Hard to start...
06-17-2006, 11:27 AM
#51
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Re: Hard to start...
Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
You already have him bewitched don't you?
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
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> And I just polished my nails!
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>> body.
>>
>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>> place.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Lon wrote:
>>>
>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>>>
>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>> >
>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>> > at
>>> > 650 rpm.
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>> >
>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>> >>
>>> >>Seahag
>>> >>
>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>> >>>starts normally.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Seahag
>>> >>>
>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>> >>>>If it fires
>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>> >>>>>lately.
>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>> >>>>>last
>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>> >>>>>his
>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>
>
You already have him bewitched don't you?
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> And I just polished my nails!
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>> body.
>>
>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>> place.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Lon wrote:
>>>
>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>>>
>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>> >
>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>> > at
>>> > 650 rpm.
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>> >
>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>> >>
>>> >>Seahag
>>> >>
>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>> >>>starts normally.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Seahag
>>> >>>
>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>> >>>>If it fires
>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>> >>>>>lately.
>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>> >>>>>last
>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>> >>>>>his
>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>
>
06-17-2006, 11:27 AM
#52
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
You already have him bewitched don't you?
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> And I just polished my nails!
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>> body.
>>
>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>> place.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Lon wrote:
>>>
>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>>>
>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>> >
>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>> > at
>>> > 650 rpm.
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>> >
>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>> >>
>>> >>Seahag
>>> >>
>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>> >>>starts normally.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Seahag
>>> >>>
>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>> >>>>If it fires
>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>> >>>>>lately.
>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>> >>>>>last
>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>> >>>>>his
>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>
>
You already have him bewitched don't you?
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> And I just polished my nails!
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>> body.
>>
>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>> place.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Lon wrote:
>>>
>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership
>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on
>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters.
>>>
>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by
>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>> >
>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it
>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>> > at
>>> > 650 rpm.
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>> >
>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>> >>
>>> >>Seahag
>>> >>
>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>> >>>starts normally.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Seahag
>>> >>>
>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>> >>>>If it fires
>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>> >>>>>lately.
>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>> >>>>>last
>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>> >>>>>his
>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>
>
06-17-2006, 09:30 PM
#53
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most Jeep
bewitched he is is making me get bigger tires!
I'll get roundtoit...
Seahag
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>
> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> And I just polished my nails!
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
>>> everything in
>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let
>>> it sit, then hit
>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
>>> the throttle
>>> body.
>>>
>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
>>> everything in
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle
>>>> body to get
>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep
>>>> my full membership
>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>>>> been an item on
>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ
>>>> 4.0 if it matters.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>>>> > body and the CPS
>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts
>>>> > a lot faster.
>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that
>>>> > can be affected by
>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>>>> > the effect of
>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>> >
>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>>>> > surely by me and it
>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>>>> > spray on what
>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>>>> > has it purring at
>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike
>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
>>>> > tail in '00
>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>>>> > still view!
>>>> > Jan/06
>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>>>> > page)
>>>> >
>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>>>> >>the
>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>>>> >>start
>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Seahag
>>>> >>
>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>>>> >>>she
>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>>>> >>>>for a
>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>>>> >>>>starter.
>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>>>> >>>>the
>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to
>>>> >>>>>start
>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as
>>>> >>>>>in the
>>>> >>>>>last
>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>>>> >>>>>with
>>>> >>>>>his
>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>
>>
>
>
bewitched he is is making me get bigger tires!
I'll get roundtoit...
Seahag
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>
> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> And I just polished my nails!
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
>>> everything in
>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let
>>> it sit, then hit
>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
>>> the throttle
>>> body.
>>>
>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
>>> everything in
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle
>>>> body to get
>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep
>>>> my full membership
>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>>>> been an item on
>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ
>>>> 4.0 if it matters.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>>>> > body and the CPS
>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts
>>>> > a lot faster.
>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that
>>>> > can be affected by
>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>>>> > the effect of
>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>> >
>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>>>> > surely by me and it
>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>>>> > spray on what
>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>>>> > has it purring at
>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike
>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
>>>> > tail in '00
>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>>>> > still view!
>>>> > Jan/06
>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>>>> > page)
>>>> >
>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>>>> >>the
>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>>>> >>start
>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Seahag
>>>> >>
>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>>>> >>>she
>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>>>> >>>>for a
>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>>>> >>>>starter.
