night when I
was
> > driving it home, the engine sputtered for just a second, when I turned
on
> > the high beams. Didn't do it every time I turned them on, but at least
five
> > times.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:447EE865.6F85D57F@sympatico.ca...
> > > A corroded body ground can act like that.... I would run a booster
> > > cable from the battery negative to a metal contact on the body to see
if
> > > it then starts.
news:447F44E1.516F62C1@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> I live in the rust belt and see soo many things like not enough power
> for spark all because of that damn body ground. Including things that
> use the body ground like wipers with an attitude and headlights that
> stagger the engine when turned on....
>
> What make of truck?
>
Ford F-150. I was looking for something to haul lumber 1 mile to a house I'm
fixing up. I was actually looking for a 2 wheel drive because they're
cheaper. There just aren't too many around in Massachusetts. My only
requirements were an eight foot bed, and a new inspection sticker. Looks
like I got exactly what I asked for.
It rattles enough to remind me of my YJ.
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Steve Foley wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Are there any problems that cannot be caused by a bad body ground?
> >
> > How about this one?
> >
> > Just bought a Pickup (not a Jeep - mine's off the road for major
> > restoration). The wipers turn off whenever they want. Last night when I
was
> > driving it home, the engine sputtered for just a second, when I turned
on
> > the high beams. Didn't do it every time I turned them on, but at least
five
> > times.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:447EE865.6F85D57F@sympatico.ca...
> > > A corroded body ground can act like that.... I would run a booster
> > > cable from the battery negative to a metal contact on the body to see
if
> > > it then starts.
#52
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Re: Help!!!!!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447F44E1.516F62C1@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> I live in the rust belt and see soo many things like not enough power
> for spark all because of that damn body ground. Including things that
> use the body ground like wipers with an attitude and headlights that
> stagger the engine when turned on....
>
> What make of truck?
>
Ford F-150. I was looking for something to haul lumber 1 mile to a house I'm
fixing up. I was actually looking for a 2 wheel drive because they're
cheaper. There just aren't too many around in Massachusetts. My only
requirements were an eight foot bed, and a new inspection sticker. Looks
like I got exactly what I asked for.
It rattles enough to remind me of my YJ.
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Steve Foley wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Are there any problems that cannot be caused by a bad body ground?
> >
> > How about this one?
> >
> > Just bought a Pickup (not a Jeep - mine's off the road for major
> > restoration). The wipers turn off whenever they want. Last night when I
was
> > driving it home, the engine sputtered for just a second, when I turned
on
> > the high beams. Didn't do it every time I turned them on, but at least
five
> > times.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:447EE865.6F85D57F@sympatico.ca...
> > > A corroded body ground can act like that.... I would run a booster
> > > cable from the battery negative to a metal contact on the body to see
if
> > > it then starts.
news:447F44E1.516F62C1@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> I live in the rust belt and see soo many things like not enough power
> for spark all because of that damn body ground. Including things that
> use the body ground like wipers with an attitude and headlights that
> stagger the engine when turned on....
>
> What make of truck?
>
Ford F-150. I was looking for something to haul lumber 1 mile to a house I'm
fixing up. I was actually looking for a 2 wheel drive because they're
cheaper. There just aren't too many around in Massachusetts. My only
requirements were an eight foot bed, and a new inspection sticker. Looks
like I got exactly what I asked for.
It rattles enough to remind me of my YJ.
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Steve Foley wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Are there any problems that cannot be caused by a bad body ground?
> >
> > How about this one?
> >
> > Just bought a Pickup (not a Jeep - mine's off the road for major
> > restoration). The wipers turn off whenever they want. Last night when I
was
> > driving it home, the engine sputtered for just a second, when I turned
on
> > the high beams. Didn't do it every time I turned them on, but at least
five
> > times.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:447EE865.6F85D57F@sympatico.ca...
> > > A corroded body ground can act like that.... I would run a booster
> > > cable from the battery negative to a metal contact on the body to see
if
> > > it then starts.
#53
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Re: Help!!!!!!
Steve Foley wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Are there any problems that cannot be caused by a bad body ground?
>
> How about this one?
>
> Just bought a Pickup (not a Jeep - mine's off the road for major
> restoration). The wipers turn off whenever they want. Last night when I was
> driving it home, the engine sputtered for just a second, when I turned on
> the high beams. Didn't do it every time I turned them on, but at least five
> times.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:447EE865.6F85D57F@sympatico.ca...
