Handgun storage in a TJ?
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Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
In <Pine.NEB.4.58.0404051019430.13664@panix2.panix.co m> Lee Ayrton
wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2004, Handywired wrote:
>
>> I keep a loaded handgun in my TJ. At present I use my factory
>> locking center console. I'd like to get something a little more
>> impregnable. What should I get? This needs to be a replacement for
>> the center
>
> A neutrally-worded, calm request for information, one that resulted in
> dozens of constructive, highly informative and carefully considered
> posts of international interest that can be pretty much summed up as
> "did to!" "does not!" "bastard!" "-------!" [lather, rinse, repeat]
>
> Good thing you didn't ask about performing circumcisions, abortions or
> gay marriages in a Jeep, eh?
They started it.
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wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2004, Handywired wrote:
>
>> I keep a loaded handgun in my TJ. At present I use my factory
>> locking center console. I'd like to get something a little more
>> impregnable. What should I get? This needs to be a replacement for
>> the center
>
> A neutrally-worded, calm request for information, one that resulted in
> dozens of constructive, highly informative and carefully considered
> posts of international interest that can be pretty much summed up as
> "did to!" "does not!" "bastard!" "-------!" [lather, rinse, repeat]
>
> Good thing you didn't ask about performing circumcisions, abortions or
> gay marriages in a Jeep, eh?
They started it.
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#272
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Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
In <Pine.NEB.4.58.0404051019430.13664@panix2.panix.co m> Lee Ayrton
wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2004, Handywired wrote:
>
>> I keep a loaded handgun in my TJ. At present I use my factory
>> locking center console. I'd like to get something a little more
>> impregnable. What should I get? This needs to be a replacement for
>> the center
>
> A neutrally-worded, calm request for information, one that resulted in
> dozens of constructive, highly informative and carefully considered
> posts of international interest that can be pretty much summed up as
> "did to!" "does not!" "bastard!" "-------!" [lather, rinse, repeat]
>
> Good thing you didn't ask about performing circumcisions, abortions or
> gay marriages in a Jeep, eh?
They started it.
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wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2004, Handywired wrote:
>
>> I keep a loaded handgun in my TJ. At present I use my factory
>> locking center console. I'd like to get something a little more
>> impregnable. What should I get? This needs to be a replacement for
>> the center
>
> A neutrally-worded, calm request for information, one that resulted in
> dozens of constructive, highly informative and carefully considered
> posts of international interest that can be pretty much summed up as
> "did to!" "does not!" "bastard!" "-------!" [lather, rinse, repeat]
>
> Good thing you didn't ask about performing circumcisions, abortions or
> gay marriages in a Jeep, eh?
They started it.
----------------------------------------------------
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#273
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Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
In <Pine.NEB.4.58.0404051019430.13664@panix2.panix.co m> Lee Ayrton
wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2004, Handywired wrote:
>
>> I keep a loaded handgun in my TJ. At present I use my factory
>> locking center console. I'd like to get something a little more
>> impregnable. What should I get? This needs to be a replacement for
>> the center
>
> A neutrally-worded, calm request for information, one that resulted in
> dozens of constructive, highly informative and carefully considered
> posts of international interest that can be pretty much summed up as
> "did to!" "does not!" "bastard!" "-------!" [lather, rinse, repeat]
>
> Good thing you didn't ask about performing circumcisions, abortions or
> gay marriages in a Jeep, eh?
They started it.
----------------------------------------------------
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wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2004, Handywired wrote:
>
>> I keep a loaded handgun in my TJ. At present I use my factory
>> locking center console. I'd like to get something a little more
>> impregnable. What should I get? This needs to be a replacement for
>> the center
>
> A neutrally-worded, calm request for information, one that resulted in
> dozens of constructive, highly informative and carefully considered
> posts of international interest that can be pretty much summed up as
> "did to!" "does not!" "bastard!" "-------!" [lather, rinse, repeat]
>
> Good thing you didn't ask about performing circumcisions, abortions or
> gay marriages in a Jeep, eh?