>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>>>> >>>>the
>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to
>>>> >>>>>start
>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as
>>>> >>>>>in the
>>>> >>>>>last
>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>>>> >>>>>with
>>>> >>>>>his
>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>
>>
>
>
06-17-2006, 09:30 PM
#54
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most Jeep
bewitched he is is making me get bigger tires!
I'll get roundtoit...
Seahag
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>
> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> And I just polished my nails!
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
>>> everything in
>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let
>>> it sit, then hit
>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
>>> the throttle
>>> body.
>>>
>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
>>> everything in
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle
>>>> body to get
>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep
>>>> my full membership
>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>>>> been an item on
>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ
>>>> 4.0 if it matters.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>>>> > body and the CPS
>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts
>>>> > a lot faster.
>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that
>>>> > can be affected by
>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>>>> > the effect of
>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>> >
>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>>>> > surely by me and it
>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>>>> > spray on what
>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>>>> > has it purring at
>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike
>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
>>>> > tail in '00
>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>>>> > still view!
>>>> > Jan/06
>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>>>> > page)
>>>> >
>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>>>> >>the
>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>>>> >>start
>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Seahag
>>>> >>
>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>>>> >>>she
>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>>>> >>>>for a
>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>>>> >>>>starter.
>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>>>> >>>>the
>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to
>>>> >>>>>start
>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as
>>>> >>>>>in the
>>>> >>>>>last
>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>>>> >>>>>with
>>>> >>>>>his
>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>
>>
>
>
bewitched he is is making me get bigger tires!
I'll get roundtoit...
Seahag
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>
> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> And I just polished my nails!
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
>>> everything in
>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let
>>> it sit, then hit
>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
>>> the throttle
>>> body.
>>>
>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
>>> everything in
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle
>>>> body to get
>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep
>>>> my full membership
>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>>>> been an item on
>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ
>>>> 4.0 if it matters.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>>>> > body and the CPS
>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts
>>>> > a lot faster.
>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that
>>>> > can be affected by
>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>>>> > the effect of
>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>> >
>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>>>> > surely by me and it
>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>>>> > spray on what
>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>>>> > has it purring at
>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike
>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
>>>> > tail in '00
>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>>>> > still view!
>>>> > Jan/06
>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>>>> > page)
>>>> >
>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>>>> >>the
>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>>>> >>start
>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Seahag
>>>> >>
>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>>>> >>>she
>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>>>> >>>>for a
>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>>>> >>>>starter.
>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>>>> >>>>the
>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to
>>>> >>>>>start
>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as
>>>> >>>>>in the
>>>> >>>>>last
>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>>>> >>>>>with
>>>> >>>>>his
>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>
>>
>
>
06-17-2006, 09:30 PM
#55
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most Jeep
bewitched he is is making me get bigger tires!
I'll get roundtoit...
Seahag
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>
> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> And I just polished my nails!
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
>>> everything in
>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let
>>> it sit, then hit
>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
>>> the throttle
>>> body.
>>>
>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
>>> everything in
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle
>>>> body to get
>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep
>>>> my full membership
>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>>>> been an item on
>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ
>>>> 4.0 if it matters.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>>>> > body and the CPS
>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts
>>>> > a lot faster.
>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that
>>>> > can be affected by
>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>>>> > the effect of
>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>> >
>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>>>> > surely by me and it
>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>>>> > spray on what
>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>>>> > has it purring at
>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike
>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
>>>> > tail in '00
>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>>>> > still view!
>>>> > Jan/06
>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>>>> > page)
>>>> >
>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>>>> >>the
>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>>>> >>start
>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Seahag
>>>> >>
>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>>>> >>>she
>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>>>> >>>>for a
>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>>>> >>>>starter.
>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>>>> >>>>the
>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to
>>>> >>>>>start
>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as
>>>> >>>>>in the
>>>> >>>>>last
>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>>>> >>>>>with
>>>> >>>>>his
>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>
>>
>
>
bewitched he is is making me get bigger tires!
I'll get roundtoit...
Seahag
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>
> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> And I just polished my nails!
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray
>>> everything in
>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let
>>> it sit, then hit
>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove
>>> the throttle
>>> body.