>> A corroded body ground can act like that.... I would run a booster
>> cable from the battery negative to a metal contact on the body to see if
>> it then starts.
>
>
I had a '66 Plymouth wagon that, parked with the key out, turn the turn
signal on (shouldn't work with the key off) and the radio would come on
(which also shouldn't work with the key off.) Not bad ground though, bad
harness.
To the OP:
have you tried bumping the starter instead of grinding it? Sometimes
they lite better if you hit it, let it go round a turn or two, then
release the key... Something about building pressure in the fuel rail or
something.
> Mike,
>
> Are there any problems that cannot be caused by a bad body ground?
>
> How about this one?
>
> Just bought a Pickup (not a Jeep - mine's off the road for major
> restoration). The wipers turn off whenever they want. Last night when I was
> driving it home, the engine sputtered for just a second, when I turned on
> the high beams. Didn't do it every time I turned them on, but at least five
> times.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:447EE865.6F85D57F@sympatico.ca...
>> A corroded body ground can act like that.... I would run a booster
>> cable from the battery negative to a metal contact on the body to see if
>> it then starts.
>
>
I had a '66 Plymouth wagon that, parked with the key out, turn the turn
signal on (shouldn't work with the key off) and the radio would come on
(which also shouldn't work with the key off.) Not bad ground though, bad
harness.
To the OP:
have you tried bumping the starter instead of grinding it? Sometimes
they lite better if you hit it, let it go round a turn or two, then
release the key... Something about building pressure in the fuel rail or
something.
#54
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Posts: n/a
Re: Help!!!!!!
Steve Foley wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Are there any problems that cannot be caused by a bad body ground?
>
> How about this one?
>
> Just bought a Pickup (not a Jeep - mine's off the road for major
> restoration). The wipers turn off whenever they want. Last night when I was
> driving it home, the engine sputtered for just a second, when I turned on
> the high beams. Didn't do it every time I turned them on, but at least five
> times.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:447EE865.6F85D57F@sympatico.ca...
>> A corroded body ground can act like that.... I would run a booster
>> cable from the battery negative to a metal contact on the body to see if
>> it then starts.
>
>
I had a '66 Plymouth wagon that, parked with the key out, turn the turn
signal on (shouldn't work with the key off) and the radio would come on
(which also shouldn't work with the key off.) Not bad ground though, bad
harness.
To the OP:
have you tried bumping the starter instead of grinding it? Sometimes
they lite better if you hit it, let it go round a turn or two, then
release the key... Something about building pressure in the fuel rail or
something.
> Mike,
>
> Are there any problems that cannot be caused by a bad body ground?
>
> How about this one?
>
> Just bought a Pickup (not a Jeep - mine's off the road for major
> restoration). The wipers turn off whenever they want. Last night when I was
> driving it home, the engine sputtered for just a second, when I turned on
> the high beams. Didn't do it every time I turned them on, but at least five
> times.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:447EE865.6F85D57F@sympatico.ca...
>> A corroded body ground can act like that.... I would run a booster
>> cable from the battery negative to a metal contact on the body to see if
>> it then starts.
>
>
I had a '66 Plymouth wagon that, parked with the key out, turn the turn
signal on (shouldn't work with the key off) and the radio would come on
(which also shouldn't work with the key off.) Not bad ground though, bad
harness.
To the OP:
have you tried bumping the starter instead of grinding it? Sometimes
they lite better if you hit it, let it go round a turn or two, then
release the key... Something about building pressure in the fuel rail or
something.
#55
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Re: Help!!!!!!
Steve Foley wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Are there any problems that cannot be caused by a bad body ground?
>
> How about this one?
>
> Just bought a Pickup (not a Jeep - mine's off the road for major
> restoration). The wipers turn off whenever they want. Last night when I was
> driving it home, the engine sputtered for just a second, when I turned on
> the high beams. Didn't do it every time I turned them on, but at least five
> times.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:447EE865.6F85D57F@sympatico.ca...
>> A corroded body ground can act like that.... I would run a booster
>> cable from the battery negative to a metal contact on the body to see if
>> it then starts.
