Hard to start...
06-17-2006, 10:51 AM
#41
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Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
body.
When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
place.
Mike
Lon wrote:
>
> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>
> Mike Romain proclaimed:
> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
> > cleaning them is dramatic.
> >
> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring at
> > 650 rpm.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >
> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
> >>
> >>Seahag
> >>
> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
> >>>starts normally.
> >>>
> >>>Seahag
> >>>
> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
> >>>>few seconds.
> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
> >>>>If it fires
> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
> >>>>likely culprit.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
> >>>>>lately.
> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
> >>>>>last
> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
> >>>>>his
> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
> >>>>>Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Seahag
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
> >>>
> >>>
and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
body.
When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
place.
Mike
Lon wrote:
>
> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>
> Mike Romain proclaimed:
> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
> > cleaning them is dramatic.
> >
> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring at
> > 650 rpm.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >
> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
> >>
> >>Seahag
> >>
> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
> >>>starts normally.
> >>>
> >>>Seahag
> >>>
> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
> >>>>few seconds.
> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
> >>>>If it fires
> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
> >>>>likely culprit.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
> >>>>>lately.
> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
> >>>>>last
> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
> >>>>>his
> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
> >>>>>Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Seahag
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
> >>>
> >>>
06-17-2006, 10:51 AM
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
body.
When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
place.
Mike
Lon wrote:
>
> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>
> Mike Romain proclaimed:
> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
> > cleaning them is dramatic.
> >
> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring at
> > 650 rpm.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >
> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
> >>
> >>Seahag
> >>
> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
> >>>starts normally.
> >>>
> >>>Seahag
> >>>
> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
> >>>>few seconds.
> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
> >>>>If it fires
> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
> >>>>likely culprit.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
> >>>>>lately.
> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
> >>>>>last
> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
> >>>>>his
> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
> >>>>>Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Seahag
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
> >>>
> >>>
and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
body.
When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
place.
Mike
Lon wrote:
>
> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>
> Mike Romain proclaimed:
> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
> > cleaning them is dramatic.
> >
> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring at
> > 650 rpm.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >
> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
> >>
> >>Seahag
> >>
> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
> >>>starts normally.
> >>>
> >>>Seahag
> >>>
> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
> >>>>few seconds.
> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
> >>>>If it fires
> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
> >>>>likely culprit.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
> >>>>>lately.
> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
> >>>>>last
> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
> >>>>>his
> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
> >>>>>Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Seahag
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
> >>>
> >>>
06-17-2006, 10:51 AM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
body.
When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
place.
Mike
Lon wrote:
>
> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>
> Mike Romain proclaimed:
> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
> > cleaning them is dramatic.
> >
> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring at
> > 650 rpm.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >
> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
> >>
> >>Seahag
> >>
> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
> >>>starts normally.
> >>>
> >>>Seahag
> >>>
> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
> >>>>few seconds.
> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
> >>>>If it fires
> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
> >>>>likely culprit.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
> >>>>>lately.
> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
> >>>>>last
> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
> >>>>>his
> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
> >>>>>Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Seahag
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
> >>>
> >>>
and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
body.
When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
place.
Mike
Lon wrote:
>
> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>
> Mike Romain proclaimed:
> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
> > cleaning them is dramatic.
> >
> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring at
> > 650 rpm.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >
> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
> >>
> >>Seahag
> >>
> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
> >>>starts normally.
> >>>
> >>>Seahag
> >>>
> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
> >>>>few seconds.
> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
> >>>>If it fires
> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
> >>>>likely culprit.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
> >>>>>lately.
> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
> >>>>>last
> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
> >>>>>his
> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
> >>>>>Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Seahag
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
> >>>
> >>>
06-17-2006, 11:07 AM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
And I just polished my nails!
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
> everything in
> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it
> sit, then hit
> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
> the throttle
> body.
>
> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
> everything in
> place.
>
> Mike
>
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body
>> to get
>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my
>> full membership
>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>> been an item on
>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0
>> if it matters.
>>
>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>> > body and the CPS
>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a
>> > lot faster.