They started it.
----------------------------------------------------
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#274
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Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
Bill categorizes everyone, but it only lasts until your next post.
Joseph P wrote:
> I know what Nathan was saying, there Bill. I also know there are
> irresponsible people around here who have done it...trust me, the deer
> had no chance to try to run away. I repeat you are a closed minded
> individual who has no business trying to categorize me based upon a
> single statement. And I maintain the whole damn aircraft, thanks.
>
> http://home.nc.rr.com/jpribe/photo.htm
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Joseph P wrote:
> I know what Nathan was saying, there Bill. I also know there are
> irresponsible people around here who have done it...trust me, the deer
> had no chance to try to run away. I repeat you are a closed minded
> individual who has no business trying to categorize me based upon a
> single statement. And I maintain the whole damn aircraft, thanks.
>
> http://home.nc.rr.com/jpribe/photo.htm
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#275
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Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
Bill categorizes everyone, but it only lasts until your next post.
Joseph P wrote:
> I know what Nathan was saying, there Bill. I also know there are
> irresponsible people around here who have done it...trust me, the deer
> had no chance to try to run away. I repeat you are a closed minded
> individual who has no business trying to categorize me based upon a
> single statement. And I maintain the whole damn aircraft, thanks.
>
> http://home.nc.rr.com/jpribe/photo.htm
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Joseph P wrote:
> I know what Nathan was saying, there Bill. I also know there are
> irresponsible people around here who have done it...trust me, the deer
> had no chance to try to run away. I repeat you are a closed minded
> individual who has no business trying to categorize me based upon a
> single statement. And I maintain the whole damn aircraft, thanks.
>
> http://home.nc.rr.com/jpribe/photo.htm
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#276
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Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
Bill categorizes everyone, but it only lasts until your next post.
Joseph P wrote:
> I know what Nathan was saying, there Bill. I also know there are
> irresponsible people around here who have done it...trust me, the deer
> had no chance to try to run away. I repeat you are a closed minded
> individual who has no business trying to categorize me based upon a
> single statement. And I maintain the whole damn aircraft, thanks.
>
> http://home.nc.rr.com/jpribe/photo.htm
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Joseph P wrote:
> I know what Nathan was saying, there Bill. I also know there are
> irresponsible people around here who have done it...trust me, the deer
> had no chance to try to run away. I repeat you are a closed minded
> individual who has no business trying to categorize me based upon a
> single statement. And I maintain the whole damn aircraft, thanks.
>
> http://home.nc.rr.com/jpribe/photo.htm
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
#277
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Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
Bill categorizes everyone, but it only lasts until your next post.
Joseph P wrote:
> I know what Nathan was saying, there Bill. I also know there are
> irresponsible people around here who have done it...trust me, the deer
> had no chance to try to run away. I repeat you are a closed minded
> individual who has no business trying to categorize me based upon a
> single statement. And I maintain the whole damn aircraft, thanks.
>
> http://home.nc.rr.com/jpribe/photo.htm
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Joseph P wrote:
> I know what Nathan was saying, there Bill. I also know there are
> irresponsible people around here who have done it...trust me, the deer
> had no chance to try to run away. I repeat you are a closed minded
> individual who has no business trying to categorize me based upon a
> single statement. And I maintain the whole damn aircraft, thanks.
>
> http://home.nc.rr.com/jpribe/photo.htm
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
#278
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Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
Barry Bean wrote:
> "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in news:Ag5cc.14927$w84.1170535
> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
>
>
>>Apparently all of you saw what you wanted to see in my post...take it
>>for what you will. But no one can tell me they honestly need a fully
>>automatic weapon for anything but mowing down gangbangers and the
>>Taliban.
>
>
> Nobody can tell you they "need" a jeep, air conditioning, or cable TV,
> either. But we don't criminalize those things, and they're not even
> guaranteed constitutional rights.