>
>
I had a '66 Plymouth wagon that, parked with the key out, turn the turn
signal on (shouldn't work with the key off) and the radio would come on
(which also shouldn't work with the key off.) Not bad ground though, bad
harness.
To the OP:
have you tried bumping the starter instead of grinding it? Sometimes
they lite better if you hit it, let it go round a turn or two, then
release the key... Something about building pressure in the fuel rail or
something.
> Mike,
>
> Are there any problems that cannot be caused by a bad body ground?
>
> How about this one?
>
> Just bought a Pickup (not a Jeep - mine's off the road for major
> restoration). The wipers turn off whenever they want. Last night when I was
> driving it home, the engine sputtered for just a second, when I turned on
> the high beams. Didn't do it every time I turned them on, but at least five
> times.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:447EE865.6F85D57F@sympatico.ca...
>> A corroded body ground can act like that.... I would run a booster
>> cable from the battery negative to a metal contact on the body to see if
>> it then starts.
>
>
I had a '66 Plymouth wagon that, parked with the key out, turn the turn
signal on (shouldn't work with the key off) and the radio would come on
(which also shouldn't work with the key off.) Not bad ground though, bad
harness.
To the OP:
have you tried bumping the starter instead of grinding it? Sometimes
they lite better if you hit it, let it go round a turn or two, then
release the key... Something about building pressure in the fuel rail or
something.
#56
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Posts: n/a
Re: Help!!!!!!
Yes, but he said "after a couple of tries", it may be that the couple of
tries caused enough vibration to get the bad part functioning again.
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> Nope, his starts with a push.
>
> Mike
>
> reconair wrote:
>
>>Crankshaft Position Sensor!!!
>>"GG" <genmail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:KLzfg.2780$EF1.214942@news20.bellglobal.com ...
>>
>>>Don't worry! I don't know that much :)
>>>Yes it is spinning over normally but it doesn't start.
>>>
>>>The fuel pump is going and it does look like I'm not getting any spark!
>>>
>>>Giuseppe.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Aatfg.11675$Qg.10791@tornado.southeast.rr. com...
>>>
>>>>Key question, when you try to start it and it won't start does it seem
>>>>like it's spinning over normally or does it sound slow?
>>>>
>>>>I don't know how much you know about cars so please don't think I'm being
>>>>insulting but lets get to the basics here.
>>>>
>>>>You have to have three things for the Jeep to start, fuel in the right
>>>>amount at the right time, spark that's strong enough and at the right
>>>>time, and a starter spinning the engine over fast enough for it to start.
>>>>
>>>>If any one of those isn't right the car is either going to give you a
>>>>hard time starting or is going to fail to start at all.
>>>>
>>>>I get the feeling your Jeep is spinning over normally but just isn't
>>>>starting, is that correct?
>>>>
>>>>If it is try turning on the engine like you are going to start it but
>>>>don't turn to the start position, do you hear a motor noise coming from
>>>>the back? You should be hearing the fuel pump for a few seconds after
>>>>you turn the ignition on, then it should stop when the fuel pressure
>>>>builds up.
>>>>
>>>>Assuming you hear the fuel pump then try taking a spark plug wire loose
>>>>and holding it a half inch or so from the engine (insulated pliers are a
>>>>really good idea for this!), and have someone spin the engine over. I
>>>>suspect you won't see a spark, but you should see a nice fat blue one.
>>>>
>>>>If all that is so (no spark) your next job is to find out why. Others
>>>>here have a lot more experience in troubleshooting these systems then I
>>>>do, but one thing I would do is check all the connections and make sure
>>>>everything on the ignition system is securely plugged in.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>>
>>>>GG wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another
>>>>>car? I
>>>>>tried it and it didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Giuseppe.
>>>>>97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
>>>>>
>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first
>>>>>>glance. More info! Get a multitester and check?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
tries caused enough vibration to get the bad part functioning again.
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> Nope, his starts with a push.
>
> Mike
>
> reconair wrote:
>
>>Crankshaft Position Sensor!!!
>>"GG" <genmail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:KLzfg.2780$EF1.214942@news20.bellglobal.com ...
>>
>>>Don't worry! I don't know that much :)
>>>Yes it is spinning over normally but it doesn't start.
>>>
>>>The fuel pump is going and it does look like I'm not getting any spark!
>>>
>>>Giuseppe.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Aatfg.11675$Qg.10791@tornado.southeast.rr. com...
