Help!!!!!!
#11
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Re: Help!!!!!!
Ah so you pushstarted it then? I'm not sure from this:
>I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>tries I jump started it.
If the charging system is good then the battery may hold a charge shortly,
so you could crank it after running it a bit... If you had a digital
multitester you could have you jeep on, then turn it off and watch the
voltage drop from the battery, although if you check right after turning it
off the battery will of course lose a little bit... I'd check it an hour
after you turned it off.
I've seen people just connect the jumpers to the batteries and try to crank
it that instant. I've found that if you connect them and let the other car
charge the battery for a few minutes before you start cranking it would
work... However all this is only if it's the battery is dying. Check the
terminals for crud also, I was working in a garage and we towed some guy's
car and when he came to pick it up it wouldn't crank... We were about to
sell him a used battery but then someone else took the cables off and
cleaned it all and then it cranked right up.
Troy
>I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>tries I jump started it.
If the charging system is good then the battery may hold a charge shortly,
so you could crank it after running it a bit... If you had a digital
multitester you could have you jeep on, then turn it off and watch the
voltage drop from the battery, although if you check right after turning it
off the battery will of course lose a little bit... I'd check it an hour
after you turned it off.
I've seen people just connect the jumpers to the batteries and try to crank
it that instant. I've found that if you connect them and let the other car
charge the battery for a few minutes before you start cranking it would
work... However all this is only if it's the battery is dying. Check the
terminals for crud also, I was working in a garage and we towed some guy's
car and when he came to pick it up it wouldn't crank... We were about to
sell him a used battery but then someone else took the cables off and
cleaned it all and then it cranked right up.
Troy
#12
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Re: Help!!!!!!
Ah so you pushstarted it then? I'm not sure from this:
>I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>tries I jump started it.
If the charging system is good then the battery may hold a charge shortly,
so you could crank it after running it a bit... If you had a digital
multitester you could have you jeep on, then turn it off and watch the
voltage drop from the battery, although if you check right after turning it
off the battery will of course lose a little bit... I'd check it an hour
after you turned it off.
I've seen people just connect the jumpers to the batteries and try to crank
it that instant. I've found that if you connect them and let the other car
charge the battery for a few minutes before you start cranking it would
work... However all this is only if it's the battery is dying. Check the
terminals for crud also, I was working in a garage and we towed some guy's
car and when he came to pick it up it wouldn't crank... We were about to
sell him a used battery but then someone else took the cables off and
cleaned it all and then it cranked right up.
Troy
>I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>tries I jump started it.
If the charging system is good then the battery may hold a charge shortly,
so you could crank it after running it a bit... If you had a digital
multitester you could have you jeep on, then turn it off and watch the
voltage drop from the battery, although if you check right after turning it
off the battery will of course lose a little bit... I'd check it an hour
after you turned it off.
I've seen people just connect the jumpers to the batteries and try to crank
it that instant. I've found that if you connect them and let the other car
charge the battery for a few minutes before you start cranking it would
work... However all this is only if it's the battery is dying. Check the
terminals for crud also, I was working in a garage and we towed some guy's
car and when he came to pick it up it wouldn't crank... We were about to
sell him a used battery but then someone else took the cables off and
cleaned it all and then it cranked right up.
Troy
#13
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Re: Help!!!!!!
Ah so you pushstarted it then? I'm not sure from this:
>I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>tries I jump started it.
If the charging system is good then the battery may hold a charge shortly,
so you could crank it after running it a bit... If you had a digital
multitester you could have you jeep on, then turn it off and watch the
voltage drop from the battery, although if you check right after turning it
off the battery will of course lose a little bit... I'd check it an hour
after you turned it off.
I've seen people just connect the jumpers to the batteries and try to crank
it that instant. I've found that if you connect them and let the other car
charge the battery for a few minutes before you start cranking it would
work... However all this is only if it's the battery is dying. Check the
terminals for crud also, I was working in a garage and we towed some guy's
car and when he came to pick it up it wouldn't crank... We were about to
sell him a used battery but then someone else took the cables off and
cleaned it all and then it cranked right up.
Troy
>I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>tries I jump started it.
