GM steering column?
08-15-2004, 01:47 PM
#41
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Re: GM steering column?
The column comes apart just at the firewall. There is a clamp on the
engine side at the firewall with a spline fitting you undo and a few
bolts on the inside plate.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
wkearney99 wrote:
>
> > He shouldn't even need the entire column, just the plastic parts above the
> > dash and the metal tube that extends through the firewall. It all
> > disassembles from the top end and, if I recall correctly, there's just a
> > couple of machine screws down there below the signal switch holding it
> > together.
>
> I sorta figured it'd be easier to replace the thing in it's entirety instead of
> trying to mix-match the pieces. I could be wrong. Drop the support bolts,
> release the steering box end, pull the whole thing and put in another. Not sure
> how to separate just that portion, let alone find the right one to mate up to
> it.
>
> The tilt mechanism, the lower part of the column and the wheel itself work fine.
> It's the casing in-between the wheel and the tilt that's destroyed. It's not
> just a sleeve, it's a whole cast assembly. Enough of it's broken to require
> replacing all of that portion. The lock cylinder is fine but since it's only
> one key (GM-sourced units had a door key and a separate ignition) it'd be no
> trouble to use a new one.
>
> > wkearney: I'll bet a black steering column wouldn't look bad in a maroon
> > interior and Krylon's "Fusion" paint for plastic works well on plastic
> > steering column parts. If you can live with a black column you can grab
> > the next one you see that has the features you want.
>
> Yes, I think this is what I'll do.
>
> > Oh, and consider replacing the signal light switch while you've got it
> > apart. You'll hate yourself if you have to take it apart again in 6
> > months.
>
> I already have to replace the stalk, they demolished it during the theft. I've
> just thumbed the signal actuator manually and used another switch for the
> wipers. Yes, this was the lazy-mans approach.
>
> -Bill Kearney
engine side at the firewall with a spline fitting you undo and a few
bolts on the inside plate.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
wkearney99 wrote:
>
> > He shouldn't even need the entire column, just the plastic parts above the
> > dash and the metal tube that extends through the firewall. It all
> > disassembles from the top end and, if I recall correctly, there's just a
> > couple of machine screws down there below the signal switch holding it
> > together.
>
> I sorta figured it'd be easier to replace the thing in it's entirety instead of
> trying to mix-match the pieces. I could be wrong. Drop the support bolts,
> release the steering box end, pull the whole thing and put in another. Not sure
> how to separate just that portion, let alone find the right one to mate up to
> it.
>
> The tilt mechanism, the lower part of the column and the wheel itself work fine.
> It's the casing in-between the wheel and the tilt that's destroyed. It's not
> just a sleeve, it's a whole cast assembly. Enough of it's broken to require
> replacing all of that portion. The lock cylinder is fine but since it's only
> one key (GM-sourced units had a door key and a separate ignition) it'd be no
> trouble to use a new one.
>
> > wkearney: I'll bet a black steering column wouldn't look bad in a maroon
> > interior and Krylon's "Fusion" paint for plastic works well on plastic
> > steering column parts. If you can live with a black column you can grab
> > the next one you see that has the features you want.
>
> Yes, I think this is what I'll do.
>
> > Oh, and consider replacing the signal light switch while you've got it
> > apart. You'll hate yourself if you have to take it apart again in 6
> > months.
>
> I already have to replace the stalk, they demolished it during the theft. I've
> just thumbed the signal actuator manually and used another switch for the
> wipers. Yes, this was the lazy-mans approach.
>
> -Bill Kearney
08-16-2004, 09:04 PM
#42
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Re: GM steering column?
it's dam near identical to a 85 s10 blazer colum
wkearney99 wrote:
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
wkearney99 wrote:
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
08-16-2004, 09:04 PM
#43
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Re: GM steering column?
it's dam near identical to a 85 s10 blazer colum
wkearney99 wrote:
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
wkearney99 wrote:
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
08-16-2004, 09:04 PM
#44
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Re: GM steering column?
it's dam near identical to a 85 s10 blazer colum
wkearney99 wrote:
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
wkearney99 wrote:
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
08-16-2004, 09:04 PM
#45
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Re: GM steering column?
it's dam near identical to a 85 s10 blazer colum
wkearney99 wrote:
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
wkearney99 wrote:
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
08-17-2004, 01:02 AM
#46
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Re: GM steering column?