>>>
>>>>Key question, when you try to start it and it won't start does it seem
>>>>like it's spinning over normally or does it sound slow?
>>>>
>>>>I don't know how much you know about cars so please don't think I'm being
>>>>insulting but lets get to the basics here.
>>>>
>>>>You have to have three things for the Jeep to start, fuel in the right
>>>>amount at the right time, spark that's strong enough and at the right
>>>>time, and a starter spinning the engine over fast enough for it to start.
>>>>
>>>>If any one of those isn't right the car is either going to give you a
>>>>hard time starting or is going to fail to start at all.
>>>>
>>>>I get the feeling your Jeep is spinning over normally but just isn't
>>>>starting, is that correct?
>>>>
>>>>If it is try turning on the engine like you are going to start it but
>>>>don't turn to the start position, do you hear a motor noise coming from
>>>>the back? You should be hearing the fuel pump for a few seconds after
>>>>you turn the ignition on, then it should stop when the fuel pressure
>>>>builds up.
>>>>
>>>>Assuming you hear the fuel pump then try taking a spark plug wire loose
>>>>and holding it a half inch or so from the engine (insulated pliers are a
>>>>really good idea for this!), and have someone spin the engine over. I
>>>>suspect you won't see a spark, but you should see a nice fat blue one.
>>>>
>>>>If all that is so (no spark) your next job is to find out why. Others
>>>>here have a lot more experience in troubleshooting these systems then I
>>>>do, but one thing I would do is check all the connections and make sure
>>>>everything on the ignition system is securely plugged in.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>>
>>>>GG wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another
>>>>>car? I
>>>>>tried it and it didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Giuseppe.
>>>>>97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
>>>>>
>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first
>>>>>>glance. More info! Get a multitester and check?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Help!!!!!!
Yes, but he said "after a couple of tries", it may be that the couple of
tries caused enough vibration to get the bad part functioning again.
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> Nope, his starts with a push.
>
> Mike
>
> reconair wrote:
>
>>Crankshaft Position Sensor!!!
>>"GG" <genmail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:KLzfg.2780$EF1.214942@news20.bellglobal.com ...
>>
>>>Don't worry! I don't know that much :)
>>>Yes it is spinning over normally but it doesn't start.
>>>
>>>The fuel pump is going and it does look like I'm not getting any spark!
>>>
>>>Giuseppe.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Aatfg.11675$Qg.10791@tornado.southeast.rr. com...
>>>
>>>>Key question, when you try to start it and it won't start does it seem
>>>>like it's spinning over normally or does it sound slow?
>>>>
>>>>I don't know how much you know about cars so please don't think I'm being
>>>>insulting but lets get to the basics here.
>>>>
>>>>You have to have three things for the Jeep to start, fuel in the right
>>>>amount at the right time, spark that's strong enough and at the right
>>>>time, and a starter spinning the engine over fast enough for it to start.
>>>>
>>>>If any one of those isn't right the car is either going to give you a
>>>>hard time starting or is going to fail to start at all.
>>>>
>>>>I get the feeling your Jeep is spinning over normally but just isn't
>>>>starting, is that correct?
>>>>
>>>>If it is try turning on the engine like you are going to start it but
>>>>don't turn to the start position, do you hear a motor noise coming from
>>>>the back? You should be hearing the fuel pump for a few seconds after
>>>>you turn the ignition on, then it should stop when the fuel pressure
>>>>builds up.
>>>>
>>>>Assuming you hear the fuel pump then try taking a spark plug wire loose
>>>>and holding it a half inch or so from the engine (insulated pliers are a
>>>>really good idea for this!), and have someone spin the engine over. I
>>>>suspect you won't see a spark, but you should see a nice fat blue one.
>>>>
>>>>If all that is so (no spark) your next job is to find out why. Others
>>>>here have a lot more experience in troubleshooting these systems then I
>>>>do, but one thing I would do is check all the connections and make sure
>>>>everything on the ignition system is securely plugged in.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>>
>>>>GG wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another
>>>>>car? I
>>>>>tried it and it didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Giuseppe.
>>>>>97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
>>>>>
>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first
>>>>>>glance. More info! Get a multitester and check?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
tries caused enough vibration to get the bad part functioning again.
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> Nope, his starts with a push.
