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DougW 03-06-2004 04:36 PM

guess harmonic balancers don't last that long.
 
110,000 miles and this puppy is toast.
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/temp/hb-shot.jpg

I was having idle roughness, but cured most of it
by fixing minor vac leaks (broken hard plastic lines)

Now it looks like this is the next thing.

That and my rear drum shoes. Getting kinda thin.
Oh well. It's a nice sunny and mostly warm day.

--
DougW



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-06-2004 04:48 PM

Re: guess harmonic balancers don't last that long.
 
It had move forward rubbing your belt?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> 110,000 miles and this puppy is toast.
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/temp/hb-shot.jpg
>
> I was having idle roughness, but cured most of it
> by fixing minor vac leaks (broken hard plastic lines)
>
> Now it looks like this is the next thing.
>
> That and my rear drum shoes. Getting kinda thin.
> Oh well. It's a nice sunny and mostly warm day.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-06-2004 04:48 PM

Re: guess harmonic balancers don't last that long.
 
It had move forward rubbing your belt?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> 110,000 miles and this puppy is toast.
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/temp/hb-shot.jpg
>
> I was having idle roughness, but cured most of it
> by fixing minor vac leaks (broken hard plastic lines)
>
> Now it looks like this is the next thing.
>
> That and my rear drum shoes. Getting kinda thin.
> Oh well. It's a nice sunny and mostly warm day.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-06-2004 04:48 PM

Re: guess harmonic balancers don't last that long.
 
It had move forward rubbing your belt?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> 110,000 miles and this puppy is toast.
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/temp/hb-shot.jpg
>
> I was having idle roughness, but cured most of it
> by fixing minor vac leaks (broken hard plastic lines)
>
> Now it looks like this is the next thing.
>
> That and my rear drum shoes. Getting kinda thin.
> Oh well. It's a nice sunny and mostly warm day.
>
> --
> DougW


DougW 03-06-2004 05:02 PM

Re: guess harmonic balancers don't last that long.
 
L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> It had move forward rubbing your belt?


Could be. Can't tell for sure, the rubber is pooched out
so it's hard to get a straight-edge across it. I suspect
it has moved just enough to cause squeeks but not enough
to eat the belt edge. Thing is it only squeeks in high
humidity.

Any way, with those cracks and splits it can't be far from
going. Never replaced one of these before. Hope it can
be done without having to remove the radiator and move the AC
coil. Maby just lift the radiator up an inch or so.

My luck, it's going to be a real pain. Looks like I'll have
to drop the swaybar (no biggie) and possibly remove the fan

Found the part at NAPA for 46$ and a chrylerpartsdirect for
$55 (normally $68) Wonder if the dealership part is worth
the extra 9$?

Actually, wonder how much they would charge to do it for me
considering I don't have a puller. Could borrow one from
Autozone though. Oh well, got to replace the rear brake shoes
first, that's #1 on the list today.

> DougW wrote:
>>
>> 110,000 miles and this puppy is toast.
>> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/temp/hb-shot.jpg




DougW 03-06-2004 05:02 PM

Re: guess harmonic balancers don't last that long.
 
L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> It had move forward rubbing your belt?


Could be. Can't tell for sure, the rubber is pooched out
so it's hard to get a straight-edge across it. I suspect
it has moved just enough to cause squeeks but not enough
to eat the belt edge. Thing is it only squeeks in high
humidity.

Any way, with those cracks and splits it can't be far from
going. Never replaced one of these before. Hope it can
be done without having to remove the radiator and move the AC
coil. Maby just lift the radiator up an inch or so.

My luck, it's going to be a real pain. Looks like I'll have
to drop the swaybar (no biggie) and possibly remove the fan

Found the part at NAPA for 46$ and a chrylerpartsdirect for
$55 (normally $68) Wonder if the dealership part is worth
the extra 9$?

Actually, wonder how much they would charge to do it for me
considering I don't have a puller. Could borrow one from
Autozone though. Oh well, got to replace the rear brake shoes
first, that's #1 on the list today.

> DougW wrote:
>>
>> 110,000 miles and this puppy is toast.
>> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/temp/hb-shot.jpg




DougW 03-06-2004 05:02 PM

Re: guess harmonic balancers don't last that long.
 
L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> It had move forward rubbing your belt?


Could be. Can't tell for sure, the rubber is pooched out
so it's hard to get a straight-edge across it. I suspect
it has moved just enough to cause squeeks but not enough
to eat the belt edge. Thing is it only squeeks in high
humidity.

Any way, with those cracks and splits it can't be far from
going. Never replaced one of these before. Hope it can
be done without having to remove the radiator and move the AC
coil. Maby just lift the radiator up an inch or so.

My luck, it's going to be a real pain. Looks like I'll have
to drop the swaybar (no biggie) and possibly remove the fan

Found the part at NAPA for 46$ and a chrylerpartsdirect for
$55 (normally $68) Wonder if the dealership part is worth
the extra 9$?

Actually, wonder how much they would charge to do it for me
considering I don't have a puller. Could borrow one from
Autozone though. Oh well, got to replace the rear brake shoes
first, that's #1 on the list today.