>
> Of course, I have to wonder why you'd even bother mentioning automatic
> weapons, which were made de facto illegal in the 1930s, and whose ownership
> is essentially limited to a handful of well to do hobbyists and collectors.
> What about the myriad of laws restricting handguns - an affordable means of
> self defense that many people feel they do need and can justify?
>
Anyone without a criminal record can buy class 3 weapons ( machine
guns ) . The permit is $200.00 per weapon. This is for anything from a
AK-47 .MP-5, UZI, Thompson 45 cal ,to a M60 , 50 cal , or anything in
between. You can also buy a silencer, but that is another $200.00. On
the application they ask your reason for buying the weapon, the correct
response is "collector".
About the cheapest you will find a "buzz gun" is $1800.00 for a 9mm , or
45cal MAC-10, this can dump a 30 round clip in 1.5 seconds.
What a surprise some home invaders woud get if they hit the wrong house.
> "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in news:Ag5cc.14927$w84.1170535
> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
>
>
>>Apparently all of you saw what you wanted to see in my post...take it
>>for what you will. But no one can tell me they honestly need a fully
>>automatic weapon for anything but mowing down gangbangers and the
>>Taliban.
>
>
> Nobody can tell you they "need" a jeep, air conditioning, or cable TV,
> either. But we don't criminalize those things, and they're not even
> guaranteed constitutional rights.
>
> Of course, I have to wonder why you'd even bother mentioning automatic
> weapons, which were made de facto illegal in the 1930s, and whose ownership
> is essentially limited to a handful of well to do hobbyists and collectors.
> What about the myriad of laws restricting handguns - an affordable means of
> self defense that many people feel they do need and can justify?
>
Anyone without a criminal record can buy class 3 weapons ( machine
guns ) . The permit is $200.00 per weapon. This is for anything from a
AK-47 .MP-5, UZI, Thompson 45 cal ,to a M60 , 50 cal , or anything in
between. You can also buy a silencer, but that is another $200.00. On
the application they ask your reason for buying the weapon, the correct
response is "collector".
About the cheapest you will find a "buzz gun" is $1800.00 for a 9mm , or
45cal MAC-10, this can dump a 30 round clip in 1.5 seconds.
What a surprise some home invaders woud get if they hit the wrong house.
#279
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Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
Barry Bean wrote:
> "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in news:Ag5cc.14927$w84.1170535
> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
>
>
>>Apparently all of you saw what you wanted to see in my post...take it
>>for what you will. But no one can tell me they honestly need a fully
>>automatic weapon for anything but mowing down gangbangers and the
>>Taliban.
>
>
> Nobody can tell you they "need" a jeep, air conditioning, or cable TV,
> either. But we don't criminalize those things, and they're not even
> guaranteed constitutional rights.
>
> Of course, I have to wonder why you'd even bother mentioning automatic
> weapons, which were made de facto illegal in the 1930s, and whose ownership
> is essentially limited to a handful of well to do hobbyists and collectors.
> What about the myriad of laws restricting handguns - an affordable means of
> self defense that many people feel they do need and can justify?
>
Anyone without a criminal record can buy class 3 weapons ( machine
guns ) . The permit is $200.00 per weapon. This is for anything from a
AK-47 .MP-5, UZI, Thompson 45 cal ,to a M60 , 50 cal , or anything in
between. You can also buy a silencer, but that is another $200.00. On
the application they ask your reason for buying the weapon, the correct
response is "collector".
About the cheapest you will find a "buzz gun" is $1800.00 for a 9mm , or
45cal MAC-10, this can dump a 30 round clip in 1.5 seconds.
What a surprise some home invaders woud get if they hit the wrong house.
> "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in news:Ag5cc.14927$w84.1170535
> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
>
>
>>Apparently all of you saw what you wanted to see in my post...take it
>>for what you will. But no one can tell me they honestly need a fully
>>automatic weapon for anything but mowing down gangbangers and the
>>Taliban.