>
> Mike
>
> reconair wrote:
>
>>Crankshaft Position Sensor!!!
>>"GG" <genmail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:KLzfg.2780$EF1.214942@news20.bellglobal.com ...
>>
>>>Don't worry! I don't know that much :)
>>>Yes it is spinning over normally but it doesn't start.
>>>
>>>The fuel pump is going and it does look like I'm not getting any spark!
>>>
>>>Giuseppe.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Aatfg.11675$Qg.10791@tornado.southeast.rr. com...
>>>
>>>>Key question, when you try to start it and it won't start does it seem
>>>>like it's spinning over normally or does it sound slow?
>>>>
>>>>I don't know how much you know about cars so please don't think I'm being
>>>>insulting but lets get to the basics here.
>>>>
>>>>You have to have three things for the Jeep to start, fuel in the right
>>>>amount at the right time, spark that's strong enough and at the right
>>>>time, and a starter spinning the engine over fast enough for it to start.
>>>>
>>>>If any one of those isn't right the car is either going to give you a
>>>>hard time starting or is going to fail to start at all.
>>>>
>>>>I get the feeling your Jeep is spinning over normally but just isn't
>>>>starting, is that correct?
>>>>
>>>>If it is try turning on the engine like you are going to start it but
>>>>don't turn to the start position, do you hear a motor noise coming from
>>>>the back? You should be hearing the fuel pump for a few seconds after
>>>>you turn the ignition on, then it should stop when the fuel pressure
>>>>builds up.
>>>>
>>>>Assuming you hear the fuel pump then try taking a spark plug wire loose
>>>>and holding it a half inch or so from the engine (insulated pliers are a
>>>>really good idea for this!), and have someone spin the engine over. I
>>>>suspect you won't see a spark, but you should see a nice fat blue one.
>>>>
>>>>If all that is so (no spark) your next job is to find out why. Others
>>>>here have a lot more experience in troubleshooting these systems then I
>>>>do, but one thing I would do is check all the connections and make sure
>>>>everything on the ignition system is securely plugged in.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>>
>>>>GG wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another
>>>>>car? I
>>>>>tried it and it didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Giuseppe.
>>>>>97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
>>>>>
>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first
>>>>>>glance. More info! Get a multitester and check?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Help!!!!!!
Yes, but he said "after a couple of tries", it may be that the couple of
tries caused enough vibration to get the bad part functioning again.
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> Nope, his starts with a push.
>
> Mike
>
> reconair wrote:
>
>>Crankshaft Position Sensor!!!
>>"GG" <genmail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:KLzfg.2780$EF1.214942@news20.bellglobal.com ...
>>
>>>Don't worry! I don't know that much :)
>>>Yes it is spinning over normally but it doesn't start.
>>>
>>>The fuel pump is going and it does look like I'm not getting any spark!
>>>
>>>Giuseppe.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Aatfg.11675$Qg.10791@tornado.southeast.rr. com...
>>>
>>>>Key question, when you try to start it and it won't start does it seem
>>>>like it's spinning over normally or does it sound slow?
>>>>
>>>>I don't know how much you know about cars so please don't think I'm being
>>>>insulting but lets get to the basics here.
>>>>
>>>>You have to have three things for the Jeep to start, fuel in the right
>>>>amount at the right time, spark that's strong enough and at the right
>>>>time, and a starter spinning the engine over fast enough for it to start.
>>>>
>>>>If any one of those isn't right the car is either going to give you a
>>>>hard time starting or is going to fail to start at all.
>>>>
>>>>I get the feeling your Jeep is spinning over normally but just isn't
>>>>starting, is that correct?
>>>>
>>>>If it is try turning on the engine like you are going to start it but
>>>>don't turn to the start position, do you hear a motor noise coming from
>>>>the back? You should be hearing the fuel pump for a few seconds after
>>>>you turn the ignition on, then it should stop when the fuel pressure
>>>>builds up.
>>>>
>>>>Assuming you hear the fuel pump then try taking a spark plug wire loose
>>>>and holding it a half inch or so from the engine (insulated pliers are a
>>>>really good idea for this!), and have someone spin the engine over. I
>>>>suspect you won't see a spark, but you should see a nice fat blue one.