> DougW wrote:
>>
>> 110,000 miles and this puppy is toast.
>> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/temp/hb-shot.jpg




Will Honea 03-06-2004 06:13 PM

Re: guess harmonic balancers don't last that long.
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:02:37 UTC "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address>
wrote:

> L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> > It had move forward rubbing your belt?

>
> Could be. Can't tell for sure, the rubber is pooched out
> so it's hard to get a straight-edge across it. I suspect
> it has moved just enough to cause squeeks but not enough
> to eat the belt edge. Thing is it only squeeks in high
> humidity.
>
> Any way, with those cracks and splits it can't be far from
> going. Never replaced one of these before. Hope it can
> be done without having to remove the radiator and move the AC
> coil. Maby just lift the radiator up an inch or so.
>
> My luck, it's going to be a real pain. Looks like I'll have
> to drop the swaybar (no biggie) and possibly remove the fan
>
> Found the part at NAPA for 46$ and a chrylerpartsdirect for
> $55 (normally $68) Wonder if the dealership part is worth
> the extra 9$?
>
> Actually, wonder how much they would charge to do it for me
> considering I don't have a puller. Could borrow one from
> Autozone though. Oh well, got to replace the rear brake shoes
> first, that's #1 on the list today.


On the XJ/MJ I was able to swap it out from the top. I used a $8-10
universal puller from Harbor Freight but it's tight enough on those
models that you're probably going to loose a little skin of your
knuckles as they get friendly with the radiator when you work with the
puller. One big problem: you will probably need some sort of a bar to
bolt onto the damper so that you can jam that against the frame while
you loosen/torque the bolt that holds it onto the crank. I couldn't
get the thing to hold well enough with the transmission in gear to
break it free. One of my manuals says you can jam a screw drive or
pry bar against 2 bolts in the puller holes - on the three I remember
doing, that just twisted the bolts up and was totally a waste of time.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Will Honea 03-06-2004 06:13 PM

Re: guess harmonic balancers don't last that long.
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:02:37 UTC "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address>
wrote:

> L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> > It had move forward rubbing your belt?

>
> Could be. Can't tell for sure, the rubber is pooched out
> so it's hard to get a straight-edge across it. I suspect
> it has moved just enough to cause squeeks but not enough
> to eat the belt edge. Thing is it only squeeks in high
> humidity.
>
> Any way, with those cracks and splits it can't be far from
> going. Never replaced one of these before. Hope it can
> be done without having to remove the radiator and move the AC
> coil. Maby just lift the radiator up an inch or so.
>
> My luck, it's going to be a real pain. Looks like I'll have
> to drop the swaybar (no biggie) and possibly remove the fan
>
> Found the part at NAPA for 46$ and a chrylerpartsdirect for
> $55 (normally $68) Wonder if the dealership part is worth
> the extra 9$?
>
> Actually, wonder how much they would charge to do it for me
> considering I don't have a puller. Could borrow one from
> Autozone though. Oh well, got to replace the rear brake shoes
> first, that's #1 on the list today.


On the XJ/MJ I was able to swap it out from the top. I used a $8-10
universal puller from Harbor Freight but it's tight enough on those
models that you're probably going to loose a little skin of your
knuckles as they get friendly with the radiator when you work with the
puller. One big problem: you will probably need some sort of a bar to
bolt onto the damper so that you can jam that against the frame while
you loosen/torque the bolt that holds it onto the crank. I couldn't
get the thing to hold well enough with the transmission in gear to
break it free. One of my manuals says you can jam a screw drive or
pry bar against 2 bolts in the puller holes - on the three I remember
doing, that just twisted the bolts up and was totally a waste of time.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Will Honea 03-06-2004 06:13 PM

Re: guess harmonic balancers don't last that long.
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:02:37 UTC "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address>
wrote:

> L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> > It had move forward rubbing your belt?

>
> Could be. Can't tell for sure, the rubber is pooched out
> so it's hard to get a straight-edge across it. I suspect
> it has moved just enough to cause squeeks but not enough
> to eat the belt edge. Thing is it only squeeks in high
> humidity.
>
> Any way, with those cracks and splits it can't be far from
> going. Never replaced one of these before. Hope it can
> be done without having to remove the radiator and move the AC
> coil. Maby just lift the radiator up an inch or so.
>
> My luck, it's going to be a real pain. Looks like I'll have
> to drop the swaybar (no biggie) and possibly remove the fan
>
> Found the part at NAPA for 46$ and a chrylerpartsdirect for
> $55 (normally $68) Wonder if the dealership part is worth
> the extra 9$?
>
> Actually, wonder how much they would charge to do it for me
> considering I don't have a puller. Could borrow one from
> Autozone though. Oh well, got to replace the rear brake shoes
> first, that's #1 on the list today.


On the XJ/MJ I was able to swap it out from the top. I used a $8-10
universal puller from Harbor Freight but it's tight enough on those
models that you're probably going to loose a little skin of your
knuckles as they get friendly with the radiator when you work with the
puller. One big problem: you will probably need some sort of a bar to
bolt onto the damper so that you can jam that against the frame while
you loosen/torque the bolt that holds it onto the crank. I couldn't
get the thing to hold well enough with the transmission in gear to
break it free. One of my manuals says you can jam a screw drive or
pry bar against 2 bolts in the puller holes - on the three I remember
doing, that just twisted the bolts up and was totally a waste of time.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>


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