Refinish King

A clearer definition of flat rate:

If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
time.

Guess what? you fix it for free!

So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
working on your car!

Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
or butchers on flat rate!

The End.

Refinish King


"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> >
> >
> > mic canic wrote:
> >
> > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
time
> >
> > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> >
> > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > the second time.....
> >
> > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > hours anyway
> >
> > Johan
> >
>
> Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.

Refinish King

A clearer definition of flat rate:

If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
time.

Guess what? you fix it for free!

So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
working on your car!

Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
or butchers on flat rate!

The End.

Refinish King


"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> >
> >
> > mic canic wrote:
> >
> > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
time
> >
> > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> >
> > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > the second time.....
> >
> > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > hours anyway
> >
> > Johan
> >
>
> Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.

Refinish King

A clearer definition of flat rate:

If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
time.

Guess what? you fix it for free!

So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
working on your car!

Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
or butchers on flat rate!

The End.

Refinish King


"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> >
> >
> > mic canic wrote:
> >
> > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
time
> >
> > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> >
> > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > the second time.....
> >
> > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > hours anyway
> >
> > Johan
> >
>
> Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.

Dave

And using the same thought, if it is an hourly rate you will still fix it
for free since you screwed it up the first time. But then with the flat
rate, if you charge for 4 hours and only take 2 hours, then you are ahead of
the game. Unless, if doing it hourly, you lie and say it took longer. But
doing this you will run out of customers fast. Flat rate are charged for a
reason. Very few people want to pay by the hour. You could make a 2 hour job
last for days.
"Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com> wrote in message
news:xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com...
> A clearer definition of flat rate:
>
> If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
arbitrary
> figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
> back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
warranty
> time.
>
> Guess what? you fix it for free!
>
> So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
want
> working on your car!
>
> Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
> or butchers on flat rate!
>
> The End.
>
> Refinish King
>
>
> "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > >
> > >
> > > mic canic wrote:
> > >
> > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
> time
> > >
> > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > >
> > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > > the second time.....
> > >
> > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > > hours anyway
> > >
> > > Johan
> > >
> >
> > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > --
> > ____________________
> > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
>
>
>

Dave

And using the same thought, if it is an hourly rate you will still fix it
for free since you screwed it up the first time. But then with the flat
rate, if you charge for 4 hours and only take 2 hours, then you are ahead of
the game. Unless, if doing it hourly, you lie and say it took longer. But
doing this you will run out of customers fast. Flat rate are charged for a
reason. Very few people want to pay by the hour. You could make a 2 hour job
last for days.
"Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com> wrote in message
news:xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com...
> A clearer definition of flat rate:
>
> If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
arbitrary
> figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
> back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
warranty
> time.
>
> Guess what? you fix it for free!
>
> So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
want
> working on your car!
>
> Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
> or butchers on flat rate!
>
> The End.
>
> Refinish King
>
>
> "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > >
> > >
> > > mic canic wrote:
> > >
> > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
> time
> > >
> > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > >
> > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > > the second time.....
> > >
> > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > > hours anyway
> > >
> > > Johan
> > >
> >
> > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > --
> > ____________________
> > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
>
>
>

Dave

And using the same thought, if it is an hourly rate you will still fix it
for free since you screwed it up the first time. But then with the flat
rate, if you charge for 4 hours and only take 2 hours, then you are ahead of
the game. Unless, if doing it hourly, you lie and say it took longer. But
doing this you will run out of customers fast. Flat rate are charged for a
reason. Very few people want to pay by the hour. You could make a 2 hour job
last for days.
"Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com> wrote in message
news:xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com...
> A clearer definition of flat rate:
>
> If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
arbitrary
> figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
> back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
warranty
> time.
>
> Guess what? you fix it for free!
>
> So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
want
> working on your car!
>
> Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
> or butchers on flat rate!
>
> The End.
>
> Refinish King
>
>
> "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > >
> > >
> > > mic canic wrote:
> > >
> > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
> time
> > >
> > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > >
> > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > > the second time.....
> > >
> > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > > hours anyway
> > >
> > > Johan
> > >
> >
> > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > --
> > ____________________
> > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
>
>
>

Dave

And using the same thought, if it is an hourly rate you will still fix it
for free since you screwed it up the first time. But then with the flat
rate, if you charge for 4 hours and only take 2 hours, then you are ahead of
the game. Unless, if doing it hourly, you lie and say it took longer. But
doing this you will run out of customers fast. Flat rate are charged for a
reason. Very few people want to pay by the hour. You could make a 2 hour job
last for days.
"Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com> wrote in message
news:xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com...
> A clearer definition of flat rate:
>
> If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
arbitrary
> figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
> back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
warranty
> time.
>
> Guess what? you fix it for free!
>
> So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
want
> working on your car!
>
> Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
> or butchers on flat rate!
>
> The End.
>
> Refinish King
>
>
> "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > >
> > >
> > > mic canic wrote:
> > >
> > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
> time
> > >
> > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > >
> > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > > the second time.....
> > >
> > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > > hours anyway
> > >
> > > Johan
> > >
> >
> > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > --
> > ____________________
> > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
>
>
>

Refinish King

Flat rate books were written for a reason:

to give technicians an estimated time that it would require to do the job.