If the charging system is good then the battery may hold a charge shortly,
so you could crank it after running it a bit... If you had a digital
multitester you could have you jeep on, then turn it off and watch the
voltage drop from the battery, although if you check right after turning it
off the battery will of course lose a little bit... I'd check it an hour
after you turned it off.
I've seen people just connect the jumpers to the batteries and try to crank
it that instant. I've found that if you connect them and let the other car
charge the battery for a few minutes before you start cranking it would
work... However all this is only if it's the battery is dying. Check the
terminals for crud also, I was working in a garage and we towed some guy's
car and when he came to pick it up it wouldn't crank... We were about to
sell him a used battery but then someone else took the cables off and
cleaned it all and then it cranked right up.
Troy
#14
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Re: Help!!!!!!
It is a 4L 6Cyl, it is a 97 model. I did try the key thing to read the
codes (ON-OFF-ON-OFF-ON) several times but they don't come up.
Any idea why?
Yes once it is running it runs normally and there is no engine light on.
Giuseppe.
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:b5sfg.11666$Qg.8645@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> It sounds like your starting system is OK, you have another problem,
> almost certainly in the ignition system.
>
> What is your Jeep? Something modern with electronic ignition and fuel
> injection or an oldie with a conventional ignition and a carburetor?
>
> Does it run normally once it is running? Check engine light? Anything
> else strange?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> GG wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I need your help... my jeep doesn't start...
>> Yesterday after work my Jeep didn't want to hear about starting... when I
>> turn the key the thing (sorry I'm not much of a mechanic) starts turning
>> but it doesn't start.
>> I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>> tries I jump started it.
>> I drove home and once I got in the driveway I turned it off and I tried
>> restarting about 8 times and every single time it started first shot.
>> Tonight (~6 hours later) I tried starting it again and it didn't go... I
>> tried boosting it and nothing... again the "thing" turns fine it seems
>> like I have a lot of power coming from the battery but nothing.
>>
>> Any ideas what it could be? Or where I should look? If you can forward
>> me any diagram of the starting system it would be very much appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Giuseppe.
codes (ON-OFF-ON-OFF-ON) several times but they don't come up.
Any idea why?
Yes once it is running it runs normally and there is no engine light on.
Giuseppe.
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:b5sfg.11666$Qg.8645@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> It sounds like your starting system is OK, you have another problem,
> almost certainly in the ignition system.
>
> What is your Jeep? Something modern with electronic ignition and fuel
> injection or an oldie with a conventional ignition and a carburetor?
>
> Does it run normally once it is running? Check engine light? Anything
> else strange?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> GG wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I need your help... my jeep doesn't start...
>> Yesterday after work my Jeep didn't want to hear about starting... when I
>> turn the key the thing (sorry I'm not much of a mechanic) starts turning
>> but it doesn't start.
>> I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>> tries I jump started it.
>> I drove home and once I got in the driveway I turned it off and I tried
>> restarting about 8 times and every single time it started first shot.
>> Tonight (~6 hours later) I tried starting it again and it didn't go... I
>> tried boosting it and nothing... again the "thing" turns fine it seems
>> like I have a lot of power coming from the battery but nothing.
>>
>> Any ideas what it could be? Or where I should look? If you can forward
>> me any diagram of the starting system it would be very much appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Giuseppe.
#15
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Re: Help!!!!!!
It is a 4L 6Cyl, it is a 97 model. I did try the key thing to read the
codes (ON-OFF-ON-OFF-ON) several times but they don't come up.
Any idea why?
Yes once it is running it runs normally and there is no engine light on.
Giuseppe.
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:b5sfg.11666$Qg.8645@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> It sounds like your starting system is OK, you have another problem,
> almost certainly in the ignition system.
>
> What is your Jeep? Something modern with electronic ignition and fuel
> injection or an oldie with a conventional ignition and a carburetor?
>
> Does it run normally once it is running? Check engine light? Anything
> else strange?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> GG wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I need your help... my jeep doesn't start...
>> Yesterday after work my Jeep didn't want to hear about starting... when I
>> turn the key the thing (sorry I'm not much of a mechanic) starts turning
>> but it doesn't start.