>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can
>> > be affected by
>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>> > the effect of
>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>> >
>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>> > surely by me and it
>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>> > spray on what
>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>> > has it purring at
>> > 650 rpm.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
>> > in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
>> > view!
>> > Jan/06
>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >
>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >
>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>> >>the
>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>> >>start
>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>> >>
>> >>Seahag
>> >>
>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>> >>>she
>> >>>starts normally.
>> >>>
>> >>>Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>> >>>>for a
>> >>>>few seconds.
>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>> >>>>starter.
>> >>>>If it fires
>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>likely culprit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> >>>>>lately.
>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>last
>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>> >>>>>with
>> >>>>>his
>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Seahag
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>> >>>
>> >>>
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
> everything in
> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it
> sit, then hit
> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
> the throttle
> body.
>
> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
> everything in
> place.
>
> Mike
>
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body
>> to get
>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my
>> full membership
>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>> been an item on
>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0
>> if it matters.
>>
>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>> > body and the CPS
>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a
>> > lot faster.
>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can
>> > be affected by
>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>> > the effect of
>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>> >
>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>> > surely by me and it
>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>> > spray on what
>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>> > has it purring at
>> > 650 rpm.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
>> > in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
>> > view!
>> > Jan/06
>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >
>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >
>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>> >>the
>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>> >>start
>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>> >>
>> >>Seahag
>> >>
>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>> >>>she
>> >>>starts normally.
>> >>>
>> >>>Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>> >>>>for a
>> >>>>few seconds.
>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>> >>>>starter.
>> >>>>If it fires
>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>likely culprit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> >>>>>lately.
>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>last
>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>> >>>>>with
>> >>>>>his
>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Seahag
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>> >>>
>> >>>
06-17-2006, 11:07 AM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
And I just polished my nails!
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
> everything in
> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it
> sit, then hit
> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
> the throttle
> body.
>
> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
> everything in
> place.
>
> Mike
>
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body
>> to get
>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my
>> full membership
>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>> been an item on
>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0
>> if it matters.
>>
>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>> > body and the CPS
>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a
>> > lot faster.
>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can
>> > be affected by
>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>> > the effect of
>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>> >
>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>> > surely by me and it
>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>> > spray on what
>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>> > has it purring at
>> > 650 rpm.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
>> > in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
>> > view!
>> > Jan/06
>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >
>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >
>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>> >>the
>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>> >>start
>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>> >>
>> >>Seahag
>> >>
>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>> >>>she
>> >>>starts normally.
>> >>>
>> >>>Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>> >>>>for a
>> >>>>few seconds.
>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>> >>>>starter.
>> >>>>If it fires
>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>likely culprit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> >>>>>lately.
>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>last
>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>> >>>>>with
>> >>>>>his
>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Seahag
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>> >>>
>> >>>
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
> everything in
> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it
> sit, then hit
> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
> the throttle
> body.
>
> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
> everything in
> place.
>
> Mike
>
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body
>> to get
>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my
>> full membership
>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>> been an item on
>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0
>> if it matters.
>>
>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>> > body and the CPS
>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a
>> > lot faster.
>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can
>> > be affected by
>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>> > the effect of
>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>> >
>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>> > surely by me and it
>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>> > spray on what
>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>> > has it purring at
>> > 650 rpm.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
>> > in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
>> > view!
>> > Jan/06
>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >
>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >
>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>> >>the
>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>> >>start
>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>> >>
>> >>Seahag
>> >>
>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>> >>>she
>> >>>starts normally.
>> >>>
>> >>>Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>> >>>>for a
>> >>>>few seconds.
>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>> >>>>starter.
>> >>>>If it fires
>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>likely culprit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> >>>>>lately.
>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>last
>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>> >>>>>with
>> >>>>>his
>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Seahag
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>> >>>
>> >>>
06-17-2006, 11:07 AM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
And I just polished my nails!
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
> everything in
> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it
> sit, then hit
> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
> the throttle
> body.
>
> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
> everything in
> place.
>
> Mike
>
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body
>> to get
>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my
>> full membership
>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>> been an item on
>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0
>> if it matters.
>>
>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>> > body and the CPS
>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a
>> > lot faster.