If a technician is proficient, and beats it. Should he be penalized?

The customer asks how much?

The customer is told 4 hours at $50.00.

If it takes 10 hours, the customer gets to slide, but if the job goes well.
The business owner gets dorked?

Where's the incentive to be in business?

You must be a trolling customer, who wants it all, a guarantee that he will
get it cheap, and none of the things that can go wrong on the job. Flat
rate, you win some and lose some!

Refinish King


"Dave" <dbs58@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a8mdnU_GPMvJp3fdRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> And using the same thought, if it is an hourly rate you will still fix it
> for free since you screwed it up the first time. But then with the flat
> rate, if you charge for 4 hours and only take 2 hours, then you are ahead
of
> the game. Unless, if doing it hourly, you lie and say it took longer. But
> doing this you will run out of customers fast. Flat rate are charged for a
> reason. Very few people want to pay by the hour. You could make a 2 hour
job
> last for days.
> "Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com> wrote in message
> news:xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com...
> > A clearer definition of flat rate:
> >
> > If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
> arbitrary
> > figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it
comes
> > back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
> warranty
> > time.
> >
> > Guess what? you fix it for free!
> >
> > So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
> want
> > working on your car!
> >
> > Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced
technicians
> > or butchers on flat rate!
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Refinish King
> >
> >
> > "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > mic canic wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars
first
> > time
> > > >
> > > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > > >
> > > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for
free
> > > > the second time.....
> > > >
> > > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your
8
> > > > hours anyway
> > > >
> > > > Johan
> > > >
> > >
> > > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > > --
> > > ____________________
> > > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Refinish King

Flat rate books were written for a reason:

to give technicians an estimated time that it would require to do the job.

If a technician is proficient, and beats it. Should he be penalized?

The customer asks how much?

The customer is told 4 hours at $50.00.

If it takes 10 hours, the customer gets to slide, but if the job goes well.
The business owner gets dorked?

Where's the incentive to be in business?

You must be a trolling customer, who wants it all, a guarantee that he will
get it cheap, and none of the things that can go wrong on the job. Flat
rate, you win some and lose some!

Refinish King


"Dave" <dbs58@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a8mdnU_GPMvJp3fdRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> And using the same thought, if it is an hourly rate you will still fix it
> for free since you screwed it up the first time. But then with the flat
> rate, if you charge for 4 hours and only take 2 hours, then you are ahead
of
> the game. Unless, if doing it hourly, you lie and say it took longer. But
> doing this you will run out of customers fast. Flat rate are charged for a
> reason. Very few people want to pay by the hour. You could make a 2 hour
job
> last for days.
> "Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com> wrote in message
> news:xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com...
> > A clearer definition of flat rate:
> >
> > If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
> arbitrary
> > figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it
comes
> > back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
> warranty
> > time.
> >
> > Guess what? you fix it for free!
> >
> > So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
> want
> > working on your car!
> >
> > Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced
technicians
> > or butchers on flat rate!
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Refinish King
> >
> >
> > "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > mic canic wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars
first
> > time
> > > >
> > > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > > >
> > > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for
free
> > > > the second time.....
> > > >
> > > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your
8
> > > > hours anyway
> > > >
> > > > Johan
> > > >
> > >
> > > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > > --
> > > ____________________
> > > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Refinish King

Flat rate books were written for a reason:

to give technicians an estimated time that it would require to do the job.

If a technician is proficient, and beats it. Should he be penalized?

The customer asks how much?

The customer is told 4 hours at $50.00.

If it takes 10 hours, the customer gets to slide, but if the job goes well.
The business owner gets dorked?

Where's the incentive to be in business?

You must be a trolling customer, who wants it all, a guarantee that he will
get it cheap, and none of the things that can go wrong on the job. Flat
rate, you win some and lose some!

Refinish King


"Dave" <dbs58@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a8mdnU_GPMvJp3fdRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> And using the same thought, if it is an hourly rate you will still fix it
> for free since you screwed it up the first time. But then with the flat
> rate, if you charge for 4 hours and only take 2 hours, then you are ahead
of
> the game. Unless, if doing it hourly, you lie and say it took longer. But
> doing this you will run out of customers fast. Flat rate are charged for a
> reason. Very few people want to pay by the hour. You could make a 2 hour
job
> last for days.
> "Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com> wrote in message
> news:xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com...
> > A clearer definition of flat rate:
> >
> > If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
> arbitrary
> > figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it
comes
> > back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
> warranty
> > time.
> >
> > Guess what? you fix it for free!
> >
> > So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
> want
> > working on your car!
> >
> > Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced
technicians
> > or butchers on flat rate!
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Refinish King
> >
> >
> > "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > mic canic wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars
first
> > time
> > > >
> > > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > > >
> > > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for
free
> > > > the second time.....
> > > >
> > > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your
8
> > > > hours anyway
> > > >
> > > > Johan
> > > >
> > >
> > > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > > --
> > > ____________________
> > > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
> >
> >
> >
>
>