>> I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>> tries I jump started it.
>> I drove home and once I got in the driveway I turned it off and I tried
>> restarting about 8 times and every single time it started first shot.
>> Tonight (~6 hours later) I tried starting it again and it didn't go... I
>> tried boosting it and nothing... again the "thing" turns fine it seems
>> like I have a lot of power coming from the battery but nothing.
>>
>> Any ideas what it could be? Or where I should look? If you can forward
>> me any diagram of the starting system it would be very much appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Giuseppe.
codes (ON-OFF-ON-OFF-ON) several times but they don't come up.
Any idea why?
Yes once it is running it runs normally and there is no engine light on.
Giuseppe.
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:b5sfg.11666$Qg.8645@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> It sounds like your starting system is OK, you have another problem,
> almost certainly in the ignition system.
>
> What is your Jeep? Something modern with electronic ignition and fuel
> injection or an oldie with a conventional ignition and a carburetor?
>
> Does it run normally once it is running? Check engine light? Anything
> else strange?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> GG wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I need your help... my jeep doesn't start...
>> Yesterday after work my Jeep didn't want to hear about starting... when I
>> turn the key the thing (sorry I'm not much of a mechanic) starts turning
>> but it doesn't start.
>> I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>> tries I jump started it.
>> I drove home and once I got in the driveway I turned it off and I tried
>> restarting about 8 times and every single time it started first shot.
>> Tonight (~6 hours later) I tried starting it again and it didn't go... I
>> tried boosting it and nothing... again the "thing" turns fine it seems
>> like I have a lot of power coming from the battery but nothing.
>>
>> Any ideas what it could be? Or where I should look? If you can forward
>> me any diagram of the starting system it would be very much appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Giuseppe.
#16
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Re: Help!!!!!!
It is a 4L 6Cyl, it is a 97 model. I did try the key thing to read the
codes (ON-OFF-ON-OFF-ON) several times but they don't come up.
Any idea why?
Yes once it is running it runs normally and there is no engine light on.
Giuseppe.
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:b5sfg.11666$Qg.8645@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> It sounds like your starting system is OK, you have another problem,
> almost certainly in the ignition system.
>
> What is your Jeep? Something modern with electronic ignition and fuel
> injection or an oldie with a conventional ignition and a carburetor?
>
> Does it run normally once it is running? Check engine light? Anything
> else strange?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> GG wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I need your help... my jeep doesn't start...
>> Yesterday after work my Jeep didn't want to hear about starting... when I
>> turn the key the thing (sorry I'm not much of a mechanic) starts turning
>> but it doesn't start.
>> I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>> tries I jump started it.
>> I drove home and once I got in the driveway I turned it off and I tried
>> restarting about 8 times and every single time it started first shot.
>> Tonight (~6 hours later) I tried starting it again and it didn't go... I
>> tried boosting it and nothing... again the "thing" turns fine it seems
>> like I have a lot of power coming from the battery but nothing.
>>
>> Any ideas what it could be? Or where I should look? If you can forward
>> me any diagram of the starting system it would be very much appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Giuseppe.
codes (ON-OFF-ON-OFF-ON) several times but they don't come up.
Any idea why?
Yes once it is running it runs normally and there is no engine light on.
Giuseppe.
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:b5sfg.11666$Qg.8645@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> It sounds like your starting system is OK, you have another problem,
> almost certainly in the ignition system.
>
> What is your Jeep? Something modern with electronic ignition and fuel
> injection or an oldie with a conventional ignition and a carburetor?
>
> Does it run normally once it is running? Check engine light? Anything
> else strange?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> GG wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I need your help... my jeep doesn't start...
>> Yesterday after work my Jeep didn't want to hear about starting... when I
>> turn the key the thing (sorry I'm not much of a mechanic) starts turning
>> but it doesn't start.
>> I got a couple of friends of mine to push the jeep and after a couple of
>> tries I jump started it.
>> I drove home and once I got in the driveway I turned it off and I tried
>> restarting about 8 times and every single time it started first shot.
>> Tonight (~6 hours later) I tried starting it again and it didn't go... I
>> tried boosting it and nothing... again the "thing" turns fine it seems
>> like I have a lot of power coming from the battery but nothing.