Try this link. They aren't too far from you. I just used them recently for a
rebuilt unit. painted to order. Great service and fast too.
http://columnsgalore.com/rebuilt.htm
"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JoCdnb3F1Nojh4DcRVn-oQ@speakeasy.net...
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief
destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's
about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys
and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has
tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't
care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
>
rebuilt unit. painted to order. Great service and fast too.
http://columnsgalore.com/rebuilt.htm
"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JoCdnb3F1Nojh4DcRVn-oQ@speakeasy.net...
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief
destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's
about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys
and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has
tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't
care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
>
08-17-2004, 01:02 AM
#47
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Re: GM steering column?
Try this link. They aren't too far from you. I just used them recently for a
rebuilt unit. painted to order. Great service and fast too.
http://columnsgalore.com/rebuilt.htm
"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JoCdnb3F1Nojh4DcRVn-oQ@speakeasy.net...
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief
destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's
about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys
and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has
tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't
care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
>
rebuilt unit. painted to order. Great service and fast too.
http://columnsgalore.com/rebuilt.htm
"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JoCdnb3F1Nojh4DcRVn-oQ@speakeasy.net...
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief
destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's
about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys
and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has
tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't
care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
>
08-17-2004, 01:02 AM
#48
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Posts: n/a
Re: GM steering column?
Try this link. They aren't too far from you. I just used them recently for a
rebuilt unit. painted to order. Great service and fast too.
http://columnsgalore.com/rebuilt.htm
"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JoCdnb3F1Nojh4DcRVn-oQ@speakeasy.net...
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief
destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's
about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys
and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has
tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't
care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
>
rebuilt unit. painted to order. Great service and fast too.
http://columnsgalore.com/rebuilt.htm
"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JoCdnb3F1Nojh4DcRVn-oQ@speakeasy.net...
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief
destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's
about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys
and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has
tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't
care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
>
08-17-2004, 01:02 AM
#49
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Posts: n/a
Re: GM steering column?
Try this link. They aren't too far from you. I just used them recently for a
rebuilt unit. painted to order. Great service and fast too.
http://columnsgalore.com/rebuilt.htm
"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JoCdnb3F1Nojh4DcRVn-oQ@speakeasy.net...
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief
destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's
about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys
and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has
tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't
care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
>
rebuilt unit. painted to order. Great service and fast too.
http://columnsgalore.com/rebuilt.htm
"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JoCdnb3F1Nojh4DcRVn-oQ@speakeasy.net...
> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief
destroying the
> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's
about
> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys
and
> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>
> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has
tilt and
> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't
care
> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>
> I'm near Washington DC.
>
> -Bill Kearney
>
08-17-2004, 07:32 PM
#50
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Re: GM steering column?
Well, depending on your insistance on having stuff look good, you can just
replace the broken part. It costs about 10 bucks.
You need a part called a Lock Rack, or something close to that. It is
available from a company that brands its products HELP. These products are
typically in a red blister pack. In any case, the sliding part you need is
available. It connects to a rod that goes to the Ignition Switch that is
mounted on the side of the steering column, down near the brake pedal.
"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > It is GM similar to this:
> > http://autorepair.about.com/cs/doity...lt_wheel02.htm Maybe,
> > you could still pull the bolt the held the old lock and replace it as
> > Jeff suggests, on the seventh page:
>
> The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire
left
> side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The
key
> still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus
this
> is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt
mechanism.
> It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
>
> -Bill
>
replace the broken part. It costs about 10 bucks.
You need a part called a Lock Rack, or something close to that. It is
available from a company that brands its products HELP. These products are
typically in a red blister pack. In any case, the sliding part you need is
available. It connects to a rod that goes to the Ignition Switch that is
mounted on the side of the steering column, down near the brake pedal.
"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:wrKdnVdI08hBnIPcRVn-hg@speakeasy.net...
> > It is GM similar to this:
> > http://autorepair.about.com/cs/doity...lt_wheel02.htm Maybe,
> > you could still pull the bolt the held the old lock and replace it as
> > Jeff suggests, on the seventh page:
>
> The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire
left
> side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The
key
> still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus
this
> is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt
mechanism.
> It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
>
> -Bill
>