>>>
>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
>>> everything in
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle
>>>> body to get
>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep
>>>> my full membership
>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has
>>>> been an item on
>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ
>>>> 4.0 if it matters.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>>>> > body and the CPS
>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts
>>>> > a lot faster.
>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that
>>>> > can be affected by
>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but
>>>> > the effect of
>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>> >
>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>>>> > surely by me and it
>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast
>>>> > spray on what
>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start
>>>> > has it purring at
>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike
>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
>>>> > tail in '00
>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>>>> > still view!
>>>> > Jan/06
>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>>>> > page)
>>>> >
>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all
>>>> >>the
>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to
>>>> >>start
>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Seahag
>>>> >>
>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up
>>>> >>>she
>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting
>>>> >>>>for a
>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>>>> >>>>starter.
>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is
>>>> >>>>the
>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to
>>>> >>>>>start
>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as
>>>> >>>>>in the
>>>> >>>>>last
>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem
>>>> >>>>>with
>>>> >>>>>his
>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>
>>
>
>
06-17-2006, 10:22 PM
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
It probably only takes 10-15 minutes with a can of GumOut and an old
toothbrush..
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:4494abc8_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most Jeep bewitched he is
> is making me get bigger tires!
> I'll get roundtoit...
>
> Seahag
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>>
>> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>>
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>> And I just polished my nails!
>>>
>>> Seahag
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>>>> body.
>>>>
>>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full
>>>>> membership
>>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item
>>>>> on
>>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it
>>>>> matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected
>>>>> > by
>>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and
>>>>> > it
>>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>>>> > at
>>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike
>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Seahag
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>>>> >>>>>last
>>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>>>> >>>>>his
>>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
toothbrush..
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:4494abc8_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most Jeep bewitched he is
> is making me get bigger tires!
> I'll get roundtoit...
>
> Seahag
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>>
>> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>>
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>> And I just polished my nails!
>>>
>>> Seahag
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>>>> body.
>>>>
>>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full
>>>>> membership
>>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item
>>>>> on
>>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it
>>>>> matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected
>>>>> > by
>>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and
>>>>> > it
>>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>>>> > at
>>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike
>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Seahag
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>>>> >>>>>last
>>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>>>> >>>>>his
>>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
06-17-2006, 10:22 PM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
It probably only takes 10-15 minutes with a can of GumOut and an old
toothbrush..
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:4494abc8_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most Jeep bewitched he is
> is making me get bigger tires!
> I'll get roundtoit...
>
> Seahag
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>>
>> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>>
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>> And I just polished my nails!
>>>
>>> Seahag
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>>>> body.
>>>>
>>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full
>>>>> membership
>>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item
>>>>> on
>>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it
>>>>> matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected
>>>>> > by
>>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and
>>>>> > it
>>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>>>> > at
>>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike
>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Seahag
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>>>> >>>>>last
>>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>>>> >>>>>his
>>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
toothbrush..
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:4494abc8_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most Jeep bewitched he is
> is making me get bigger tires!
> I'll get roundtoit...
>
> Seahag
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>>
>> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>>
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>> And I just polished my nails!
>>>
>>> Seahag
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>>>> body.
>>>>
>>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full
>>>>> membership
>>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item
>>>>> on
>>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it
>>>>> matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected
>>>>> > by
>>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and
>>>>> > it
>>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>>>> > at
>>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike
>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Seahag
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>>>> >>>>>last
>>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>>>> >>>>>his
>>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
06-17-2006, 10:22 PM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
It probably only takes 10-15 minutes with a can of GumOut and an old
toothbrush..
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:4494abc8_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most Jeep bewitched he is
> is making me get bigger tires!
> I'll get roundtoit...
>
> Seahag
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>>
>> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>>
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>> And I just polished my nails!
>>>
>>> Seahag
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>>>> body.
>>>>
>>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full
>>>>> membership
>>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item
>>>>> on
>>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it
>>>>> matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected
>>>>> > by
>>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and
>>>>> > it
>>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>>>> > at
>>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike
>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Seahag
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>>>> >>>>>last
>>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>>>> >>>>>his
>>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
toothbrush..
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
news:4494abc8_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most Jeep bewitched he is
> is making me get bigger tires!
> I'll get roundtoit...
>
> Seahag
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
>>
>> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>>
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>> And I just polished my nails!