>>
>> Any ideas what it could be? Or where I should look? If you can forward
>> me any diagram of the starting system it would be very much appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Giuseppe.
#17
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Re: Help!!!!!!
If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another car? I
tried it and it didn't.
Giuseppe.
97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
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> Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first glance.
> More info! Get a multitester and check?
>
> Troy
>
tried it and it didn't.
Giuseppe.
97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
> Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first glance.
> More info! Get a multitester and check?
>
> Troy
>
#18
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Re: Help!!!!!!
If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another car? I
tried it and it didn't.
Giuseppe.
97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
> Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first glance.
> More info! Get a multitester and check?
>
> Troy
>
tried it and it didn't.
Giuseppe.
97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
> Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first glance.
> More info! Get a multitester and check?
>
> Troy
>
#19
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Re: Help!!!!!!
If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another car? I
tried it and it didn't.
Giuseppe.
97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
> Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first glance.
> More info! Get a multitester and check?
>
> Troy
>
tried it and it didn't.
Giuseppe.
97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
> Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first glance.
> More info! Get a multitester and check?
>
> Troy
>
#20
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Re: Help!!!!!!
Key question, when you try to start it and it won't start does it seem
like it's spinning over normally or does it sound slow?
I don't know how much you know about cars so please don't think I'm
being insulting but lets get to the basics here.
You have to have three things for the Jeep to start, fuel in the right
amount at the right time, spark that's strong enough and at the right
time, and a starter spinning the engine over fast enough for it to start.
If any one of those isn't right the car is either going to give you a
hard time starting or is going to fail to start at all.
I get the feeling your Jeep is spinning over normally but just isn't
starting, is that correct?
If it is try turning on the engine like you are going to start it but
don't turn to the start position, do you hear a motor noise coming from
the back? You should be hearing the fuel pump for a few seconds after
you turn the ignition on, then it should stop when the fuel pressure
builds up.
Assuming you hear the fuel pump then try taking a spark plug wire loose
and holding it a half inch or so from the engine (insulated pliers are a
really good idea for this!), and have someone spin the engine over. I
suspect you won't see a spark, but you should see a nice fat blue one.
If all that is so (no spark) your next job is to find out why. Others
here have a lot more experience in troubleshooting these systems then I
do, but one thing I would do is check all the connections and make sure
everything on the ignition system is securely plugged in.
Jeff DeWitt
GG wrote:
> If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another car? I
> tried it and it didn't.
>
> Giuseppe.
> 97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first glance.
>>More info! Get a multitester and check?
>>
>>Troy
>>
>
>
>
like it's spinning over normally or does it sound slow?
I don't know how much you know about cars so please don't think I'm
being insulting but lets get to the basics here.
You have to have three things for the Jeep to start, fuel in the right
amount at the right time, spark that's strong enough and at the right
time, and a starter spinning the engine over fast enough for it to start.
If any one of those isn't right the car is either going to give you a
hard time starting or is going to fail to start at all.
I get the feeling your Jeep is spinning over normally but just isn't
starting, is that correct?
If it is try turning on the engine like you are going to start it but
don't turn to the start position, do you hear a motor noise coming from
the back? You should be hearing the fuel pump for a few seconds after
you turn the ignition on, then it should stop when the fuel pressure
builds up.
Assuming you hear the fuel pump then try taking a spark plug wire loose
and holding it a half inch or so from the engine (insulated pliers are a
really good idea for this!), and have someone spin the engine over. I
suspect you won't see a spark, but you should see a nice fat blue one.
If all that is so (no spark) your next job is to find out why. Others
here have a lot more experience in troubleshooting these systems then I
do, but one thing I would do is check all the connections and make sure
everything on the ignition system is securely plugged in.
Jeff DeWitt
GG wrote:
> If it is the battery shouldn't it start when I boost it with another car? I
> tried it and it didn't.
>
> Giuseppe.
> 97TJ, 4L, 6CYL
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:-tOdnU5dkuiN0-PZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>Sounds like yer battery is dying slowly, but that's just at first glance.
>>More info! Get a multitester and check?
>>
>>Troy
>>
>
>
>