>
>
> Nobody can tell you they "need" a jeep, air conditioning, or cable TV,
> either. But we don't criminalize those things, and they're not even
> guaranteed constitutional rights.
>
> Of course, I have to wonder why you'd even bother mentioning automatic
> weapons, which were made de facto illegal in the 1930s, and whose ownership
> is essentially limited to a handful of well to do hobbyists and collectors.
> What about the myriad of laws restricting handguns - an affordable means of
> self defense that many people feel they do need and can justify?
>
Anyone without a criminal record can buy class 3 weapons ( machine
guns ) . The permit is $200.00 per weapon. This is for anything from a
AK-47 .MP-5, UZI, Thompson 45 cal ,to a M60 , 50 cal , or anything in
between. You can also buy a silencer, but that is another $200.00. On
the application they ask your reason for buying the weapon, the correct
response is "collector".
About the cheapest you will find a "buzz gun" is $1800.00 for a 9mm , or
45cal MAC-10, this can dump a 30 round clip in 1.5 seconds.
What a surprise some home invaders woud get if they hit the wrong house.
#280
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Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
Barry Bean wrote:
> "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in news:Ag5cc.14927$w84.1170535
> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
>
>
>>Apparently all of you saw what you wanted to see in my post...take it
>>for what you will. But no one can tell me they honestly need a fully
>>automatic weapon for anything but mowing down gangbangers and the
>>Taliban.
>
>
> Nobody can tell you they "need" a jeep, air conditioning, or cable TV,
> either. But we don't criminalize those things, and they're not even
> guaranteed constitutional rights.
>
> Of course, I have to wonder why you'd even bother mentioning automatic
> weapons, which were made de facto illegal in the 1930s, and whose ownership
> is essentially limited to a handful of well to do hobbyists and collectors.
> What about the myriad of laws restricting handguns - an affordable means of
> self defense that many people feel they do need and can justify?
>
Anyone without a criminal record can buy class 3 weapons ( machine
guns ) . The permit is $200.00 per weapon. This is for anything from a
AK-47 .MP-5, UZI, Thompson 45 cal ,to a M60 , 50 cal , or anything in
between. You can also buy a silencer, but that is another $200.00. On
the application they ask your reason for buying the weapon, the correct
response is "collector".
About the cheapest you will find a "buzz gun" is $1800.00 for a 9mm , or
45cal MAC-10, this can dump a 30 round clip in 1.5 seconds.
What a surprise some home invaders woud get if they hit the wrong house.
> "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in news:Ag5cc.14927$w84.1170535
> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
>
>
>>Apparently all of you saw what you wanted to see in my post...take it
>>for what you will. But no one can tell me they honestly need a fully
>>automatic weapon for anything but mowing down gangbangers and the
>>Taliban.
>
>
> Nobody can tell you they "need" a jeep, air conditioning, or cable TV,
> either. But we don't criminalize those things, and they're not even
> guaranteed constitutional rights.
>
> Of course, I have to wonder why you'd even bother mentioning automatic
> weapons, which were made de facto illegal in the 1930s, and whose ownership
> is essentially limited to a handful of well to do hobbyists and collectors.
> What about the myriad of laws restricting handguns - an affordable means of
> self defense that many people feel they do need and can justify?
>
Anyone without a criminal record can buy class 3 weapons ( machine
guns ) . The permit is $200.00 per weapon. This is for anything from a
AK-47 .MP-5, UZI, Thompson 45 cal ,to a M60 , 50 cal , or anything in
between. You can also buy a silencer, but that is another $200.00. On
the application they ask your reason for buying the weapon, the correct
response is "collector".
About the cheapest you will find a "buzz gun" is $1800.00 for a 9mm , or
45cal MAC-10, this can dump a 30 round clip in 1.5 seconds.
What a surprise some home invaders woud get if they hit the wrong house.