>>>
>>> Seahag
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
>>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit
>>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle
>>>> body.
>>>>
>>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get
>>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full
>>>>> membership
>>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item
>>>>> on
>>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it
>>>>> matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS
>>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster.
>>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected
>>>>> > by
>>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of
>>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and
>>>>> > it
>>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what
>>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring
>>>>> > at
>>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike
>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the
>>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start
>>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Seahag
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already
>>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she
>>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a
>>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter.
>>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the
>>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start
>>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the
>>>>> >>>>>last
>>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with
>>>>> >>>>>his
>>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives.
>>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
06-18-2006, 12:26 AM
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
OK, I'll go get some goo Monday and do it. Looks like fun!
Seahag
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> It probably only takes 10-15 minutes with a can of GumOut
> and an old toothbrush..
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
>
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most
>> Jeep bewitched he is is making me get bigger tires!
>> I'll get roundtoit...
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>>> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you
>>> supervise.
>>>
>>> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>>> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>> And I just polished my nails!
>>>>
>>>> Seahag
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and
>>>>> spray everything in
>>>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let
>>>>> it sit, then hit
>>>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to
>>>>> remove the throttle
>>>>> body.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
>>>>> everything in
>>>>> place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle
>>>>>> body to get
>>>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep
>>>>>> my full membership
>>>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this
>>>>>> has been an item on
>>>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ
>>>>>> 4.0 if it matters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>>>>>> > body and the CPS
>>>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0
>>>>>> > starts a lot faster.
>>>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that
>>>>>> > can be affected by
>>>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean,
>>>>>> > but the effect of
>>>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>>>>>> > surely by me and it
>>>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A
>>>>>> > fast spray on what
>>>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next
>>>>>> > start has it purring at
>>>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
>>>>>> > tail in '00
>>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>>>>>> > still view!
>>>>>> > Jan/06
>>>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>>>>>> > page)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until
>>>>>> >>all the
>>>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried
>>>>>> >>to start
>>>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Seahag
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've
>>>>>> >>>already
>>>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy
>>>>>> >>>start-up she
>>>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without
>>>>>> >>>>starting for a
>>>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>>>>>> >>>>starter.
>>>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump
>>>>>> >>>>is the
>>>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to
>>>>>> >>>>>start
>>>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as
>>>>>> >>>>>in the
>>>>>> >>>>>last
>>>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same
>>>>>> >>>>>problem with
>>>>>> >>>>>his
>>>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas
>>>>>> >>>>>additives.
>>>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Seahag
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> It probably only takes 10-15 minutes with a can of GumOut
> and an old toothbrush..
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
>
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most
>> Jeep bewitched he is is making me get bigger tires!
>> I'll get roundtoit...
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>>> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you
>>> supervise.
>>>
>>> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>>> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>> And I just polished my nails!
>>>>
>>>> Seahag
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and
>>>>> spray everything in
>>>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let
>>>>> it sit, then hit
>>>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to
>>>>> remove the throttle
>>>>> body.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
>>>>> everything in
>>>>> place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle
>>>>>> body to get
>>>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep
>>>>>> my full membership
>>>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this
>>>>>> has been an item on
>>>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ
>>>>>> 4.0 if it matters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>>>>>> > body and the CPS
>>>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0
>>>>>> > starts a lot faster.
>>>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that
>>>>>> > can be affected by
>>>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean,
>>>>>> > but the effect of
>>>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>>>>>> > surely by me and it
>>>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A
>>>>>> > fast spray on what
>>>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next
>>>>>> > start has it purring at
>>>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
>>>>>> > tail in '00
>>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>>>>>> > still view!
>>>>>> > Jan/06
>>>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>>>>>> > page)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until
>>>>>> >>all the
>>>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried
>>>>>> >>to start
>>>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Seahag
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've
>>>>>> >>>already
>>>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy
>>>>>> >>>start-up she
>>>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without
>>>>>> >>>>starting for a
>>>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>>>>>> >>>>starter.
>>>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump
>>>>>> >>>>is the
>>>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to
>>>>>> >>>>>start
>>>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as
>>>>>> >>>>>in the
>>>>>> >>>>>last
>>>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same
>>>>>> >>>>>problem with
>>>>>> >>>>>his
>>>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas
>>>>>> >>>>>additives.
