hmm lets see 108 a hour at 40 hours a week comes to 4320.00 a week now deduct
24 a hour the tech makes turning 40 hrs thats 960.00 weeks
equals
========

$3360.00 dealer takes
and now you can see what kind or money is taken out of your pockets
now times that by 7 techs and you get $23.520.00 for a week and thats at 40
hrs
now the dealer wants you to turn 50 to 60 hr. and i'll let you do the math
come to the end of the month it comes to 94,040.00 now tell me who is the
rip-off artist
now these figures do not include what the crafty service write comes up with
and add the chemical fee, the deposal fee for oil. which is usually taken by a
recycler for free, or the dealer gets paid a few bucs for
mike u really need to get it! what you think you see going on is really 180
degrees of what actually does occur and why

JohanB wrote:

> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
> Johan
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >

 

mic canic wrote:
> we mechanics need your help to change the system! it is exactly like jerry
> describes and thats were the problem lies and you the customers loses
> when i worked in a dealer that paid me hourly, no flat rate i would only have 2
> -3 comebacs a year and all the cars went out fixed no matter what!
> now i'm flat rate and could care less i,m forced to work fast and turn hours
> regardless of the satisfaction of you the customer and my boss has warned me
> turn hours or get fired! i have to work within the system i'm given
> help change the system


You dont have to change the system, just your additute about having
pride in your work instead being a gravy sucking pig.

I "only" flag 10-12 hours a day and make a good living out off it and
hardly have any comebacks.

johan

 

mic canic wrote:
> we mechanics need your help to change the system! it is exactly like jerry
> describes and thats were the problem lies and you the customers loses
> when i worked in a dealer that paid me hourly, no flat rate i would only have 2
> -3 comebacs a year and all the cars went out fixed no matter what!
> now i'm flat rate and could care less i,m forced to work fast and turn hours
> regardless of the satisfaction of you the customer and my boss has warned me
> turn hours or get fired! i have to work within the system i'm given
> help change the system


You dont have to change the system, just your additute about having
pride in your work instead being a gravy sucking pig.

I "only" flag 10-12 hours a day and make a good living out off it and
hardly have any comebacks.

johan

 

mic canic wrote:
> we mechanics need your help to change the system! it is exactly like jerry
> describes and thats were the problem lies and you the customers loses
> when i worked in a dealer that paid me hourly, no flat rate i would only have 2
> -3 comebacs a year and all the cars went out fixed no matter what!
> now i'm flat rate and could care less i,m forced to work fast and turn hours
> regardless of the satisfaction of you the customer and my boss has warned me
> turn hours or get fired! i have to work within the system i'm given
> help change the system


You dont have to change the system, just your additute about having
pride in your work instead being a gravy sucking pig.

I "only" flag 10-12 hours a day and make a good living out off it and
hardly have any comebacks.

johan

 

mic canic wrote:
> we mechanics need your help to change the system! it is exactly like jerry
> describes and thats were the problem lies and you the customers loses
> when i worked in a dealer that paid me hourly, no flat rate i would only have 2
> -3 comebacs a year and all the cars went out fixed no matter what!
> now i'm flat rate and could care less i,m forced to work fast and turn hours
> regardless of the satisfaction of you the customer and my boss has warned me
> turn hours or get fired! i have to work within the system i'm given
> help change the system


You dont have to change the system, just your additute about having
pride in your work instead being a gravy sucking pig.

I "only" flag 10-12 hours a day and make a good living out off it and
hardly have any comebacks.

johan

 

$400 for a brake job? Wow. If it wasn't for all that overhead, you could do
one brake job and then knock off for the day. How do people afford that?

"JohanB" <johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VNCFc.3772$R36.2669@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
>
> Johan
>
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >

 

$400 for a brake job? Wow. If it wasn't for all that overhead, you could do
one brake job and then knock off for the day. How do people afford that?

"JohanB" <johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VNCFc.3772$R36.2669@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
>
> Johan
>
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >

 

$400 for a brake job? Wow. If it wasn't for all that overhead, you could do
one brake job and then knock off for the day. How do people afford that?

"JohanB" <johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VNCFc.3772$R36.2669@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
>
> Johan
>
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >

 

$400 for a brake job? Wow. If it wasn't for all that overhead, you could do
one brake job and then knock off for the day. How do people afford that?

"JohanB" <johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VNCFc.3772$R36.2669@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
>
> Johan
>
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >

 

That's when you really get a handle on a business, is when you
learn to turn down jobs rather than expand and hire more employees.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Will Honea wrote:
>
> And worth a few bucks extra after waiting for an appointment! Friend
> of mine opened a garage to help support his stock car "hobby" several
> years back. Now, it takes a week to get into a bay in the shop and he
> tells you right up front that he will cost you more than some places
> because he does the job the way he thinks it needs to be done or he
> doesn't do it at all. Funny thing is, it's far more common to hear
> this guy tell a customer that he really doesn't need the extra work
> than it is to hear him try to sell something on top of the actual
> repair. Maybe that's why every couple of years he adds another bay
> (and doesn't have time for stock car racing anymore). His is the only
> shop that puts a wrench on my vehicles unless he sends me to a
> specialty shop HE recommends.
>
> --
> Will Honea