>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can
>> > be affected by
>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>> > the effect of
>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>> >
>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>> > surely by me and it
>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>> > spray on what
>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>> > has it purring at
>> > 650 rpm.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
>> > in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
>> > view!
>> > Jan/06
>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >
>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >
>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>> >>the
>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>> >>start
>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>> >>
>> >>Seahag
>> >>
>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>> >>>she
>> >>>starts normally.
>> >>>
>> >>>Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>> >>>>for a
>> >>>>few seconds.
>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>> >>>>starter.
>> >>>>If it fires
>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>likely culprit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> >>>>>lately.
>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>last
>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>> >>>>>with
>> >>>>>his
>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Seahag
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>> >>>
>> >>>
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
> everything in
> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it
> sit, then hit
> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
> the throttle
> body.
>
> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
> everything in
> place.
>
> Mike
>
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body
>> to get
>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my
>> full membership
>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>> been an item on
>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0
>> if it matters.
>>
>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>> > body and the CPS
>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a
>> > lot faster.
>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can
>> > be affected by
>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>> > the effect of
>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>> >
>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>> > surely by me and it
>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>> > spray on what
>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>> > has it purring at
>> > 650 rpm.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
>> > in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
>> > view!
>> > Jan/06
>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >
>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >
>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>> >>the
>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>> >>start
>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>> >>
>> >>Seahag
>> >>
>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>> >>>she
>> >>>starts normally.
>> >>>
>> >>>Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>> >>>>for a
>> >>>>few seconds.
>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>> >>>>starter.
>> >>>>If it fires
>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>likely culprit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> >>>>>lately.
>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>last
>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>> >>>>>with
>> >>>>>his
>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Seahag
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>> >>>
>> >>>
06-17-2006, 11:27 AM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
Thanks for the link, Bill. It's made up my mind for me to
stick with the dealer for the maintenence.
Seahag
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote:
> Have over thirty thousand on your spark plugs:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> lately.
>> I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>> last
>> 3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>> his
>> '97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Seahag
stick with the dealer for the maintenence.
Seahag
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote:
> Have over thirty thousand on your spark plugs:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> lately.
>> I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>> last
>> 3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>> his
>> '97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Seahag
06-17-2006, 11:27 AM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
Thanks for the link, Bill. It's made up my mind for me to
stick with the dealer for the maintenence.
Seahag
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote:
> Have over thirty thousand on your spark plugs:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> lately.
>> I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>> last
>> 3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>> his
>> '97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Seahag
stick with the dealer for the maintenence.
Seahag
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote:
> Have over thirty thousand on your spark plugs:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> lately.
>> I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>> last
>> 3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>> his
>> '97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Seahag
06-17-2006, 11:27 AM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
Thanks for the link, Bill. It's made up my mind for me to
stick with the dealer for the maintenence.
Seahag
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote:
> Have over thirty thousand on your spark plugs:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> lately.
>> I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>> last
>> 3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>> his
>> '97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Seahag
stick with the dealer for the maintenence.
Seahag
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote:
> Have over thirty thousand on your spark plugs:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>> lately.
>> I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>> last
>> 3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>> his
>> '97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Seahag
06-17-2006, 11:27 AM
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
You already have him bewitched don't you?
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> And I just polished my nails!
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>> body.
>>
>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>> place.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Lon wrote:
>>>
>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>>>
>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>> >
>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>> > at
>>> > 650 rpm.
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>> >
>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>> >>
>>> >>Seahag
>>> >>
>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>> >>>starts normally.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Seahag
>>> >>>
>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>> >>>>If it fires
>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>> >>>>>lately.
>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>> >>>>>last
>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>> >>>>>his
>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>
>
You already have him bewitched don't you?
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> And I just polished my nails!
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>> body.
>>
>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>> place.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Lon wrote:
>>>
>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>>>
>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>> >
>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>> > at
>>> > 650 rpm.
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>> >
>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>> >>
>>> >>Seahag
>>> >>
>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>> >>>starts normally.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Seahag
>>> >>>
>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>> >>>>If it fires
>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>> >>>>>lately.
>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>> >>>>>last
>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>> >>>>>his
>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>
>