>>>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
06-18-2006, 12:26 AM
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hard to start...
OK, I'll go get some goo Monday and do it. Looks like fun!
Seahag
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> It probably only takes 10-15 minutes with a can of GumOut
> and an old toothbrush..
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
>
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most
>> Jeep bewitched he is is making me get bigger tires!
>> I'll get roundtoit...
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>>> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you
>>> supervise.
>>>
>>> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>>> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>> And I just polished my nails!
>>>>
>>>> Seahag
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and
>>>>> spray everything in
>>>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let
>>>>> it sit, then hit
>>>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to
>>>>> remove the throttle
>>>>> body.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
>>>>> everything in
>>>>> place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle
>>>>>> body to get
>>>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep
>>>>>> my full membership
>>>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this
>>>>>> has been an item on
>>>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ
>>>>>> 4.0 if it matters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>>>>>> > body and the CPS
>>>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0
>>>>>> > starts a lot faster.
>>>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that
>>>>>> > can be affected by
>>>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean,
>>>>>> > but the effect of
>>>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>>>>>> > surely by me and it
>>>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A
>>>>>> > fast spray on what
>>>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next
>>>>>> > start has it purring at
>>>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
>>>>>> > tail in '00
>>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>>>>>> > still view!
>>>>>> > Jan/06
>>>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>>>>>> > page)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until
>>>>>> >>all the
>>>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried
>>>>>> >>to start
>>>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Seahag
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've
>>>>>> >>>already
>>>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy
>>>>>> >>>start-up she
>>>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without
>>>>>> >>>>starting for a
>>>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>>>>>> >>>>starter.
>>>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump
>>>>>> >>>>is the
>>>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to
>>>>>> >>>>>start
>>>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as
>>>>>> >>>>>in the
>>>>>> >>>>>last
>>>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same
>>>>>> >>>>>problem with
>>>>>> >>>>>his
>>>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas
>>>>>> >>>>>additives.
>>>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Seahag
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> It probably only takes 10-15 minutes with a can of GumOut
> and an old toothbrush..
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
>
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>> Hahaha, he's built his share of cars. About the most
>> Jeep bewitched he is is making me get bigger tires!
>> I'll get roundtoit...
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>>> Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you
>>> supervise.
>>>
>>> You already have him bewitched don't you?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>>> news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>> And I just polished my nails!
>>>>
>>>> Seahag
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and
>>>>> spray everything in
>>>>> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let
>>>>> it sit, then hit
>>>>> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to
>>>>> remove the throttle
>>>>> body.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave
>>>>> everything in
>>>>> place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Lon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle
>>>>>> body to get
>>>>>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep
>>>>>> my full membership
>>>>>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this
>>>>>> has been an item on
>>>>>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ
>>>>>> 4.0 if it matters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>>>>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle
>>>>>> > body and the CPS
>>>>>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0
>>>>>> > starts a lot faster.
>>>>>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that
>>>>>> > can be affected by
>>>>>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean,
>>>>>> > but the effect of
>>>>>> > cleaning them is dramatic.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but
>>>>>> > surely by me and it
>>>>>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A
>>>>>> > fast spray on what
>>>>>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next
>>>>>> > start has it purring at
>>>>>> > 650 rpm.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
>>>>>> > tail in '00
>>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>>>>>> > still view!
>>>>>> > Jan/06
>>>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>>>>>> > page)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Seahag wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until
>>>>>> >>all the
>>>>>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried
>>>>>> >>to start
>>>>>> >>it. I got the same laggy start.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Seahag
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've
>>>>>> >>>already
>>>>>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy
>>>>>> >>>start-up she
>>>>>> >>>starts normally.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>Seahag
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without
>>>>>> >>>>starting for a
>>>>>> >>>>few seconds.
>>>>>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the
>>>>>> >>>>starter.
>>>>>> >>>>If it fires
>>>>>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump
>>>>>> >>>>is the
>>>>>> >>>>likely culprit.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to
>>>>>> >>>>>start
>>>>>> >>>>>lately.
>>>>>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as
>>>>>> >>>>>in the
>>>>>> >>>>>last
>>>>>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same
>>>>>> >>>>>problem with
>>>>>> >>>>>his
>>>>>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas
>>>>>> >>>>>additives.
>>>>>> >>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>Seahag
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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