>>>>
>>>>If all that is so (no spark) your next job is to find out why. Others
>>>>here have a lot more experience in troubleshooting these systems then I
>>>>do, but one thing I would do is check all the connections and make sure
>>>>everything on the ignition system is securely plugged in.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>>
>>>>GG wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another
>>>>>car? I
>>>>>tried it and it didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Giuseppe.
>>>>>97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
>>>>>
>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first
>>>>>>glance. More info! Get a multitester and check?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
tries caused enough vibration to get the bad part functioning again.
Jeff DeWitt
Mike Romain wrote:
> Nope, his starts with a push.
>
> Mike
>
> reconair wrote:
>
>>Crankshaft Position Sensor!!!
>>"GG" <genmail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:KLzfg.2780$EF1.214942@news20.bellglobal.com ...
>>
>>>Don't worry! I don't know that much :)
>>>Yes it is spinning over normally but it doesn't start.
>>>
>>>The fuel pump is going and it does look like I'm not getting any spark!
>>>
>>>Giuseppe.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Aatfg.11675$Qg.10791@tornado.southeast.rr. com...
>>>
>>>>Key question, when you try to start it and it won't start does it seem
>>>>like it's spinning over normally or does it sound slow?
>>>>
>>>>I don't know how much you know about cars so please don't think I'm being
>>>>insulting but lets get to the basics here.
>>>>
>>>>You have to have three things for the Jeep to start, fuel in the right
>>>>amount at the right time, spark that's strong enough and at the right
>>>>time, and a starter spinning the engine over fast enough for it to start.
>>>>
>>>>If any one of those isn't right the car is either going to give you a
>>>>hard time starting or is going to fail to start at all.
>>>>
>>>>I get the feeling your Jeep is spinning over normally but just isn't
>>>>starting, is that correct?
>>>>
>>>>If it is try turning on the engine like you are going to start it but
>>>>don't turn to the start position, do you hear a motor noise coming from
>>>>the back? You should be hearing the fuel pump for a few seconds after
>>>>you turn the ignition on, then it should stop when the fuel pressure
>>>>builds up.
>>>>
>>>>Assuming you hear the fuel pump then try taking a spark plug wire loose
>>>>and holding it a half inch or so from the engine (insulated pliers are a
>>>>really good idea for this!), and have someone spin the engine over. I
>>>>suspect you won't see a spark, but you should see a nice fat blue one.
>>>>
>>>>If all that is so (no spark) your next job is to find out why. Others
>>>>here have a lot more experience in troubleshooting these systems then I
>>>>do, but one thing I would do is check all the connections and make sure
>>>>everything on the ignition system is securely plugged in.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>>
>>>>GG wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another
>>>>>car? I
>>>>>tried it and it didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Giuseppe.
>>>>>97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
>>>>>
>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first
>>>>>>glance. More info! Get a multitester and check?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Help!!!!!!
It would help if you would leave the old text in place when you are
posting. This isn't a chat room. And when posting, try posting more
than one or two lines.
When you boost it, does the engine turn over full speed?
Does the engine fire at ALL when it is turning over full speed?
I still go for ignition, tied to the CPS, but not getting enough detail
from you to rule out fuel problems.
If you turn the key on but not to start, can you hear the fuel pump?
What DOES display when you turn the key on, off, on, off, on and then
stop?
If you get it running, does it run really really well, or does it seem
to have no power? Or does it run at full speed but stumble and miss a
lot?
GG proclaimed:
> If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another car? I
> tried it and it didn't.
>
> Giuseppe.
> 97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first glance.
>>More info! Get a multitester and check?
>>
>>Troy
>>
>
>
>
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Help!!!!!!
It would help if you would leave the old text in place when you are
posting. This isn't a chat room. And when posting, try posting more
than one or two lines.
When you boost it, does the engine turn over full speed?
Does the engine fire at ALL when it is turning over full speed?
I still go for ignition, tied to the CPS, but not getting enough detail
from you to rule out fuel problems.
If you turn the key on but not to start, can you hear the fuel pump?
What DOES display when you turn the key on, off, on, off, on and then
stop?
If you get it running, does it run really really well, or does it seem
to have no power? Or does it run at full speed but stumble and miss a
lot?
GG proclaimed:
> If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another car? I
> tried it and it didn't.
>
> Giuseppe.
> 97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first glance.
>>More info! Get a multitester and check?
>>
>>Troy
>>
>
>
>